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Maybe the Cowleys have been teaching Theresa May on how to waste time?
Non football I know but if all the remoaners had accepted the referendum result instead of obstructing it at every opportunity , like some guerrilla type of warfare, then it could have been settled long ago.
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Non football I know but if all the remoaners had accepted the referendum result instead of obstructing it at every opportunity , like some guerrilla type of warfare, then it could have been settled long ago.
What does that even mean?
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Non football I know but if all the remoaners had accepted the referendum result instead of obstructing it at every opportunity , like some guerrilla type of warfare, then it could have been settled long ago.
Simply not true, the negotiations have proved far more difficult than brexiteers imagined and they themselves didn't actually agree on what to ask for (look at the different positions of Gove, fox, Duncan Smith, Davis and johnson). In fact the may deal is supported by some of them and implacably opposed by others. The guerilla warfare of the leadership challenge and opposition to the backstop has come largely from internal brexiteer squabbling, hardly remoaner guerilla warfare.
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Simply not true, the negotiations have proved far more difficult than brexiteers imagined and they themselves didn't actually agree on what to ask for (look at the different positions of Gove, fox, Duncan Smith, Davis and johnson). In fact the may deal is supported by some of them and implacably opposed by others. The guerilla warfare of the leadership challenge and opposition to the backstop has come largely from internal brexiteer squabbling, hardly remoaner guerilla warfare.
Well what about Keir Starmer, all the LibDem leading lights ( not that many left admittedly!), Wee Jimmie Cranky of the SNP, businessmen with only their own self-interest at stake and too many MP's from all parties! They did not support leaving the EU and have at every touch and turn tried to lecture the British people who voted to leave that they were wrong and stupid to even consider such a proposal.. Even our own MP voted to remain but I haven't seen much evidence of her supporting any kind of withdrawal deal.
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Non football I know but if all the remoaners had accepted the referendum result instead of obstructing it at every opportunity , like some guerrilla type of warfare, then it could have been settled long ago.
Are you claiming that remainers having a few moans and marches in London (which I don’t really agree with) have affected negotiations which have mostly taken place out of the country?
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I think it’s entirely appropriate that a thread titled ‘Danny Cowley’ should finally be consigned to the Non-Football forum.
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Are you claiming that remainers having a few moans and marches in London (which I don’t really agree with) have affected negotiations which have mostly taken place out of the country?
I certainly think that far too many of the actual politicians that wanted to remain have totally ignored the result of the vote. They are quite happy to weaken our hand to pursue their own interests. And for what it’s worth I think if the boot was on the other foot the Brexiteers would be exactly the same. British politics at the top level is full of greedy egotistical tw@ts on all sides. I don’t trust any of em.
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But the obstruction to the Brexit deal has been led by brexiteer Tories (leadership challenge and opposition to backstop) and brexiteer DUP MPs (opposition to backstop). Not remoaners as you claim. They have been the most high profile opponents so far (some of them anyway, others have supported the deal as the best likely to be achieved). It's not remainers blocking a wonderful Brexit utopia that all brexiteers clap their hands in delight at. Its brexiteers tearing each other apart over their own interpretations of what Brexit is, or should be. That is why it is taking so long - if all brexiteers had one United view of what Brexit is then your point might hold water but for this aspect of the Brexit mess remainers cant be blamed. For what it's worth I think brexiteers are right to oppose the backstop part of the May deal as the potential is there for us to be stuck in limbo. BUT the brexiteers were warned about the issues with the NI border that Brexit would cause but chose to ignore them. Ironic that the DUP were in favour of Brexit, the deal for which they now say is a threat to the union...
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