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I think the club did have a financial plan in place based on some housing and retail built on land away from PP that the council had put forward to develop but then pulled the plug on the option further down the line making the club go back to the drawing board again. until the council commit the land to GTFC they cannot put planning in and that was never going to happen.
As stated in another post why would the club want to move the ground only to have exactly the same facilities as they have now with no space to expand or further none match day revenue.
I get the impression that you have never questioned anything your match day passengers tell you. JF has a long established habit of expressing opinion as fact. Dig a little, do some research and quite often you will find it is hogwash. Others have done so, and that is a primary reason why we have had TWO failed ground moves. I would hate to guess how much of these costs are wrapped up in the benign loans? John has demonstated that he is great with smoke and mirrors, fantastic at pointing fingers of blame but frankly extremely light on any action or result. I have great hope for the regeneration of out Town, it needs many groups to pull together positively, but when virtually the clubs opening line is to sling mud I fear we will yet again be led up the garden path to nowhere. Change the board, gets some people who see challenges not negatives, and maybe, just maybe we could deliver
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I get the impression that you have never questioned anything your match day passengers tell you. JF has a long established habit of expressing opinion as fact. Dig a little, do some research and quite often you will find it is hogwash. Others have done so, and that is a primary reason why we have had TWO failed ground moves. I would hate to guess how much of these costs are wrapped up in the benign loans?
John has demonstated that he is great with smoke and mirrors, fantastic at pointing fingers of blame but frankly extremely light on any action or result.
I have great hope for the regeneration of out Town, it needs many groups to pull together positively, but when virtually the clubs opening line is to sling mud I fear we will yet again be led up the garden path to nowhere.
Change the board, gets some people who see challenges not negatives, and maybe, just maybe we could deliver
We carry on going round in circles with the same people conveniently forgetting how long this 'new ground' has been on the cards. Councillor Oxby has stated today that his belief is that Peaks Parkway is off the table - hopefully, that's a clear message to JF and the board that NELC hold the cards on this, whether he likes it or not.
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So back to the original title, I assume we are in dept (oops sorry, benign loan) of another £36k to Mr Fenty. What would we do without him, yet again he has saved our club.
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So back to the original title, I assume we are in dept (oops sorry, benign loan) of another £36k to Mr Fenty. What would we do without him, yet again he has saved our club.
The club has an overdraft which Mr Fenty guarantees, so no need to increase the benign loans. I'm fairly sure the accounts last year had more than enough cash to cover this fairly small loss.
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I think the club did have a financial plan in place based on some housing and retail built on land away from PP that the council had put forward to develop but then pulled the plug on the option further down the line making the club go back to the drawing board again. until the council commit the land to GTFC they cannot put planning in and that was never going to happen.
As stated in another post why would the club want to move the ground only to have exactly the same facilities as they have now with no space to expand or further none match day revenue.
You mean the new ground could be built with shitty bogs, decrepid stands and look a dump?
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The club has an overdraft which Mr Fenty guarantees, so no need to increase the benign loans. I'm fairly sure the accounts last year had more than enough cash to cover this fairly small loss.
As you seem to be clarifying things, would it be possible to reduce the 'loan account' whilst still making a loss?
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As you seem to be clarifying things, would it be possible to reduce the 'loan account' whilst still making a loss?
Yes, it would be possible. Are you accusing somebody of something without any facts? That'd be a shock on the fishy.
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Yes, it would be possible.
Are you accusing somebody of something without any facts? That'd be a shock on the fishy.
Not at all. I asked if it would be possible. I've learned to get my facts right.
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A new stadium wouldn't have the same facilities though would it? A better matchday experience all round should be delivered for a start. Renewed pride in our club should deliver at least 2-3k on home attendance bringong in an extra million or so for playing budget, better football, more fans etc, etc. Plus there will still be real estate within the structure of the stands to boost extra revenue which can't be developed at BP. Better dining facilities, exec box experiences, so much more. Even renting out part of the structure for council offices or similar, there's a multitude of income streams that can be driven from the footprint of a new stadium compared to what BP can offer at present. So no, moving grounds wouldn't have exactly the same facilities as a decrepit football ground that's way past its sell by date. All we've got at BP is an outdated McMenemys, club bars, outsourcied crapp catering and a club shop. So much more could be done within the boundaries of a new stadium without the current penalty of maintenance costs. Other clubs have hotels, supermarkets etc to help with enabling costs. Any step from BP would be a step up. If there's compromises the club has to make to fund the new stadium the rewards will still be far greater than staying where we are..
There is currently 1 disabled toilet in the disabled area which is not under cover and those who watch have the pitch at eye level. This disabled toilet also doubles as a female toilet which I believe puts the total number of toilets for women in the Main Stand to three? Men on the other hand have world class facilities where they urine in to a trough the urine openly falls out the bottom into an open channel which then goes down the drain. A 94 year old isn’t able to have a disabled car parking space at the ground and needs to walk from the Main Stand to th corner of The Imperial pub to be picked up by his companion who runs back to his car and drives back to pick him up. Turn it in pal.
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Yes, it would be possible.
Are you accusing somebody of something without any facts? That'd be a shock on the fishy.
Wasn't he just asking a question?
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