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Mariner Ronnie |
December 15, 2018, 12:03pm |
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Ok some top betting tips.
Scottish league 1 fill your boots, not a single 0-0 this season, last season there was only 1! Over 1.5 in all games pays over evens, every time it almost comes in! (Hope I haven’t jinxed it!) 😬
Everton (kicks off in 30) except 2 games this season they’ve always had over 2.5 goals in their games.
Exeter, a sodomist for giving away corners 🙄 over 9 corners.
Mauro Icardi, scored in 10 of the last 12 games, near evens on a return.
Luton town double chance, running away with it at the moment, can’t remember the last time they lost 👍🏼
Bury, always goals in their games, use it to push up your acca!!!
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Tommy |
December 15, 2018, 1:15pm |
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I've gone with you on the Scottish League One Ronnie.
Just read a stat that 89% of games in that division have had over 1.5 goals.
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Mariner Ronnie |
December 15, 2018, 1:21pm |
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Good lad 👍🏼
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jock dock tower |
December 15, 2018, 2:02pm |
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It's not so easy as it first seems Ronnie, and in the Scottish Championship where goals flow ever more freely the results are skewed by the odd big score by the likes of Ayr United. Before putting 5 past Dundee United two weeks back they'd only scored two goals in the previous three games, even though they average two goals per game with 30 from 15 league games so far.
On January 19th Ayr play at Auchinleck Talbot in the Scottish Cup, and it's the early kick off on BBC Scotland, and we're expecting a 3,100 crowd as it's a very local derby. In the last round Beith - same league as us - were beaten 3-0 at home by them. Beith were 12-1 at the bookies to beat Ayr, and I reckon we'll be similar. There'll be sh1tloads of money going on Auchinleck locally if that is the case. We've played league teams in the Scottish Cup three times, and never lost by more than a single goal, including at Hearts in 2011-12 when they won the Scottish Cup. Smart money would be a on a similar scoreline with just one goal in it, we've only conceded 5 goals in our 9 league games so far, winning 20 of the 24 games we've played in all competitions so far this season including 5 in the senior Scottish Cup.
SATURDAY 10TH NOVEMBER Ayr United 1 Queen of the South 1
Dunfermline 0 Falkir1
Greenock Morton 0 Alloa Athletic 2
Partick Thistle 0 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 1
Ross County 0 Dundee United 1
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Tommy |
December 15, 2018, 5:07pm |
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Ronnie you're rubbish
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Mariner Ronnie |
December 15, 2018, 5:28pm |
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Just one goal! One goal! Off winning that lot ☹️
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jock dock tower |
December 15, 2018, 7:36pm |
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Scottish Championship today, all five games were draws and only 12 goals scored for an average of 1.2 goals per team. It really is difficult to predict up here because it is so unpredictable.
No away wins at all today in Division Two today. Cheltenham would have done it had Port Vale not scored a late equaliser.
Good to see Scunny keeping up their excellent losing streak, from the play off places to one point above the drop zone in 7 games.
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GrimRob |
December 15, 2018, 7:59pm |
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It's so easy to be fooled by randomness and to see patterns where none exist. I remember noticing that one Super League season there was only one draw. I decided to lay the draw on Betfair at a quite long price but one that would make a healthy return over the season in the event of only a few draws. Of course I had been fooled by randomness and the following year there were far more draws than normal and I lost heavily. Had I started looking one year later I'd have bet on draws rather than lay them, such are the vagaries of chance. The moral of the story is to backtest over a long period of several years to try out your pet theory before starting to put bets on. It's so easy to be fooled by the apparent patterns in random behaviour like football scores.
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Davec |
December 15, 2018, 8:30pm |
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Might aswell just do Matched betting, gaurenteed profit that way
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promotion plaice |
December 16, 2018, 1:02am |
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Mugs game.........yeah I do have the occasional small bet to make a game more interesting but can't remember when I last did.
I've only ever bet in a bookies but this betting online thing seems to be really big now with these free bets to suck you in.
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December 16, 2018, 10:12am |
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It's so easy to be fooled by randomness and to see patterns where none exist. I remember noticing that one Super League season there was only one draw. I decided to lay the draw on Betfair at a quite long price but one that would make a healthy return over the season in the event of only a few draws. Of course I had been fooled by randomness and the following year there were far more draws than normal and I lost heavily. Had I started looking one year later I'd have bet on draws rather than lay them, such are the vagaries of chance. The moral of the story is to backtest over a long period of several years to try out your pet theory before starting to put bets on. It's so easy to be fooled by the apparent patterns in random behaviour like football scores.
Backtesting is a load of codswallop. Just because something happened in the past does not mean anything in the future. All successful backtesting tells you is that if you had put those bets on in the past then you would have won.
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cannylad68 |
December 16, 2018, 2:53pm |
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Free bets are guaranteed to make money.
Best thing ever.
But those that profit from them eventually get banned or restricted.
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Gaffer58 |
December 16, 2018, 4:18pm |
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Free bets are guaranteed to make money.
Best thing ever.
But those that profit from them eventually get banned or restricted.
So are you saying that if you are quite successful at betting he companies get shirty ? Does seem fair if so as it's called gambling, but for the punter and the company.
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RichMariner |
December 17, 2018, 3:48pm |
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Bookies will start limiting your account if they see you're profitable over a long period of time (or if you just use their 'reload' offers and never place a traditional bet).
There are so many online betting companies out there that they're all pushing more and more free bets and offers - not just to win new customers, but to retain them long term.
The trouble is, you have a lot of matched bettors who (legally) abuse the offers. Betting companies are getting wise to this and they're cracking down.
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Davec |
December 17, 2018, 4:05pm |
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Bookies will start limiting your account if they see you're profitable over a long period of time (or if you just use their 'reload' offers and never place a traditional bet).
There are so many online betting companies out there that they're all pushing more and more free bets and offers - not just to win new customers, but to retain them long term.
The trouble is, you have a lot of matched bettors who (legally) abuse the offers. Betting companies are getting wise to this and they're cracking down.
I don't think betting companies will evee be able to crack down completely on matched betting because to avoid suspicion just put a few "normal" bets and that would potentially throw them off the scent, also if you get restricted by one betting company there's always many more to continue the matched betting, there's loads who we've never even heard off!
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moosey_club |
December 17, 2018, 4:18pm |
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Just remember that they are a business and in the business of making money.....they set the markets....they promote the markets they want you to bet on......do people really think that good old Ray Winston is actually offering you an unbiased view of what might be a good bet at half time ? Every minute of every game they are monitoring the overall loss and profit as each game stands and will attempt to sway the market in their favour. Anyone who listens to Talksport will have heard Paddy Power himself come on and tell you what he thinks is a good bet for that days races, big event etc...wow thanks Paddy for offering me a great inside tip !!! FFS. Betting for the majority is for fun....you should bet what you can afford to lose and nothing else.....unless of course you get offered nearly 2-1 for Town beating Chesterfield then you should put your house on it !!
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Mighty_Mariner |
December 17, 2018, 10:13pm |
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Could somebody explain what 'matched betting' is please?
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Davec |
December 17, 2018, 10:19pm |
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Could somebody explain what 'matched betting' is please?
Basically you take advantage of the sign up offers bookies offer by backing and laying teams using the bookies site and a betting exchange such as bet Fair, then when they have gone you've got reload offers to make more money, it's a gaurenteed profit.
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GrimRob |
December 18, 2018, 10:29am |
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Backtesting is a load of codswallop. Just because something happened in the past does not mean anything in the future. All successful backtesting tells you is that if you had put those bets on in the past then you would have won.
And the alternative is just to bet and hope. Betfair, for example, provides minute by minute prices going back years, it's possible to do very sophisticated backtesting of algorithms so you can test not just the prices but things like whether it's better to bet 5 minutes before kick off or 3 days before, and whether to back or to lay. You can also see how likely you are to go broke and run out of money and what staking strategy you should use to avoid to minimise the chances of losing everything (which is a real risk even for a winning strategy).
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moosey_club |
December 18, 2018, 10:46am |
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And the alternative is just to bet and hope. Betfair, for example, provides minute by minute prices going back years, it's possible to do very sophisticated backtesting of algorithms so you can test not just the prices but things like whether it's better to bet 5 minutes before kick off or 3 days before, and whether to back or to lay. You can also see how likely you are to go broke and run out of money and what staking strategy you should use to avoid to minimise the chances of losing everything (which is a real risk even for a winning strategy).
pffft....or you could just wake up and fancy a team a win
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