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MuddyWaters
December 20, 2018, 4:33pm
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Didn't realise players could move as yet ??



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Didn't realise players could move as yet ??



Is it different rules for Conference clubs?


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There is technically no transfer window in the Confefence now so you can sign players any time.


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There is technically no transfer window in the Confefence now so you can sign players any time.


but transfers are a two way deal so i presume that means League clubs can sell a player outside of the window to a club outside of the football league ?
Unless they cancelled his contract to allow him to move as a free agent.  


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Quoted from Les Brechin


Is it different rules for Conference clubs?


I have absolutely no idea.

Why would I bother about some tinpot league with some part time clubs in.  


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She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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Amazing what a Singapore-based billionaire and board of multi-millionaire property developers can do for your budget. Always helpful to have a license-fee-payer-funded documentary or two blowing smoke up your aarsehole too.

Salford encapsulate everything wrong with football below the prem and everyone involved deserves the fuccking rope.
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Quoted from ska face
Amazing what a Singapore-based billionaire and board of multi-millionaire property developers can do for your budget. Always helpful to have a license-fee-payer-funded documentary or two blowing smoke up your aarsehole too.

Salford encapsulate everything wrong with football below the prem and everyone involved deserves the fuccking rope.

So we hate the moneybags Prem and also any fcuker outside the Prem who has money.
Used to call it jealousy when I was a kid.
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So we hate the moneybags Prem and also any fcuker outside the Prem who has money.
Used to call it jealousy when I was a kid.


Got to agree. IF we found a super rich owner who bankrolled GTFC, would you then hate us for it, or enjoy the ride as a fan?
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So we hate the moneybags Prem and also any fcuker outside the Prem who has money.
Used to call it jealousy when I was a kid.


I’d say the surreptitious way that they’ve fronted a lower-league Frankenstein project with some tenuously-linked property developers in order to gather a) local support and (most importantly) b) money, whilst diminishing the role played by a billionaire with stakes in other clubs s particularly shameful. I also find the unrelenting genuflection of the BBC (that’s my money, btw) and Sky (some other mug’s money) at the altar of a bastardised non-league love story beyond the pale. These are the people paid to ask the meaningful questions and hold power to account for the good of the game and the good of Joe Bloggs on the street. What we’re treated to is a 24-7 praise-a-thon and the complete lack of any scrutiny  of the club. Am I jealous of Salford? Not on your life. A tin-pot, glorified Sunday league team who’ll disappear like Gretna when they’ve made a decent return. Literally not in our league.

Alternatively, it could be said nobody gives a fiddler’s fucck what you used to say in whatever century it was that you were a kid.  
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I’d say the surreptitious way that they’ve fronted a lower-league Frankenstein project with some tenuously-linked property developers in order to gather a) local support and (most importantly) b) money, whilst diminishing the role played by a billionaire with stakes in other clubs s particularly shameful. I also find the unrelenting genuflection of the BBC (that’s my money, btw) and Sky (some other mug’s money) at the altar of a bastardised non-league love story beyond the pale. These are the people paid to ask the meaningful questions and hold power to account for the good of the game and the good of Joe Bloggs on the street. What we’re treated to is a 24-7 praise-a-thon and the complete lack of any scrutiny  of the club. Am I jealous of Salford? Not on your life. A tin-pot, glorified Sunday league team who’ll disappear like Gretna when they’ve made a decent return. Literally not in our league.

Alternatively, it could be said nobody gives a fiddler’s fucck what you used to say in whatever century it was that you were a kid.  

That's told me then.
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I thinks it's ok that they decided to put the money into Salford when they could just as easily gone for one of the "sleeping giants". Wednesday, Sunderland, Portsmouth etc. would have made them more money a lot faster
I'd only be too pleased if someone similar did it with town. In fact when I win euromillions tonight most of it will be used to get us back to the championship in 5 years. I can see the crowds flocking to the Buckstown Arena down freemo. It's going to have a 16 story block of council flats on each corner for nostalgic purposes, but they won't have windows so the thieving toads won't be able to watch for free
I have a dream....
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Evidently Salford paid a £75K fee for him and strong rumour over here is that Lincoln bringing in about seven new players in January including Christian Doidge from Bolton.

Let’s hope that like with our signings when top of the conference bringing in new players causes disharmony rather than improvement. We need to turn them over in January to make my pub visits much more enjoyable 😄😄
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I like the idea , , a bit like Brentford with the pubs on each corner but you will have high rise flats instead!  


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A team who attract between 2 and 3 thousand fans can seemingly afford to pay transfer fees and wages way beyond the level for their league. Financial fair play is a joke, especially concerning a team backed by ex Prem players. That is my only gripe with Salford, and any other side for that matter, who have a totally unfair advantage over everyone else in their division. Add to that the press love in, and it's totally understandable that Salford, and similar "projects" attract some bile. I think i could manage Salford to promotion with their financial backing.

Edit to add that i know FFP doesn't yet apply in non league, but it should IMO. Once they get in they league proper, they will carry on in the same vein, i have no doubt.
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Think it is double standards to ‘hate’ all the money in the Premiershipa but think the Salford money is ok.
For the record I would be totally against a Russian, Chinese, Thai billionaire buying GTFC and throwing money at it like confetti. Long held belief that in the interest of sustainability the only way forward is a true community club. May be a pipe dream but to have the community fully behind, and involved in the club, supporting on a match day, wearing their Town shirts day in day out, players engaging with the locals etc etc.
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It's not dissimilar to the way that Rushden and Diamonds bought their way into the Football League many moons ago, backed by Max Griggs the owner of Doc Martens boots. It's like the way Crawley bought their way into the League, like Fleetwood did similar, and no doubt AFC Fylde and others will do so in the future. Love it or loath it, it's a relatively cheap and easy way to off set you taxes and get superb amounts of unwarranted free advertising....and it obviously works.

Cove Rangers are doing it in the Highland League up here on crowds of less than 200, and are buying players from Aberdeen and others - one reputed to cost £30k - and paying wages way over and above what is paid elsewhere, including the lower ends of the Scottish League. Doesn't necessarily always got to plan as they found out when the mighty Auchinleck Talbot put paid to their Scottish Cup plans for this season


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What happens is that life is grand as long as moneybags is interested in his new toy. When things start to get a bit difficult then they start to get a bit difficult as well but they can afford to let the club suffer when they are walking away.

Salford is no different to Crawley or Fleetwood or any of the others except that there was a built-in animosity about the involvement of Neville and co.


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A team who attract between 2 and 3 thousand fans can seemingly afford to pay transfer fees and wages way beyond the level for their league. Financial fair play is a joke, especially concerning a team backed by ex Prem players. That is my only gripe with Salford, and any other side for that matter, who have a totally unfair advantage over everyone else in their division. Add to that the press love in, and it's totally understandable that Salford, and similar "projects" attract some bile. I think i could manage Salford to promotion with their financial backing.

Edit to add that i know FFP doesn't yet apply in non league, but it should IMO. Once they get in they league proper, they will carry on in the same vein, i have no doubt.


It is a joke FFP, just like Vince at FGR they must massage their figures to get within the league rules.

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Whatever, I hope Orient go up.
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Quoted from Cloudy
Think it is double standards to ‘hate’ all the money in the Premiership but think the Salford money is ok.
For the record I would be totally against a Russian, Chinese, Thai billionaire buying GTFC and throwing money at it like confetti. Long held belief that in the interest of sustainability the only way forward is a true community club. May be a pipe dream but to have the community fully behind, and involved in the club, supporting on a match day, wearing their Town shirts day in day out, players engaging with the locals etc etc.


I don't hate all of the money in the Premier League. The divvy up of the TV money I do. The stockpiling of players I do. The share that the Premier League clubs receive compared to the EFL is pure gluttony, but if an individual wants to invest in a football club then I'm fine with that. It's a free market after all. It's pretty simplistic, and in my opinion wrong to say that a billionnaire investor only throws money around like confetti when most don't and in reality invest in sustainable and affordable business models. The odd one or two don't work out, but plenty do. Let's paint them all with the nutter brush. It's also wrong to say that billionnaire-owned clubs don't have players engaging in the local community or communities don't got get behind those clubs and wear shirts day in day out, because they do. You only have to look as far as Leicester, Bournemouth or Brighton.

We have in effect a community based club here at GTFC already. Willing volunteers, Trust member having a seat on the board, YDA, Sport And Education Trust etc etc. It's not community owned, but even if it was I can't imagine much more could be achieved without significant outside investment. Would we suddenly get 7-8k home gates? Would 30 mill suddenly appear for a new stadium? Would there suddenly appear an extra army of 500 volunteers? It would be nice to think so, but in reality due to busy lives, it would remain nothing more than a pipe dream.

We can live on pipe dreams until we all eventually croak, we can all imagine that any new investor is some deranged lunatic that will throw around money like confetti, get bored and close the club down, we can all stereotype them til the cows come home. Reality lies somewhere in between. If anyone has amassed a fortune, they're generally not stupid and are fully aware of every single factor to make a football club a success, including having an inclusive community based agenda.

As football owners go, it's not purely about how much money an investor has got, whether lending a club 2 mil or pumping 40 or 50 mill to build a new stadium and beginning to build a football club up from a higher base level which expands the possibility of success, it's about the man himself and how he operates. Not every community based club has flourished either, many fall by the wayside too.

Let's hide behind stereotypes, be happy with our own lot, be smug in our principles and let the whole football world leave us behind eh? The reality for a club like ours to progress is to somehow find an investor who will give us a leg up into a new stadium, breathe new life and ideas into the club and engage in the community at the same time. It's not an either or for me, it's both hand in hand to get out of this hole we're in..

Where's this fan-led community based GTFC that everyone dreams about and writes about going to come from anyway? Because it's been fifteen years of shite at least and not a single person has even got their act together and put forward or launched a community based alternative to what we've got already..
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What happens is that life is grand as long as moneybags is interested in his new toy. When things start to get a bit difficult then they start to get a bit difficult as well but they can afford to let the club suffer when they are walking away.

Salford is no different to Crawley or Fleetwood or any of the others except that there was a built-in animosity about the involvement of Neville and co.


Imho Salford is different because they have got bbc spun king over everything they do. It’s is pathetic, like putting manure of tv for cup games no matter who they are playing for years.

I used to look to the bbc for truth and being upstanding. Nowadays they are just pathetic in pretty much everything they do (apart from the occasional good drama). It sickens me to the core 🙂
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Imho Salford is different because they have got bbc spun king over everything they do. It’s is pathetic, like putting manure of tv for cup games no matter who they are playing for years.

I used to look to the bbc for truth and being upstanding. Nowadays they are just pathetic in pretty much everything they do (apart from the occasional good drama). It sickens me to the core 🙂


Salford FC (or whatever they are called) are the latter-day QPR. Popular with the BBC because they are round the corner.


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In other news - Salford lost at home today to mid-table Dag and Redbridge.
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Salford FC (or whatever they are called) are the latter-day QPR. Popular with the BBC because they are round the corner.


Love it Chris......

The annoying thing is if they come up we'l never hear the fukin last of it.


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In other news - Salford lost at home today to mid-table Dag and Redbridge.


And Man City lost at home to some team called Crystal Palace  



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And Man City lost at home to some team called Crystal Palace  



Funny old game football.......That Crystal Palace look like the kind of team who could win away at the home of the Premier League mega spenders one week and get knocked out of the cup by the likes of “lowly Grimsby” the next. 🤔


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It’s good for them that Palace have been buoyed by their big cup draw. Looked in real trouble a few weeks ago.
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Quoted from jock dock tower
It's not dissimilar to the way that Rushden and Diamonds bought their way into the Football League many moons ago, backed by Max Griggs the owner of Doc Martens boots. It's like the way Crawley bought their way into the League, like Fleetwood did similar, and no doubt AFC Fylde and others will do so in the future. Love it or loath it, it's a relatively cheap and easy way to off set you taxes and get superb amounts of unwarranted free advertising....and it obviously works.

Cove Rangers are doing it in the Highland League up here on crowds of less than 200, and are buying players from Aberdeen and others - one reputed to cost £30k - and paying wages way over and above what is paid elsewhere, including the lower ends of the Scottish League. Doesn't necessarily always got to plan as they found out when the mighty Auchinleck Talbot put paid to their Scottish Cup plans for this season


had me worried there JDT....made me wait right to the end before crow barring ATFC in your post  


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And Man City lost at home to some team called Crystal Palace  



I had a nice double of crystal and leicester to win at 134-1 yesterday, only had ten bob on, still a nice little earner.
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I had a nice double of crystal and leicester to win at 134-1 yesterday, only had ten bob on, still a nice little earner.



I never realised bookies still accepted pre-decimal currency ! lol


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I never realised bookies still accepted pre-decimal currency ! lol


He put the bet on in 1969, didn't take long to come good!
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