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Sadly money talks and taking Bournemouth and comparing them to Town who are a similar sized Club historically I bet since we both stayed up in terms of finances from football revenue gained I bet weve had something like 3-4M IN and they would have easily had 20 times that amount? Their business model if that`s the right word is clearly working and many Clubs like Town are miles behind for whatever reason so they clearly need a different approach or the gap will just keep on growing. I see Town has having real potential however so many huge Clubs between us and the Prem it`s very unlikely we could ever get there with everything in our favour. Most Clubs are surviving and it`s a pretty sad state of affairs when more than half the Prem teams dont attempt to win either domestic cup in favour of preserving league status due to finance.It`s a business not a sport and it`s very difficult for us fans to accept


Their business model works a lot easier when it's backed by a Russian Billionaire.
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Sadly money talks and taking Bournemouth and comparing them to Town who are a similar sized Club historically I bet since we both stayed up in terms of finances from football revenue gained I bet weve had something like 3-4M IN and they would have easily had 20 times that amount?
Their business model if that`s the right word is clearly working and many Clubs like Town are miles behind for whatever reason so they clearly need a different approach or the gap will just keep on growing. I see Town has having real potential however so many huge Clubs between us and the Prem it`s very unlikely we could ever get there with everything in our favour. Most Clubs are surviving and it`s a pretty sad state of affairs when more than half the Prem teams dont attempt to win either domestic cup in favour of preserving league status due to finance.It`s a business not a sport and it`s very difficult for us fans to accept



With it being their fourth season in the Premier League, it's more like 100 times the amount we've received. Roughly 100 mill a season nowadays for mid-table..
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Sadly money talks and taking Bournemouth and comparing them to Town who are a similar sized Club historically I bet since we both stayed up in terms of finances from football revenue gained I bet weve had something like 3-4M IN and they would have easily had 20 times that amount? Their business model if that`s the right word is clearly working and many Clubs like Town are miles behind for whatever reason so they clearly need a different approach or the gap will just keep on growing. I see Town has having real potential however so many huge Clubs between us and the Prem it`s very unlikely we could ever get there with everything in our favour. Most Clubs are surviving and it`s a pretty sad state of affairs when more than half the Prem teams dont attempt to win either domestic cup in favour of preserving league status due to finance.It`s a business not a sport and it`s very difficult for us fans to accept



Think the gap between each division has grown L2 TV money is low ,L1 is about £500k more but think the Championship you get £12.million.

L1 is a tough division and you definitely need a backer to get out of it o0r be able to build a squad  Accy did that but only because there are so many teams in that area if players are settled and don't want to move then clubs like Accy are ideal for them.
Even in L2 you have to spend not only big but wisely to get out of it.
Swann puts in a big wedge but this season the team has flopped and staring relegation his statement would more than likely divide the fan base than unite it.
Clubs in the main have no money and a local population that would rather follow a prem team than watch their own Town/City.
Football clubs need the fanbase uniting behind them and to also  attract in investment its a fine balance.
At Lincoln we had for years tried to get the fanbase onside and to be fair it was working but once the Cowleys came it was on steroids ,they went out and engaged with the fan base great times.
So you need to work on all angles not just get investment in but the whole community ethos needs to be persued.
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Think the gap between each division has grown L2 TV money is low ,L1 is about £500k more but think the Championship you get £12.million.

L1 is a tough division and you definitely need a backer to get out of it o0r be able to build a squad  Accy did that but only because there are so many teams in that area if players are settled and don't want to move then clubs like Accy are ideal for them.
Even in L2 you have to spend not only big but wisely to get out of it.
Swann puts in a big wedge but this season the team has flopped and staring relegation his statement would more than likely divide the fan base than unite it.
Clubs in the main have no money and a local population that would rather follow a prem team than watch their own Town/City.
Football clubs need the fanbase uniting behind them and to also  attract in investment its a fine balance.
At Lincoln we had for years tried to get the fanbase onside and to be fair it was working but once the Cowleys came it was on steroids ,they went out and engaged with the fan base great times.
So you need to work on all angles not just get investment in but the whole community ethos needs to be persued.


Competing in League 1 will be difficult even for Lincoln. 8-9k gates make any team relatively small fry.
Investment from outsiders is not only difficult to attract but you have to question motives too. Small town, or even small cities, are left behind in modern day football. Huge sums required to compete, like Swann’s alledged £300k PER MONTH yet they struggle and fans become hostile.

I can only think the best way is to try and build slowly with limited speculation. Otherwise you are risking your very existence.

It’s a tough world

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Storm in a tea cup.....ermmm ....so you are not saying he is innocent then ?

Will be interesting to see how that pans out....in favour of Fry i imagine.


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Competing in League 1 will be difficult even for Lincoln. 8-9k gates make any team relatively small fry.
Investment from outsiders is not only difficult to attract but you have to question motives too. Small town, or even small cities, are left behind in modern day football. Huge sums required to compete, like Swann’s alledged £300k PER MONTH yet they struggle and fans become hostile.

I can only think the best way is to try and build slowly with limited speculation. Otherwise you are risking your very existence.

It’s a tough world




Agree with that under no illusions about  L1.The step up from the Conference was big enough.
Average wage bill i think is around £3.5 million in L1 its a very tough division.

If we went into L1 i'd hope our stay was limited to the one season and then promotion.

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