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November 11, 2018, 10:00pm
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When we talk about giving managers time, let us not forget that when Sir Alan Buckley fist took over he had the same sort of performances as Jolley is getting now. Fans were calling for his head but we stuck with Sir Alan, and the rest, as they say is history.

As for Bignot, it was clear early on that he didn't have a clue and was out of his depth. He also came out with some rubbish after games and often contradicted himself. You could see that it was never going to work for him. As for Sir Alan and Jolley you can see some improvements and a little bit of good football in with inconsistency, Nothing that time and hard work can't fix. That's the difference between them.
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Completely agree James but unfortunately we are just one bad spell from the usual crowd calling for his head and putting pressure on him or more likely the  board to make a knee jerk decision and we are back to square one. I firmly believe we have a good one in Michael Jolley but he needs time. And by time i mean at least another 16 months. My hope for this season is to not get in a position of danger of relegation. I just wish others on this forum would be as patient.


Are this board really known for knee jerk decisions? Hurst had lots of time to achieve what was wanted and there were plenty of fans with knee jerk reactions that wanted him gone. Slade got given lots of time to turn it around, but was unable to and the decision had to be made, but it certainly wasn't knee jerk. If anything, I'd say the board have been a little bit too patient, Slade should have gone earlier although it ultimately didn't cost us relegation.

The only "knee jerk" reaction I can think of is Bignot, but if the rumours of what he was doing are true, which it seems likely that they are given his dismissal, then it was the correct decision to me.
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We are on a journey with Mr jolley ,we need the patience to see it through , if we do in the near future dispence with Mr jolleys services expect the likes of Brown or Slade to take over and i for one do not want to return to the jobs for mates , old boys retirement home , wage thieves and journeyman roulette of their style of management , it will come good under the current management but not over night .
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In recent games we have had spells where we have played some good football. Trouble at this level is you have to earn the right to play football. I hope we can stick with Jolley because in another 2/3 transfer windows we could have a great team, playing some good football with at least another youth graduate in there too.


Agree completely.
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It’s roundabout time again. Yes,given 6 years Jolley might achieve something good. What do the fans do in the meantime? Sit and nod sagely during the bad spells and say “Don’t worry lads, only another 5 years to go and we’ll be in the playoffs”?

Unless Jolley gets some money from somewhere neither he nor anyone else is going to shift the club forwards in 6 months, 6 years or 60 years no matter how many wise men tell us to be patient.

Accrington won (again) at the weekend and one very pertinent comment was made by some pundit on the telly - Andy Holt the owner restructured the club and this gave John Coleman more financial freedom. If they can do this sort of thing why cannot we?

The money Accrington got from the sell off clause on Brett Ormerod was the thing that got them moving. Buckley’s sale of Andy Tillson to QPR for a massive sum in those days of 1990 was what gave him the cash to make things happen faster and better and keep a side together. We have seen good transfer money come in during the past 2 - 3 seasons but where has it gone? If it really has gone to managers we have seen precious little for it on the pitch and we are back in the land of hoping Jolley plays youngsters and moaning that no-one wants to come here.

I am not anti-Jolley. He could come good. But he has no more chance than Slade, Brown or anyone else while his finances are so tied up that even if he sold someone for £2m he would not get more than a tenth back to spend.


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Neal Ardley left as AFC Wimbledon manager today by 'mutual consent'
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And Askey has left Shrewsbury.


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And Askey has left Shrewsbury.


Just read their forums, alot of them dead against having hurst back, not sure what the backstory to that is
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Just read their forums, alot of them dead against having hurst back, not sure what the backstory to that is


He was negotiating his Ipswich switch behind the owner’s back, allegedly. Then he went back for Nolan & Toto.



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Hurst left Boston under dubious circumstances , left us behind a cover of smoke and mirrors (Doig knew nothing by the way) so what did the shrews expect when it comes to loyalty money really does talk especially for Hursty .
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