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rancido
January 6, 2019, 6:40pm

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The VAR system operated correctly.
And really appealing the VAR decision- are you sure ??
You don't really understand how football is operating in the modern day.



I'm sure some of these posters would change their tune if we suffered an off the ball incident or elbow in the face that was missed by the officials.


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I don't have a problem with VAR and as you point out, it was a red but the ref didn't give it immediately and as such he did not see it as a red card challenge. The issue I have at the moment is that VAR wasn't applied to all yesterdays FA Cup ties and as such wasn't a "level playing field " - no pun intended. If that same match had been played at BP with the same tackle and ref then a red card wouldn't have been issued because VAR wouldn't have been used. If it is going to be used then it shouldn't be piecemeal but across all games across the FA Cup spectrum. If that facility isn't available for ALL FA Cup matches then it shouldn't be used for any until it is.


So do you have a problem that not all matches at Wimbledon use hawkeye?



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January 6, 2019, 7:01pm

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So do you have a problem that not all matches at Wimbledon use hawkeye?




I don't do tennis but if that is the case then , yes. The Laws ( or rules ) of any sport should be applied equally in any tournament. How about only having VAR for some World Cup Tournament games - is that fair?


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The VAR system operated correctly.
And really appealing the VAR decision- are you sure ??
You don't really understand how football is operating in the modern day.



But did it? The Palace players didn't complain or badger the ref to have it reviewed. The ref didn't see any reason to review it, and he didn't have another look at a pitchside screen to make sure of his error. I'm not sure that is what should have happened, and begs the question of who is in control of the game.
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Ultimately it's the refs call, Atkinson bottled it yesterday because he didn't want to take any black...
If he had a back bone he would have told Moss that he knew if that tackle had have happened once the game had settled he'd have issued a red but because he, as ref, was on the pitch, felt the atmosphere and understood that first tackle was over exuberance and a yellow would suffice enough to calm the player down...
So, in short, yes VAR did its job in informing him he should review the challenge and the colour of the card but he still has the last say ...should've pulled Fox up, had a word in his shelll like, issued the yellow and that should've been the end of it....
And there they shouldn't be trialling VAR at individual games in the same competition....If it's only available at Premier League grounds then they should've played all the 3rd round at Premier League grounds ..
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January 6, 2019, 7:22pm
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I don't get this 'early in the game' thing. I felt for Fox but he lunged in high and late and caught Townsend nearer the knee than the floor. If that catches him square and his foot is planted it's the sort of challenge that breaks legs. Is that okay as it's 2 minutes in? If so what's the cut off? Ten minutes in? So a yellow in the first 9 mins and 59 seconds but after that the game has settled so it's a red?

I thought we were heroic yesterday. Constantly blaming Atkinson and VAR risks distracting from that if we're not careful.
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I'm sure some of these posters would change their tune if we suffered an off the ball incident or elbow in the face that was[/b] missed by the officials[b].


The ref did not miss the incident, as he gave a yellow card.
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I don't get this 'early in the game' thing. I felt for Fox but he lunged in high and late and caught Townsend nearer the knee than the floor. If that catches him square and his foot is planted it's the sort of challenge that breaks legs. Is that okay as it's 2 minutes in? If so what's the cut off? Ten minutes in? So a yellow in the first 9 mins and 59 seconds but after that the game has settled so it's a red?

I thought we were heroic yesterday. Constantly blaming Atkinson and VAR risks distracting from that if we're not careful.


Personally think you're being a bit sanctimonious. If you'd seen that contact 2 minutes into a League 2 game at BP, you'd say yellow. Yes, he made contact high but Townsend got the reaction he wanted from the officials and didn't even need the physio.
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January 6, 2019, 7:41pm
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I don't mean to be, I just think it's a nailed on red card in any game. I'm surprised others feel differently having seen it back.
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There's no way that's a yellow two minutes into a league 2 game. As Rodley said, the contact was nearer his knee than the floor, and every neutral I've shown it to has said it's a clear cut red card.
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