Accy showing the way

Quoted from pen penfras

Well that's not hard to calculate, they are part of a holding company with Andy Holt's other businesses that turn over more than £50 million a year. Makes it kind of hypocritical that he criticises Salford for putting money in, yet he does the same thing at Accy but in a different way.

That's a great gesture that they've made. We can only speculate as to whether that will ultimately bring more money in or not, it certainly gets them some positive press. Would our club be given the same praise if they did that though? Everything is met with such cynicism on here that I expect it would be comments along the lines of "Fenty's trying to pull the wool over our eyes" and "it's a token gesture". Anything the club does that is good seems to get this kind of response and MJ has been credited with good things that clearly are nothing to do with him.

After nearly 2 decades of shitte the current regime should be grateful the fans still come in good numbers , the only thing we have got to be proud of is the fans

Quoted from pen penfras

Well that's not hard to calculate, they are part of a holding company with Andy Holt's other businesses that turn over more than £50 million a year. Makes it kind of hypocritical that he criticises Salford for putting money in, yet he does the same thing at Accy but in a different way.

That's a great gesture that they've made. We can only speculate as to whether that will ultimately bring more money in or not, it certainly gets them some positive press. Would our club be given the same praise if they did that though? Everything is met with such cynicism on here that I expect it would be comments along the lines of "Fenty's trying to pull the wool over our eyes" and "it's a token gesture". Anything the club does that is good seems to get this kind of response and MJ has been credited with good things that clearly are nothing to do with him.

Not quite the truth but a good try to discredit a chairman who seems to have got virtual universal approval for his openess from fans up and down the country.
The sponsorship of the Accrington Stadium by What More UK (Holts company) is not huge but it is money coming into their club  and certainly nowhere near the sum of the benign loans around the neck of GTFC.

I agree to an extent that most of what Fenty may say is treated by many with scepticim but i will just ask the question, Why do you think that maybe? Seems apt 1 year on from that disgraceful night !!

The figures are just income though, not profit. Once the cost of purchasing the food and drink is deducted it would be interesting to see what they have left as gross profit before running costs are deducted.

Quoted from pen penfras

That's a great gesture that they've made. We can only speculate as to whether that will ultimately bring more money in or not, it certainly gets them some positive press. Would our club be given the same praise if they did that though? Everything is met with such cynicism on here that I expect it would be comments along the lines of "Fenty's trying to pull the wool over our eyes" and "it's a token gesture". Anything the club does that is good seems to get this kind of response and MJ has been credited with good things that clearly are nothing to do with him.

Absolute shite. People are judged on their actions and Holt is given the benefit of the doubt as he’s demonstrably open and honest with the best interests of the fans at heart. Fenty, on the other hand is a duplicitous, arrogant crank and has spent almost 2 decades mastering the art of ignoring fans and reducing us merely to numbers on a balance sheet.

The bloke could write the book on how to ruin relationships between a club and its fans - he actively pushed the only decent channel for engagement, in Kristine Green as SLO, out of the role and replaced her with a fuccking yes-man who can’t do the job!

Is there actually any evidence that Accrington, top half of League 1 on 2,000 gates, is being run better than Grimsby, near the bottom of League 2 on 4,000 gates?

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Is there actually any evidence that Accrington, top half of League 1 on 2,000 gates, is being run better than Grimsby, near the bottom of League 2 on 4,000 gates?

Evidence in bold!

Cheers Timsky. I feel like a fool now.

Quoted from pen penfras

Well that's not hard to calculate, they are part of a holding company with Andy Holt's other businesses that turn over more than £50 million a year. Makes it kind of hypocritical that he criticises Salford for putting money in, yet he does the same thing at Accy but in a different way.

That's a great gesture that they've made. We can only speculate as to whether that will ultimately bring more money in or not, it certainly gets them some positive press. Would our club be given the same praise if they did that though? Everything is met with such cynicism on here that I expect it would be comments along the lines of "Fenty's trying to pull the wool over our eyes" and "it's a token gesture". Anything the club does that is good seems to get this kind of response and MJ has been credited with good things that clearly are nothing to do with him.

Being pragmatic, anyone could hardly blame the fans of GTFC for being cynics after the sheer mediocrity of the past twenty years surely? We have been more than patient and treated with contempt at times. The truth is, after all of this time, the relationship between fans and the owner is completely broken. It's time that everyone has to accept the fact, especially in the boardroom. Once accepted, if he loves the club, the incumbent should be moving heaven and earth to find his replacement. It's not like he learns from his mistakes. After sixteen years of him in charge, only a year ago, we had the farce that was the Fan's Forum. Cynicism works both ways, and as much as the fans are cynics of the board, the board are equally as cynical of the fans. It's a relationship that needs replacing rather than trying to be fixed if this club is to ever move forward..

Quoted from pen penfras

Well that's not hard to calculate, they are part of a holding company with Andy Holt's other businesses that turn over more than £50 million a year. Makes it kind of hypocritical that he criticises Salford for putting money in, yet he does the same thing at Accy but in a different way.

That's a great gesture that they've made. We can only speculate as to whether that will ultimately bring more money in or not, it certainly gets them some positive press. Would our club be given the same praise if they did that though? Everything is met with such cynicism on here that I expect it would be comments along the lines of "Fenty's trying to pull the wool over our eyes" and "it's a token gesture". Anything the club does that is good seems to get this kind of response and MJ has been credited with good things that clearly are nothing to do with him.

Rewind 12 months to the Fans' Forum and you might get a fairly good idea as to why that might be the case.