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barralad
February 9, 2019, 1:05pm
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Couldn't the trust do something about trying to buy those shares or atleast a portion of those shares back? atleast ask JF how much he would want and then set about wit a plan on how to raise that money.


If the Trust wanted to go down the route of buying shares we wouldn't need to ask J.F. to sell us any of his.
With respect Aaron you've made your views on how bad you think the Trust is very clear on here. Perhaps if you actually joined it would a. Be easier to get your view across from within and B. Your membership fee would help boost our coffers.


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February 9, 2019, 1:37pm
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If the Trust wanted to go down the route of buying shares we wouldn't need to ask J.F. to sell us any of his.
With respect Aaron you've made your views on how bad you think the Trust is very clear on here. Perhaps if you actually joined it would a. Be easier to get your view across from within and B. Your membership fee would help boost our coffers.


I just don't think they have much say really in the club at all, as others have mentioned on this thread and other threads the board see the trust as a hindrance rather than a help, like Fenty saying Operation Promotion was the worst thing ever to happen when several people worked really hard put in loads of hours for that only not to be unappreciated by Fenty and the board, The checkatrade trophy where the trust were not consulted. The meeting about Russell Slade when Jon Wood passionately put across why he thought Slade should have been sacked but he was not listened too because the decision was already made before he had chance to have a say.

That is why I am not a member because I think the trust do work very hard and try their best but the club board don't exactly take them seriously. I will be impressed if the trust publicly back the new stadium drawings on Freeman Street in an attempt to try and force the clubs hand.

I think the trust are at a crossroads and need to go in a new direction, which direction that is I do not know and before people tell me to join the trust board I do not have relevant skills or experience to do that although I am good at Administrative Duties but I think it takes more than just admin skills to make a difference.
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It was over 7 years ago but I genuinely cannot remember discussing endorsement of either side. As I've said the Trust Board at that time were very split on the best way forward.


I spoke to a board member at the time and he suggested to me that the members should vote to hand over the shares but I don't know what the other board members suggested if they did.
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February 9, 2019, 5:18pm
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I just don't think they have much say really in the club at all, as others have mentioned on this thread and other threads the board see the trust as a hindrance rather than a help, like Fenty saying Operation Promotion was the worst thing ever to happen when several people worked really hard put in loads of hours for that only not to be unappreciated by Fenty and the board, The checkatrade trophy where the trust were not consulted. The meeting about Russell Slade when Jon Wood passionately put across why he thought Slade should have been sacked but he was not listened too because the decision was already made before he had chance to have a say.

That is why I am not a member because I think the trust do work very hard and try their best but the club board don't exactly take them seriously. I will be impressed if the trust publicly back the new stadium drawings on Freeman Street in an attempt to try and force the clubs hand.

I think the trust are at a crossroads and need to go in a new direction, which direction that is I do not know and before people tell me to join the trust board I do not have relevant skills or experience to do that although I am good at Administrative Duties but I think it takes more than just admin skills to make a difference.


Hey Aaron, don't you think if more people joined we'd have more influence? The way to respond to a defeat or knock back isn't to give up, which is effectively what you're doing, but re-double your efforts snd work to make your side better. The Trust, and therefore the supporters, will never have influence if they don't join together.

I agree, the Trust needs to go in a new direction. t the moment it doesn't feel equipped or willing to take over the club or a more leading role. It needs more people with a radical vision.

Everyone's efforts count. Plenty of people want to be chiefs, but I bet more Indians would be welcome. You can make a difference.


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Hey Aaron, don't you think if more people joined we'd have more influence? The way to respond to a defeat or knock back isn't to give up, which is effectively what you're doing, but re-double your efforts snd work to make your side better. The Trust, and therefore the supporters, will never have influence if they don't join together.

I agree, the Trust needs to go in a new direction. t the moment it doesn't feel equipped or willing to take over the club or a more leading role. It needs more people with a radical vision.

Everyone's efforts count. Plenty of people want to be chiefs, but I bet more Indians would be welcome. You can make a difference.


What you doing on here? Shouldn't you be on your nuptials?
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Maybe the Trust should conduct a survey and act on the results
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February 9, 2019, 5:56pm
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I spoke to a board member at the time and he suggested to me that the members should vote to hand over the shares but I don't know what the other board members suggested if they did.


Fair comment. I think there may have been individuals advocating either option. I'm not sure that it was formalised into an official position. The whole business cost us the services of a couple of board members who would have had a great deal to offer


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What you doing on here? Shouldn't you be on your nuptials?


Well, when you've been together as long as we have I wasn't expecting to be taking advantage of my full rights of access. Small do only immediate family. Low maintenance wife.


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