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MuddyWaters
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So according to the Fishy the council are OK to string the club along for years forcing the club to spend allot of money on feasibility studies and the like on a site the council proposed and to use a developer the council insisted on to only pull the rug from under them years down the line as a site they probably always want the club to use comes available,
The council have no funding for this just a big piece of land in a run down area and no plan of how to fund it and some say this is an olive branch, The redevelopment and regeneration  fund spouted around has already been confirmed that it can not be used to build a stadium.  
Sorry the club just cant win


And what have they done to make it win? Why can't we have some clarity from the club about Extreme's role? Have they been removed from the process? You know, a bit of honesty could go a long way.
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And what have they done to make it win? Why can't we have some clarity from the club about Extreme's role? Have they been removed from the process? You know, a bit of honesty could go a long way.


Egg  on face springs to mind
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Can't be long before the "fans forum" if it is to be held at the end of November.....same as last year.

Could be another humdinger with all that isn't happening at GTFC.


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I think the council and the club are doing tonnes of stuff already regarding Freemo. Just because it’s not in the telegraph or on the fishy doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. The negativity on here is really frustrating but a sad fact of life in this town I’ve found.

I’m still hugely confident we will be playing Championship football at a new community stadium down Freemo within the next 5 years.


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Hang on a sec Rob. It was nearly two years ago that the council invited planning to be presented for Peaks Parkway and the club have done nothing about it because they haven't got the necessary funds. It's the club who have failed to attract inward investment for years and years and we all know the reasons why. If the council are prepared to offer land for a new stadium to be built at East Marsh, the club need to find ways to raise 20-25m to build it and not necessarily by way of enabling projects or borrowing. It's just that our board haven't got the contacts or ability to do it so should step aside. It's about the future of GTFC and that shouldn't be constrained by the lack of talent, contacts or empathy for others that we have currently in the boardroom. Fans fault, council's fault, always somebody else's fault. After all these years it's time for someone to hold their hands up and take resposibility for their actions and most notably inactions. After all they're the ones who've willingly took a vice like control of the club so should be fully accountable. If they can't deliver, it's time to step aside, because last time I looked we were called Grimsby Town FC not John Fenty FC and there will be people out there far better equipped to solve the job in hand..


I think the club did have a financial plan in place based on some housing and retail built on land away from PP that  the council had put forward to develop but then pulled the plug on the option further down the line making the club go back to the drawing board again. until the council commit the land to GTFC they cannot put planning in and that was never going to happen.

As stated in another post why would the club want to move the ground only to have exactly the same facilities as they have now with no space to expand or further none match day revenue.
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I think the club did have a financial plan in place based on some housing and retail built on land away from PP that  the council had put forward to develop but then pulled the plug on the option further down the line making the club go back to the drawing board again. until the council commit the land to GTFC they cannot put planning in and that was never going to happen.

As stated in another post why would the club want to move the ground only to have exactly the same facilities as they have now with no space to expand or further none match day revenue.


A new stadium wouldn't have the same facilities though would it? A better matchday experience all round should be delivered for a start. Renewed pride in our club should deliver at least 2-3k on home attendance bringong in an extra million or so for playing budget, better football, more fans etc, etc. Plus there will still be real estate within the structure of the stands to boost extra revenue which can't be developed at BP. Better dining facilities, exec box experiences, so much more. Even renting out part of the structure for council offices or similar, there's a multitude of income streams that can be driven from the footprint of a new stadium compared to what BP can offer at present. So no, moving grounds wouldn't have exactly the same facilities as a decrepit football ground that's way past its sell by date. All we've got at BP is an outdated McMenemys, club bars, outsourcied crapp catering and a club shop. So much more could be done within the boundaries of a new stadium without the current penalty of maintenance costs. Other clubs have hotels, supermarkets etc to help with enabling costs. Any step from BP would be a step up. If there's compromises the club has to make to fund the new stadium the rewards will still be far greater than staying where we are..
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A new stadium wouldn't have the same facilities though would it? A better matchday experience all round should be delivered for a start. Renewed pride in our club should deliver at least 2-3k on home attendance bringong in an extra million or so for playing budget, better football, more fans etc, etc. Plus there will still be real estate within the structure of the stands to boost extra revenue which can't be developed at BP. Better dining facilities, exec box experiences, so much more. Even renting out part of the structure for council offices or similar, there's a multitude of income streams that can be driven from the footprint of a new stadium compared to what BP can offer at present. So no, moving grounds wouldn't have exactly the same facilities as a decrepit football ground that's way past its sell by date. All we've got at BP is an outdated McMenemys, club bars, outsourcied crapp catering and a club shop. So much more could be done within the boundaries of a new stadium without the current penalty of maintenance costs. Other clubs have hotels, supermarkets etc to help with enabling costs. Any step from BP would be a step up. If there's compromises the club has to make to fund the new stadium the rewards will still be far greater than staying where we are..


I agree moving anywhere would be a step up and have a better match day experience but the size of the land at Freemo would just fit a ground the exact same size as ours now and not any bigger, as 3 of our stands are not big enough to fit much more than a small bar in them whats the point,
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So according to the Fishy the council are OK to string the club along for years forcing the club to spend allot of money on feasibility studies and the like on a site the council proposed and to use a developer the council insisted on to only pull the rug from under them years down the line as a site they probably always want the club to use comes available,
The council have no funding for this just a big piece of land in a run down area and no plan of how to fund it and some say this is an olive branch, The redevelopment and regeneration  fund spouted around has already been confirmed that it can not be used to build a stadium.  
Sorry the club just cant win  


Rob do you have an evidence link to support the premise that the Regeneration money cannot be used to fund the building of a centre piece stadium?


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There's usually a link to the accounts when they are announced - can't see one anywhere!
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Rob do you have an evidence link to support the premise that the Regeneration money cannot be used to fund the building of a centre piece stadium?


No sorry  I cannot remember where I read  it online but  I was speaking to someone within NELC as part of my day job and they confirmed that the Regeneration money cannot be spent on the stadium direct as well.
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