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ginnywings
November 9, 2018, 12:35pm

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Take that Kilmarnock, you cheapskates.
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You're so contradictory with what you want. From one minute with we need to spend more money to attract better players and then Fenty's benign loans are crippling the club the next. It can't be both ways, there are ways to get more money coming in that we haven't looked at, but they're not going to bring in millions that the sugar daddy's of Mansfield and Scunthorpe are putting in to their club's.

It's easy to sit behind a computer and beat a drum about how we could make more money. And in fairness, the club haven't done enough to try and explore other avenues from what I can see. But there's not a huge pile of money we're missing out on, we don't have the facilities to do a lot of things that other clubs do. I can't see how our income could be much more than 5% higher through non matchday income and getting more through the gate. Results is what will bring more people in, but that's too big a gamble to break the bank and hope that you get results, it just doesn't work that way.

You mention 6 clubs in that post. 2 have sugar daddies, 3 are on the outskirts of major metropolitan cities and Crewe are almost as sh1t as we are.


If you were to time travel back to the days of Buckley Mk 1 for example, the same arguments you use would apply then. So, how exactly did we manage to escape extinction? If you go back to the days of McMenemy the same things applied then. How did we attract and pay for the likes of Hubbard and Chatterley when we were in the old 4th/3rd divisions? We had no big sugar daddies then and noTV cash either.

We know we are at the end of the world in Grimsby. We know there are conurbations with lots of clubs and population elsewhere but not here. We know there are parts of the area that are not very nice and we know we don’t get a good press. But those things were just as true in 1970, 1980 ..... and we attracted the likes of Wymark, Nichol and Birtles . The difference is that now we cry about them and some folks make it sound as if there is no hope of ever.attracting anyone decent ever again and there is no escape. It’s like Kenneth Williams “They’ve all got it infamy!”

If JF wanted to find more investment for players there are ways he could try to do that. There are ways for someone else to do it too if he was to do the decent thing and fall on his flagpole. But sitting at a keyboard and wailing about other clubs having sugar daddies and crowd potential that we can’t have is no help to anyone.

The other side of course is that the club has actually had some windfalls from transfers in the past two seasons but where has that money gone? If it has gone into the playing budget then let’s be honest this management team has wasted a fair amount of cash on players who struggle to stay fit let alone play the pressing and attacking game Jolley promised us in pre-season. For the past few years in non-league and L2 we have had quantity over quality and managers more afraid of losing than they are interested in winning. The exception might be Bignot for all his undoubted faults. But the over-caution maybe reflects the attitude of the owner as much as the managers.

To my mind we have to keep pressing for a change of attitude from this “be patient” claptrap and keep pushing for positivity and ambition on the park either with or without Mr Fenty.


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November 9, 2018, 1:07pm

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According to Kieran Maguire, we have one of the lowest budgets in the league. This data was compiled using 2016/17 data from the 76 UK clubs that publish their data. Only Morecambe and Accrington pay less. The accounts for 2017/18 show an increase in wages but I'd attribute that to paying off Slade and Wilkinson.

Taken on wages alone, you could say that if Town avoid relegation, we will be punching above our weight. Horrible, but that is how far we have fallen. It also should serve as a wakeup call for anyone over-critical of Jolley.

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I can't see any mention of salaries in Accrington's accounts. The holding company, 0404 investments, does have salaries of the entire company and it looks like he has divided the ratio of employees into the ratio of salaries. Since the holding company has a turnover of over 50 million, I expect there's some high earners in there and the number isn't entirely accurate. Unless I missed it.
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November 9, 2018, 1:18pm

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According to Kieran Maguire, we have one of the lowest budgets in the league. This data was compiled using 2016/17 data from the 76 UK clubs that publish their data. Only Morecambe and Accrington pay less. The accounts for 2017/18 show an increase in wages but I'd attribute that to paying off Slade and Wilkinson.

Taken on wages alone, you could say that if Town avoid relegation, we will be punching above our weight. Horrible, but that is how far we have fallen. It also should serve as a wakeup call for anyone over-critical of Jolley.

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Crewe's salary also includes the holding company staff, of which doesn't seem to be a huge amount more income vs the football club, but there are 84 employees listed as management and 26 as admin, which it seems hard to believe are all involved in the football club's affairs. Also worth noting that they lost about £600k on that £3M budget whilst finishing only just above us.
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November 9, 2018, 1:21pm

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Blackpool lost £2.2M for that period, hardly sustainable or what we want for GTFC
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November 9, 2018, 1:29pm

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Carlisle have over 100 more non football staff in their salary than GTFC. That must take up a big chunk of the £1M.

Nothing I'm seeing is suggesting our playing budget is signifcantly lower than anybody else, except Blackpool who lost a lot of money.
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He who cutteth the cloth spends the budget wisely because we don't have too many birds in the bushes with the kind of cash required. What we need is Aladdin and his magic lamp. A lot of the teams in our division make out they are doing well but all that glistens is not gold. I think everything will turn out o.k.Not every cloud has a silver lining but keep looking over the horizon and ours will be there We haven't had much to cheer us up since Slade was sacked but he who laughs last laughs loudest.
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