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Jarmo.Is.God
January 6, 2019, 3:08pm

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No issues with VAR
And no issues with the red card

If that was a palace player most would he saying how great VAR is.

It will benefit you and the opposite at times, but it makes the game as fair as it can be, and I have no issues with that.

Don't blame Fox for the tackle, it was early, non intentional, and if that was his last game, I wish him all the best, good player, and hear nothing but good things about him off the pitch aswell
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But as VAR was not at every cup game it is not a level playing field, say Macclesfield were also playing a cup game yesterday but had no VAR, the ref just gives a yellow for an identical incident as Fox's yesterday, hence no suspension for the next three games, but Fox gets a red and misses the next three.
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Quoted from Meza
If you are going to install VAR or even use VAR it needs to be on a separate TV camera system and not to rely on TV cameras.  It was unfair on Town that not all fa cup games used VAR why?

Was it because we had it due to it being shown on foriegn TV as not all fa cup games that had Premier league sides had it.

It just stinks of favouring PL teams.   The bit that's annoyed me is the ref actually waved play on.... Then yellow carded Fox....only for Moss to pull it back after a min or so.  


The technology and equipment is only available at premiership stadiums at the moment.
The nine games which carried VAR were/are premiership stadia.



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The IFAB says VAR is only to be used "to correct clear errors and for missed serious incidents" in those "match-changing" situations.

VARs and other match officials are able to recommend reviews, but the only person who can initiate one is the referee, who will then have the final say on whether their original decision should stand or be changed.

They have the option to review footage themselves on a pitch-side monitor before making a final decision.

Read that on the web, so I can only presume the ref initiated a review. Still, we move on.
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Didn't look like the ref initiated the review he looked happy to give the yellow at the time and move on...
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It was a definite red card. Can't argue with that and Martin Atkinson should have got it right first time.

You can however argue whether the use of VAR in this incident is fair and should be within the remit of VAR. Should VAR be used to overrule the on field referee for an incident he has seen and already taken action for? And for opinion incidents (i.e. foul play and hand ball) should the VAR official be the one making the final decision or should the on field official have to look at it and make the decision (like at the World Cup).

And what is clearly unfair is that this will impact us for the next 3 matches as Fox will now serve a 3 match ban.

If that game had been non-VAR like the majority of 3rd Round matches then the FA couldn't take retrospective action against Fox because the referee saw it and only deemed it a yellow card.

You either have double jeopardy with disciplinary matters or you don't. Especially when it's not a level playing field and the vast majority of the games didn't have VAR.
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Surely it is more unfair to not have VAR in your game as the result is more likely to be effected by a poor decision. Yesterday, Atkinson made a poor decision in giving the yellow and it was corrected. If a Macclesfield player does a tackle half way up our guys shin on Saturday, I'll be seething if it's not a red card. We need to stop playing the victim here and focus on how well the 10 men did.
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Could we appeal the red card on the grounds that the ref only gave a yellow which was incorrectly overruled by the VAR system, which is not in the remitt of the VAR system?
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Could we appeal the red card on the grounds that the ref only gave a yellow which was incorrectly overruled by the VAR system, which is not in the remitt of the VAR system?


Let all Fishy members have a vote on it [all except Stadium and Ipswin   ]
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Could we appeal the red card on the grounds that the ref only gave a yellow which was incorrectly overruled by the VAR system, which is not in the remitt of the VAR system?


The VAR system operated correctly.
And really appealing the VAR decision- are you sure ??
You don't really understand how football is operating in the modern day.




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