Takeover

Quoted from Getyourfactsright

Morning Fishes, and not wanting to prolong, this already too long post, but it might be worth noting.

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A very welcome post, I'd be happy to get these sort of updates from you Mr Fenty. No antagonism, just straight to the point with clarity.

More please, on a semi-regular/as needed basis.

Up the Mariners.

Quoted from RoboCod

A very welcome post, I'd be happy to get these sort of updates from you Mr Fenty. No antagonism, just straight to the point with clarity.

More please, on a semi-regular/as needed basis.

Up the Mariners.

Yes but...

The stadium and training facilities may be physically better than 18 years ago, but relatively, compared to other clubs they are alot worse. Take Doncaster as an example. Belle Vue was a derelict hole and Doncaster struggled to get 2k fans, we wouldn't have a hope of competing with Doncaster for players, coaches and managers now. And more pertinently - if Lincoln get a new stadium before Town they will absolutely clean up in our wider fan catchment area. Unless there are fanatical parents who are Town, who do you think the kids are going to support in the arc from Rasen round to Louth and Mablethorpe if Lincoln are League 1 / Championship with a shiny new stadium? They will become a mini-Norwich and have special buses running from the wider county to home games. Years ago that was GTFC, we were the big club of Lincolnshire. Once you lose a generation of potential fans that becomes a permanent loss. Football is a competitive world and not just on the pitch on matchdays, John, and we've been losing for years...

Honest question John
After 3 relegations, 6 years out of the football league, most of the rest at the bottom end of the 4th division, complete failure to secure a new ground and falling miles behind similar sized clubs how would you'd rate your performance?

Good to see you back on here John, another honest question just how far our we away from actually getting a new ground, or at least getting a site for one approved ??🤔

Another question John,
Would it be possible to build the houses and training facilities at PP,
To fund the new stadium at Freeman St,
I understand the council are keen to have a part of the Freeman St stadium is that a problem with you.?

The arrogance in Mr Fenty's post is breathtaking.  We are light years behind clubs of similar size, and only Michael Jolley' s relative success over the last few weeks is saving him from a barrage of abuse. To highlight one or two basic improvements in 18 years takes some nerve I will give him that.

Quoted from Getyourfactsright

Morning Fishes, and not wanting to prolong, this already too long post, but it might be worth noting.

The Main Stand is not at 'risk' in the medium term or even the long-term as long as it is, up kept 'and it is' and that risk assessments are mitigated against 'which they are'

The cost of improvements have largely been met by external funding and certainly have not hit and will not hit the playing budget.  

It might help to know that the playing budget can only be 50% of turnover plus permanent investment under salary cap rules. We have committed that sum and any improvements will come from elsewhere. Grants and the likes included.

I maintain that the stadium and it's upkeep, together with the training ground, plus the youth academy are light years ahead of 18 years ago having had considerable investment in them.

Could we have done better 'maybe' do we need new facilities 'yes' but are they well cared for? Nick Dale who is largely responsible these days for the facilities, does a really good job of maintaining the stadium to conform and provide the best match-day experience at BP give a Victorian stadium.  

Kind regards  John Fenty
UTM and fingers xx today

Dear John

I think it was my post which used the Main Stand as merely a random "for example of an unforseen cost" rather than being an impending threat. It wasn't even a question to answer. The point I was making was about how underfunded we are for the club to progress rather than a criticism of the current standard of care and maintenance.

I believe the "investment" in the youth set up comes from a good percentage of the EFL annual solidarity payment and can't be spent on anything else. Nobody is doubting that the club spends everything it receives from the EFL or the fanbase on the playing budget and the upkeep of the facilities to the best of its ability, but that isn't the question that everyone is asking. as you would know from reading this thread.

In the spirit of openness could you answer the following questions please?

Is the club actively looking to relocate to a new stadium? If so, has it the funds to progress with it? Even just the administrative costs, ie architects, planning etc?

Why does there seem to be a lack of clarity about what the council are proposing regarding Freeman Street and why are you in the dark if you're a councillor yourself?

Why do you keep insisting that PP is the best way forward and in another breath outline the reasons why it most likely will never come to fruition?

Are the board of GTFC PLC actively looking for new investment at this present moment in time or have you given up? Are you moving heaven and earth to find external investment that is badly needed?

If you're looking for new investors, do you think there are better ways to market the club is for sale or open to new investment other than solely the club website which has such a small audience? Do you think this could be improved to widen the net and make it more public knowledge than it is?

What is your vision for the next five, ten and twenty years for the club? To date we haven't got anything other than more of the same? Do you think that is enough to enthuse the fan base and provide a vision for them to buy into and get more more bums on seats? Or is it all on MJ's shoulders and then what happens when he leaves?

I've never doubted that you and SM can balance the books every year and keep the club in a stagnant position but as we're now in 2019 and the football world has moved on at a fast pace in the past thirty years and is leaving us behind in so many ways, we obviously need new investment, fresh ideas and a new stadium. As the custodian of the club can you set out a clear fully costed plan that we can envisage?

Instead of setting facts straight to something that was only used as a for example, could you please answer the questions above about subjects that have dominated this thread instead,. all subject matters that fans are worrying about and have worried about for years regarding the medium and long term health and future of our club.  

I know these are harder questions to answer but as captain of the ship it's part of your responsibility to do so for our club to flourish. If you can answer the questions and give us some positivity then the questions will stop but until there's proof of the club taking strides forward or openly making a concerted and determined effort to drive the club forward, the questions are never going to go away.

A reliable maintenance of stagnation isn't enough for me and many others. What plans are you putting in place to change things for the long term betterment of the funding and infrastructure of the club?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

The arrogance in Mr Fenty's post is breathtaking.  We are light years behind clubs of similar size, and only Michael Jolley' s relative success over the last few weeks is saving him from a barrage of abuse. To highlight one or two basic improvements in 18 years takes some nerve I will give him that.

Good to see him posting at least.
The majority of supporter's still back him unless there evidence to say otherwise?

Quoted from Stadium

Good to see him posting at least.
The majority of supporter's still back him unless there evidence to say otherwise?

Majority? Seriously! I would say the majority are against unless there is evidence to suggest otherwise.

Quoted from Stadium

Good to see him posting at least.
The majority of supporter's still back him unless there evidence to say otherwise?

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but how can you say that?

Devils advocate would say where is your evidence to say the majority of supporters still back him?