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Just a question to you all really in relation to the telegraph does anyone here still buy it daily or do you just read it online?
What do you buy it for as in what part of the paper do you want to read?

The reason for this post a friend of mine has written a column for 20 year`s on Angling and they are trying to do away with his page citing costs. He is of the opinion the paper in paper format is not long at all for this World and it will all go digital. To me having grown up with the paper and the sports paper,target,gazzette and it being last man standing so to speak will we miss it when it`s gone? I normally glance at the front page skim through turn to the back and read the bits on Town on to the death column and file it. I really miss the Saturday Sports Paper and have to say nothing online about local sport the digital age will never give us back what we had in my opinion with the local written press?

Let's put it this way, if it was announced tomorrow that the Grimsby Telegraph was to cease in its print format I think I would feel a bit of a nostalgic pang of pain.  But that would all it is, nostalgia.

I completely agree on the Sports Telegraph, that was a treat of sorts and was well written for many a year.  There was something magical about waiting for it around 6pm after a Town game for the full list of results and to see where we were in the table.  But all that is done on a mobile phone before you've even left the game now, even during the game to be fair.

The actual Telegraph is poor now, really really poor.  I can't remember the last time I bought it but when I visit my Grandad I tend to have a quick gander and I'm always disappointed with the content.  I think in this day in age the news is so fast that print editions just can't keep up.  I visit the online site on a fairly regular basis but the layout is dreadful and frustrating but the click-bait style articles do nothing for me so I end up scanning the front page and then I might read the odd story but nothing more.

I've no idea on circulation details but I would be surprised if the Grimsby Telegraph manages to survive much longer on a daily basis and expect it would follow the Scunthorpe edition in going weekly.  

Being an exile I use the online format, which imo is shocking, mainly to do with the adverts filling the page or even stopping me from actually reading an article

You lads complaining about being able to read the online version. Do you use an ad blocker? I use Adblock Plus which is a free extension to Safari but I'd have thought there are versions for Internet Explorer and other browsers and it works a treat for the most part.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Just a question to you all really in relation to the telegraph does anyone here still buy it daily or do you just read it online?
What do you buy it for as in what part of the paper do you want to read?

The reason for this post a friend of mine has written a column for 20 year`s on Angling and they are trying to do away with his page citing costs. He is of the opinion the paper in paper format is not long at all for this World and it will all go digital. To me having grown up with the paper and the sports paper,target,gazzette and it being last man standing so to speak will we miss it when it`s gone? I normally glance at the front page skim through turn to the back and read the bits on Town on to the death column and file it. I really miss the Saturday Sports Paper and have to say nothing online about local sport the digital age will never give us back what we had in my opinion with the local written press?

Tell Tony to get a proper job!  

In all seriousness, not bought the Telegraph in ages.

It's a shambles now if you ask me. No better than tabloid rubbish, with one-sided stories written without any balance, facts or journalism involved in any of it.

Pure clickbait as their only concern is trying to get clicks so the adverts on their pages get seen. Hence the misleading headlines and constant non-stories about things they know people will write loads of comments on it (anything about bin collections, littering fines, new GTFC stadium etc etc).

Only used to read it for the Town stuff but that's all online to watch or listen to before the Telegraph put it out in drips and drabs through the week so there's never anything new in it.

Quoted from fishboyUTM

You lads complaining about being able to read the online version. Do you use an ad blocker? I use Adblock Plus which is a free extension to Safari but I'd have thought there are versions for Internet Explorer and other browsers and it works a treat for the most part.

Well in the case of angling I can`t find the page online to read is the problem I and thousands of others have.Usually the angling is in the Saturday paper and covers 2 pages so I go out and buy it most weeks. When you go on the http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk you can find all the stuff fairly easily but WTF the angling page is I have no idea .

Quoted from Mariner Timsky

Being an exile I use the online format, which imo is shocking, mainly to do with the adverts filling the page or even stopping me from actually reading an article

Put adbloc on your phone or laptop etc , it works

I read a copy the other day when one had somehow made itself to me down south.

Not much had changed in the 10 years since I last saw it, Tim Mickleburgh was talking about public transport, locals were complaining about how a new development will impact car parking, and 200 raw chickens were found on the nunny  

Seriously though, I couldn't actually finish reading it. It was like there wasn't a single positive thing in there.

Quoted from Tommy

Tell Tony to get a proper job!  

Oooo look at me I'm on first name terms with a guy that writes a column in the Telegraph  

To be honest, I am surprised any newspapers are still printed in 2018, thought they'd have died out years ago now that you can get your news online which is in real time, at no cost, doesn't kill trees, in the palm of your hand etc., etc.,

they only print old news that you can find on facebook or other social media over priced for what you get

I think the demise of newspapers (especially the broadsheets) in favour of on line 'newsbites' is very sad but in the case of the (once great) Telewag I'll make an exception

I wouldn’t pay 70p a day for toilet paper.

There is a lot to be said for the digital newspaper but it is no longer truly local. The people there are bloggers and net surfers, a lot of the stuff is just cut and paste. The real problem with the GT is that it has been taken over by the Daily Mirror group who have a central editing policy and dictate a lot of content for the local media. There is a definite political slant now. Under the previous owners the GT editors like Michelle Lalor were a lot freer to reflect the locality. It is the same in Norfolk, Archant Press do the same with all their papers and the Johnson Press do the same in Yorkshire. It is a pity when you remember what the GT was like with proper journos like Roy Line and John Kirkby.

Well those of us of a certain age will remember having scrap books and painstakingly cutting out all the Town stuff and pasting them in. Gutted I chucked mine out for nostalgia but I can still visualize the cut out of Wilko`s diving header at Goodison and the headlines about  Town making Custers last stand look like a tea party

Mainly buy it for Geoff Fords column on a Friday. Other than that, I only occasionally buy it.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I wouldn’t pay 70p a day for toilet paper.

There is a lot to be said for the digital newspaper but it is no longer truly local. The people there are bloggers and net surfers, a lot of the stuff is just cut and paste. The real problem with the GT is that it has been taken over by the Daily Mirror group who have a central editing policy and dictate a lot of content for the local media. There is a definite political slant now. Under the previous owners the GT editors like Michelle Lalor were a lot freer to reflect the locality. It is the same in Norfolk, Archant Press do the same with all their papers and the Johnson Press do the same in Yorkshire. It is a pity when you remember what the GT was like with proper journos like Roy Line and John Kirkby.

I totally agree when I first started work all the guys bought either the Sun or Daily Mirror in the main and I would skim through them thinking how poor they were compared to the Telegraph. When it got delivered it was a race between me and the old man to read it first he hated it if he got it 2nd hand but it was a worthy read. The stuff on Town which is the main bit I want to read is like you say regurgitated crap often from places like this.Journalism is all but dead especially locally and with the talent we have had Lowther,Lalor, Kirby,Burman to name a few it`s a crying shame something can`t be done. I would think a local Monthly rather than Weekly would be the way to go now in print or something Digital done by local people. Once this is lost though much like the Sports telegraph we will be worse off.

It's gone from being called The Grimsby Evening Telegrapgh to just The Grimsby Telegraph.

In hindsight, due to the time it's printed now it should really be called The Grimsby Yesterday Telegraph.

Who remembers the time when there were 2 editions. The one printed for the out of town shops and then a final "Town" edition which wasn't printed until about 4 or 5pm in the afternoon.

Quoted from Les Brechin

It's gone from being called The Grimsby Evening Telegrapgh to just The Grimsby Telegraph.

In hindsight, due to the time it's printed now it should really be called The Grimsby Yesterday Telegraph.

Who remembers the time when there were 2 editions. The one printed for the out of town shops and then a final "Town" edition which wasn't printed until about 4 or 5pm in the afternoon.

Yes and sadly that all went when the main part of the print and offices moved out from near the flyover.

I grew up wanting to be a journalist. I did all my GCSEs, A-levels and spent time on work experience at the Grimsby Telegraph. I even got a diploma in journalism (humble brag) but when it got to the point where I tried to break into the industry... in 2002... it was on its bottom, even then.

It's really sad to see the state of the local paper now. My grandparents used to get it every day but I haven't picked up or even seen a copy in years.

If the standard of journalism on their online version is anything to go by, I really don't see the point.

As many have already pointed out, print can't keep pace with breaking news so it needed to diversify, which it hasn't. Journalists are now asked to re-write content, and very few investigate or report like they used to.

If sales nosedive then they cut costs, have fewer journalists working there and so the quality suffers as they're each stretched to cover a number of jobs and stories. It's a really sad state of affairs and the trend is irreversible.

Each time I look on the Telegraph website it's full of articles that are padded out and dreamt up from nowhere as there's no one going down to the club and getting actual quotes off players. And the headlines are all very click-baity, all along the lines of 'why you need to know this'.

Well I already know. Between the official site, social media and even Cod Almighty, there's nothing new that the Telegraph can tell me. They even lift Jolley's comments from the same interview he gives iFollow and Humberside.

I have it delivered everyday, i look online as well, the paper version is very good for all the local info, i find out whom i know has passed away, i love the bygones section & photo's, i will always buy it as it's our area's local paper, you never know what you miss until it's gone. I also miss the Football on a Saturday night. I just want to support it, bit like GTFC really.

I have the same problem finding the angling section on line, even in the print it seems to be just a few match results or carp fishing.. And remember well waiting outside the paper shop for the sports paper to be delivered, every one stood chatting about town

I think i cancelled my order with the Newsagent after they printed one of these;

an article on the historic fishing smack awaiting Heritage Centre funding/renovation in Alexandra Dock sinking.......alongside the article was a photograph of the wrong wreck on the opposite side of the dock poking out the water...

or  ..

Humber Tsunami !  as a headline with an article below saying there wont be one


When i see a copy now at friends or families it doesn't take long to establish its cr@p.

Newspapers will eventually be a thing of the past. The new generations are being bought up in the digital age and they consume everything through HD screens. You simply get news faster online and on demand so it makes the idea of buying a paper to read news obsolete. We've seen formerly huge papers die out and local rags are slowly fading away. I feel like once my parent's generation is gone that'll be the last of the people who were heavily bought up on newspapers and magazines and still read them out of habit. Mine adapted to the internet  in the late 90's and never looked back because new tech just kept coming. Once smartphones and tablets happened I think that was the final nail in the coffin for printed media. It's just a matter of time but several papers and magazines die each year due to dwindling sales.

Quoted from Kris2

Newspapers will eventually be a thing of the past. The new generations are being bought up in the digital age and they consume everything through HD screens. You simply get news faster online and on demand so it makes the idea of buying a paper to read news obsolete. We've seen formerly huge papers die out and local rags are slowly fading away. I feel like once my parent's generation is gone that'll be the last of the people who were heavily bought up on newspapers and magazines and still read them out of habit. Mine adapted to the internet  in the late 90's and never looked back because new tech just kept coming. Once smartphones and tablets happened I think that was the final nail in the coffin for printed media. It's just a matter of time but several papers and magazines die each year due to dwindling sales.

I think you are right Kris. The biggest benefit is speed and accessibility. The biggest drawback is inaccuracy. We know that from the Fishy with all these rumours that come from Twitter or some arcane website. The big plus of the printed paper was that 99% of the time, for football at least, the journalism was true and if Charles Eckberg or Roy Line said something critical then it was not just gossip or PR from a player or the club.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I think you are right Kris. The biggest benefit is speed and accessibility. The biggest drawback is inaccuracy. We know that from the Fishy with all these rumours that come from Twitter or some arcane website. The big plus of the printed paper was that 99% of the time, for football at least, the journalism was true and if Charles Eckberg or Roy Line said something critical then it was not just gossip or PR from a player or the club.

We call that sort of thing click bait for a reason  . Most people under 50 are well aware of what internet rumours can do and how fast they can spread around, so I think we are becoming smarter to rumours. Since a good majority of The Fishy are over 50 it'll probably take a bit longer until this forum gets smart to fake news and click bait lol. There are also many newspapers that have been known for bait articles and fake news. Most sports newspapers would publish rumour and hearsay as fact even before the internet news really took off. I think saying 99% of what was printed was true is a bit laughable.

And besides, most people on The Fishy get their news from drinking with the granddad of young players down the local and getting stuff repeated that he's heard from the grandson. Anyone on here talking about a "reliable source" is probably talking about this. Only a couple of idiots make up stuff and a few more idiots believe it. I've make nonsense rumours up for fun that are so ridiculous they'd never happen and got DMs from some people asking me for more details and if it's true lol.

Quoted from Kris2

We call that sort of thing click bait for a reason  . Most people under 50 are well aware of what internet rumours can do and how fast they can spread around, so I think we are becoming smarter to rumours. Since a good majority of The Fishy are over 50 it'll probably take a bit longer until this forum gets smart to fake news and click bait lol. There are also many newspapers that have been known for bait articles and fake news. Most sports newspapers would publish rumour and hearsay as fact even before the internet news really took off. I think saying 99% of what was printed was true is a bit laughable.

And besides, most people on The Fishy get their news from drinking with the granddad of young players down the local and getting stuff repeated that he's heard from the grandson. Anyone on here talking about a "reliable source" is probably talking about this. Only a couple of idiots make up stuff and a few more idiots believe it. I've make nonsense rumours up for fun that are so ridiculous they'd never happen and got DMs from some people asking me for more details and if it's true lol.

I am talking about the Sports Telegraph Kris, not the Mirror, Sun, Star, Mail ....... back pages. That was trustworthy, many of us knew those reporters personally and they lived and drank locally. We talked to them at BP on a Saturday. Tabloids are always suspect. I used to get a good laugh out of the tabloid celeb columns ghost written like the programme notes from most managers. What you say is right but the wrong way round. Older people already have a pretty good idea what is a con in the press and know that digital media click bait is just a faster way of creating a rumour, the same thing that went on for ever in the tabloids. But you are far from the only one who makes things up for fun. The real fun is working out fact from fiction.

I used to love waiting for the Sports Telegraph to arrive in Mablethorpe on a Saturday night.  The only way to find out any details of a good away win or performance.  (I went to the home games),

Simple pleasures.  I remember reading about a special 5-2 away win at York when Stuart Brace scored a hat-trick.  

I got my mum to send on the Sports Telegraph and other footy clippings for 26 years when I joined the RAF and then moved from the area.  This was the best way in those days to keep up to date. Priceless info on GTFC.

IMO. the paper version is much better than the online one.
I read most of it but mainly for town and local sports news.
I buy it everyday and think most days it's good value for 70p and I would be disappointed if stopped.
Unfortunately I only skim the angling as I know very little about it.
Is it somebody Sturman or similar?

The last and only paper I've bought in the past 10 years was the non league one. It was quite a good read most weeks

I used to remember when the telegraph was a serious paper but when you get excrement like this printed -

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/apology-sortland-norway-christmas-tree-2302196
Then you know the end cannot be far away.

Interesting to note that the clown editor who wrote this crap is also the editor of the Scunthorpe paper🤔

Is that a genuine article on the site? What the intercourse. I don't use foul language on here too often but seriously.. 'dead good' I used to say that when I was 5.

We still get the Telegraph delivered because my wife likes to read it but I would cancel it if it was just for me, I get all my Town info/news through iFollow and NewsNow these days.

Quoted from Cod Cheeks

IMO. the paper version is much better than the online one.
I read most of it but mainly for town and local sports news.
I buy it everyday and think most days it's good value for 70p and I would be disappointed if stopped.
Unfortunately I only skim the angling as I know very little about it.
Is it somebody Sturman or similar?

Sturgeon perhaps?

Quoted from Cloudy

Sturgeon perhaps?

Only in the Scottish edition.

Quoted from Cod Cheeks

IMO. the paper version is much better than the online one.
I read most of it but mainly for town and local sports news.
I buy it everyday and think most days it's good value for 70p and I would be disappointed if stopped.
Unfortunately I only skim the angling as I know very little about it.
Is it somebody Sturman or similar?

It's Burman.....I used to live next door to his parents in Cleethorpes.

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

Mainly buy it for Geoff Fords column on a Friday. Other than that, I only occasionally buy it.

I buy it to see if I'm in the deaths column, if I'm not I
carry on as usual.

I do buy it most days, although I tend to spoil it by looking on the website and knowing much of the news. I like the classifides, the local sport, property guide, but I find a lot of the articles which are no doubt written for the group, have prices for wines, goods, clothes etc which are not applicable to most people in our area, including me.

When we first moved to Suffolk I had the sports telegraph delivered every week,

It arrived on a Monday and kept me in touch with what was happening footy wise.

We use to ask the family to save their telegraphs and when we popped up we use to take about 3 months supply to read at our leisure for when we got back here.

Now I read on line and use adblocker which makes reading it a lot easier.

Quoted from Grim74

I used to remember when the telegraph was a serious paper but when you get excrement like this printed -

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/apology-sortland-norway-christmas-tree-2302196
Then you know the end cannot be far away.

Interesting to note that the clown editor who wrote this crap is also the editor of the Scunthorpe paper🤔

But this is typical of most local papers now Grim. The GT is no worse and no better than any other, especially the ones owned by the Mirror Group. The sad thing is that people seem prepared to accept it, I mean professional people within the industry. There was an advert at Archant for junior and senior reporters on the Suffolk papers the other week and the qualifications required did not even mention any qualification or ability to use English at all. Everything was about experience in data journalism and using social media sources. Most of the GT is written these days as though the reporter is sending an email to a mate, there seems to be very little pride in presentation.

Quoted from Grim74

I used to remember when the telegraph was a serious paper but when you get excrement like this printed -

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/apology-sortland-norway-christmas-tree-2302196
Then you know the end cannot be far away.

Interesting to note that the clown editor who wrote this crap is also the editor of the Scunthorpe paper🤔

Yeah and you know what? I blame capitalism. Suck it up. Free marketise everything and the weak go the wall, and the strong and the greedy thrive, and that's that. Advertising revenue and profit is everything. Watch the standards slip as money is strangled. You like that model, so you've no real place complaining.

Quoted from chaos33

Yeah and you know what? I blame capitalism. Suck it up. Free marketise everything and the weak go the wall, and the strong and the greedy thrive, and that's that. Advertising revenue and profit is everything. Watch the standards slip as money is strangled. You like that model, so you've no real place complaining.

Oh yeah bring on Jeremy Corbyn and a state controlled Press.....we could be like a Turkey 👏🏼