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Meza
January 24, 2019, 1:12pm

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Why Feb... Why not end of the season.  I just hope nothing negative like last time occurs and impacts the current positivity.


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January 24, 2019, 1:25pm
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I think we as fan`s are duty bound to try and attend this meeting and get the point across not only do we care but many of us genuinely want to help. Just my own personal opinion and I would like JF to answer why this can`t work. In my opinion GTFC need to relocate and I think the best area for relocation is Freemo/Docks area . My reasoning behind this is I want to see the Town of Grimsby being put first and the football club benefitting as a result. Freeman St is the historic heart of the town it`s dead the area run down a Community Stadium built here would revive many pubs and buisnesses in that area and give it some pride back. JF may well argue that`s not in the best interests of the football club and he is more qualified than I to get that point over in terms of finance etc. The problem he has is wether he likes it or not a significant amount of fan`s like myself whilst happy to relocate anywhere in essence now actually want the ground Freemo/Docks . The fan`s stadium view on here with the iconic dock tower in the background is what we should strive for it`s what John Fenty should strive for because that is a legacy and one that will be remembered . Can people change his mind by getting this point across on the night I have no idea but I am willing to try and in the unlikely event that actually happens what then? The fan`s have the power to call Oxby et al out and tell them you said we could have a ground we want it the club want it BUILD IT.
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January 24, 2019, 1:31pm
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It would be nice to see Mr Fenty come to the meeting with a plan for the future of GTFC that the fans could all buy into and get behind but, as on so many previous occasions, it’s more likely to be a justification of the past and maybe the present.
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January 24, 2019, 1:37pm

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I think personally I'd like to see JF look at the bigger picture here and think about the town and not his self interest.  After all he wants out.


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January 24, 2019, 1:42pm

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I probably will go along but my concern is that people become irrational during times of turbulence and uncertainty, I feel that maybe JSF has opened himself for more abuse and no-one should put themselves in that situation..


For what it’s worth, I don’t think anyone has ever gone to one of these events with the aim of abusing Fenty, nor can I ever remember it happening. Most of the fallout comes afterwards when fans feel they’ve been fobbed off with politicians answers, lied to or disrespected.

There should be no issue that a fan brings to the meeting that should catch Fenty cold - all the questions we have are the ones he should be asking himself every day. How are they going to get more fans through the door, what’s the long-term strategy (i.e. when’s he off), what’s happening with relocation?

I’d like to see it structured slightly better than a general Q&A, perhaps some questions submitted in advance giving the Trust and Fenty the chance to answer properly, before an open question session in the second half. We know Fenty bullshits & blusters when he’s caught out so it’d be handy to give him the opportunity to answer properly rather than just dismiss questions he’s not expecting.

I just hope it doesn’t end up with the usual “how long is Joe Bloggs’ contract”, “why aren’t we playing 4-4-2”, “my bovril’s cold” type stuff.
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I don't have to bow down to you and write my questions on here. I'll ask what I like and post on here if I feel they are relevant. People at the event will know. And why is it your business? Why is it anything to do with you? Why are you so het up about my thoughts? I dont push my opinions on others the way you and so many others do. I comment when I please. And as for being like an annoying wasp my sting is far worse!!


You jump on everyone on here but never have the courage of your convictions to write down an alternative debating point. FFS if a forum isn't about writing opinions then I don't know what the word forum means. You're an associate of John's who thinks it's more important to dilute fans actual feelings by red crossing away in blind defence of him rather than accepting the grave concerns the fans have about how the club has been left behind or the lack of vision for the future. As soon as John gets crticised, you and others who never post about the footy are like a swarm of bees who don't want to listen but prefer to try and skew the level of concern. Which when running a business the only thing that matters is addressing criticism and concerns for that business to grow and prosper. It just goes to show the small time way that the club is being run by infiltrating the prime source of fan feedback. There'll be a concerted effort into trying to get as many JF associates in the room again and monopolise with easy questions and loud clapping. What good is that for the future of the club? It's eighteen years now of the worst sustained period in the club's history and we're still not on the starting line when it comes to future investment and infrastructure because there's absolutely no personal responsibility taken for it at board level. Good on the Trust for setting this up, good on JF for accepting, but in reality, who thinks we'll all be on here talking about the same shortcomings off the pitch in one, three and five years time? Just another occasion when JF will come out with all the excuses to justify himself and fans will go weak at the knees because they're not used to speaking in public and be a little bit fascinated into the inner workings of insignificant parts of the club that have no bearing on its future. It would be good if there was some way that the Trust could find a suitable way for the questions to be pre-agreed with the fans by way of voting for them rather than time wasted on irrelevencies that have no bearing on the great mid and long term challenges that face the club..

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Oh dear. Oh dear indeed Bigdog. It seems that you think you have the answers to everything! Running a football club is not the same as running a retail outlet for example. If it all goes wrong you can't just up sticks and leave. The club is run very well behind the scenes. I'm more concerned with what's happening on the green stuff.
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January 24, 2019, 2:18pm
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Oh dear. Oh dear indeed Bigdog. It seems that you think you have the answers to everything! Running a football club is not the same as running a retail outlet for example. If it all goes wrong you can't just up sticks and leave. The club is run very well behind the scenes. I'm more concerned with what's happening on the green stuff.


Most fans are they just want to see a winning team. Trouble is when you`ve actually witnessed a winning team at Championship level you can`t understand why in 18 year`s 6 were then spent non league and 11 of the remaining 12 league 2?
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So is it only Mr Fenty on the stage of are other directors and M Jolley also there?
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Oh dear. Oh dear indeed Bigdog. It seems that you think you have the answers to everything! Running a football club is not the same as running a retail outlet for example. If it all goes wrong you can't just up sticks and leave. The club is run very well behind the scenes. I'm more concerned with what's happening on the green stuff.


He is right about you though.


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
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