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Tommy
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Summerfield is hardly bossing the midfield, he's anonymous, passing backwards or sideways when he does get the ball.  Useless at set pieces, a team with Summerfield in, is never going to score many goals.


This is where a bias takes over.

You must've ignored all the forward passes and only chosen to notice the sideways/backwards passes, that are often the right decision to keep possession. They just nearly scored from a Summerfield free kick too for a bit more balance.


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That's the first of all the corners and free kicks that has had a positive effect. The rest of the match he been ineffectual.
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a player or even a team hit every set piece in a match exactly where they want them to go. Isn’t it something daft like 2% of corners result in a goal?
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a player or even a team hit every set piece in a match exactly where they want them to go. Isn’t it something daft like 2% of corners result in a goal?


Probably...but thats where Cambridge, Watford, Wimbledon, Lincoln just adapted their style to play for corners and set pieces....up the number you get and the likelehood you will score increases...playing the percentages.
I think the analyst. that Graham Taylor based his approach on had presented the case that most goals were scored with no more than 3 prior touches for the team.


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Probably...but thats where Cambridge, Watford, Wimbledon, Lincoln just adapted their style to play for corners and set pieces....up the number you get and the likelehood you will score increases...playing the percentages.
I think the analyst. that Graham Taylor based his approach on had presented the case that most goals were scored with no more than 3 prior touches for the team.


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Yep, which led to a great example of the law of unintended consequences as managers such as Taylor looked at the surface of the stats and decided that it meant the best way to score was to get it into the opposition box as quickly as possible, which led to decades of HOOFball in England.

I'd say our recent tactics of 11 men in the box to defend set pieces is a similar example of looking at the stats but not the wider view. You'll never persuade me that getting everyone back instead of leaving one or two players further upfield is the best way to defend them.
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Yep, which led to a great example of the law of unintended consequences as managers such as Taylor looked at the surface of the stats and decided that it meant the best way to score was to get it into the opposition box as quickly as possible, which led to decades of HOOFball in England.

I'd say our recent tactics of 11 men in the box to defend set pieces is a similar example of looking at the stats but not the wider view. You'll never persuade me that getting everyone back instead of leaving one or two players further upfield is the best way to defend them.


Me neither.....just having a single player up would occupy at least 2 opposition and give us a fighting chance of preventing the ball coming straight back.


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