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Didn't the lad on twitter who guessed we had the 3rd lowest playing budget and is a bit of a sleuth/expert on club financesactually praise the club for the open ness of our accounts as opposed to most other clubs?
With respect forza I don’t give two hoots about other clubs, I am talking about our club and feel the club/board should engage far more with fans ( that wouldn’t be difficult). Our published accounts are more detailed simply because we are a PLC and most other lower league football clubs are not |
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| MuddyWaters |
| November 20, 2018, 7:28pm |
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Didn't the lad on twitter who guessed we had the 3rd lowest playing budget and is a bit of a sleuth/expert on club financesactually praise the club for the open ness of our accounts as opposed to most other clubs?
Transparency of the accounts is standard for a PLC - truth is that our customer service makes Ryanair look good. |
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| lukeo |
| November 20, 2018, 9:21pm |
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I never used to use twitter but came across their chairman (Andy) on it.. He is genuinely the only reason I go on twitter now. Decent bloke, replies to as much of his messages he can, open, honest and accy Stanley runs in his blood.
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| MuddyWaters |
| November 20, 2018, 9:51pm |
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Well we just released our financial results for the season. Why should we do it on a game by game basis? No other club does and a token gesture of half the information from Accrington Stanley is not a stick worth beating the club with.
Perhaps you can get your abacus out and calculate how Accy have also managed to give out 1200 free first team shirts to primary school kids in their area too? It's called engaging with the community - maybe we ought to try it? |
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| lukeo |
| November 20, 2018, 10:43pm |
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Perhaps you can get your abacus out and calculate how Accy have also managed to give out 1200 free first team shirts to primary school kids in their area too?
It's called engaging with the community - maybe we ought to try it?
This. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this.. They got local newspapers and radio stations involved to. Short term its probably cost the club a small fortune but actually long term even if out of 1,200 of those kids 100 become Stanley fans and go from time to time and 50 become regulars for a very long time plus anyone who sees the 'publicity stunt' and falls in love. They'll make any money back they 'lost' in doing what they've done. |
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| KingstonMariner |
| November 20, 2018, 11:27pm |
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Forza, the fact our accounts are compliant doesn't mean they're the acme of transparency. Obviously we have to be careful about the need for genuine commercial confidentiality and advantage.
Maybe the judicious use of reliable information (and not JF's half member explanations) might help put the challenges the club faces into perspective and win more patience and understanding. But smoke and mirrors seems to be the preferred modus operandi.
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| 1mickylyons |
| November 21, 2018, 7:24am |
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You can take rough numbers from that to extrapolate what we make per match.
Accy have about 1100 season tickets from what I can find in articles. So that means ticket income for 3700 extra people at about £12.30 each. Then the rest of the income averages about £3.40 each. This is before all the costs are taken out, so profit is much lower, particularly for the food, beer, programmes etc.
We have 3000 season ticket sales and average about 4300? (my guess). So using Accy's numbers:
1300 tickets sold per game = £16k per game = £365k per season.
4300 people spending £3.40 per game = £14.5k per game = £335k per season.
Just an observation and you may disagree but the GTFC Club shop seems to do a roaring trade most matchdays on merchandise. No idea what Accy have but I bet Town dwarf them on merchandise sales game by game and over a Season?
Not sure how we compare, perhaps referencing the accounts might give some idea. Their ticket prices are higher than ours, so I imagine we're actually lower than that.
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| November 21, 2018, 7:28am |
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This. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this.. They got local newspapers and radio stations involved to. Short term its probably cost the club a small fortune but actually long term even if out of 1,200 of those kids 100 become Stanley fans and go from time to time and 50 become regulars for a very long time plus anyone who sees the 'publicity stunt' and falls in love. They'll make any money back they 'lost' in doing what they've done.
A great set of fans .We played them first home game of Buckley`s 3rd stint and I got talking to a couple who were setting out their flags in the Osmond corner (more flags than fans) they were thrilled to have made it back to the league. A few year`s later I knew the feeling myself when Arnold got the goal vs FGR. I for one am delighted for those Accy fans who stuck it out and never let the club die. |
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| lukeo |
| November 21, 2018, 7:35am |
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A great set of fans .We played them first home game of Buckley`s 3rd stint and I got talking to a couple who were setting out their flags in the Osmond corner (more flags than fans) they were thrilled to have made it back to the league. A few year`s later I knew the feeling myself when Arnold got the goal vs FGR. I for one am delighted for those Accy fans who stuck it out and never let the club die.
I've not spoken to them for a few years but I used to go across to Accrington if Grimsby didn't have a game until I moved south. The ultras are actually decent bunch of people who just have a passion for their club. I managed to get to Plymouth away 2 years ago and it was still the same decent bunch. Always welcome outsiders in... Anyone remember Accy v Barnet? 100 Town fans in the Clayton End. |
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| pen penfras |
| November 21, 2018, 7:53am |
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Perhaps you can get your abacus out and calculate how Accy have also managed to give out 1200 free first team shirts to primary school kids in their area too?
It's called engaging with the community - maybe we ought to try it?
Well that's not hard to calculate, they are part of a holding company with Andy Holt's other businesses that turn over more than £50 million a year. Makes it kind of hypocritical that he criticises Salford for putting money in, yet he does the same thing at Accy but in a different way. That's a great gesture that they've made. We can only speculate as to whether that will ultimately bring more money in or not, it certainly gets them some positive press. Would our club be given the same praise if they did that though? Everything is met with such cynicism on here that I expect it would be comments along the lines of "Fenty's trying to pull the wool over our eyes" and "it's a token gesture". Anything the club does that is good seems to get this kind of response and MJ has been credited with good things that clearly are nothing to do with him. |
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