Paul Hurst sacked (merged)

One of the main criticisms from Ipswich fans is that he kept making 5 or 6 changes per match and playing players out of position - square pegs in round holes
Seems strange if that is the case as I don’t remember either of those traits when he was our manager

A Shrewsbury fan said on the BBC site that Hurst would not be welcome back after the manner of his departure from Shrewsbury.  History repeating itself.

Another fan thanked Hurst for overpaying for Toto and Nolan:  “you buy div. 1 players, you get relegated”.

Ironically, both players nearly went up into the Championship with Shrewsbury.

Ipswich took a big gamble on Hurst who spent most of his time managing in NL.  What he achieved at Shrewsbury though was exceptional.  Div 1 is probably his level.  No shame in that.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

A Shrewsbury fan said on the BBC site that Hurst would not be welcome back after the manner of his departure from Shrewsbury.  History repeating itself.

Another fan thanked Hurst for overpaying for Toto and Nolan:  “you buy div. 1 players, you get relegated”.

Ironically, both players nearly went up into the Championship with Shrewsbury.

Ipswich took a big gamble on Hurst who spent most of his time managing in NL.  What he achieved at Shrewsbury though was exceptional.  Div 1 is probably his level.  No shame in that.

I think its more of a case of the right club as opposed to the right level....his not lose mentality will suit some clubs down to the ground, clubs looking to stabilise or clubs that are already playing above their level and looking to maintain it then he is your man, that could be L1 or Championship i think.... someone to hang your hat on to take you up the Leagues and get promotions....no.

Quoted from Abdul19

It must've been quite a few months as they'd been promoted 2 years previously

Jan 2014   ---    May  2016

When you are in your 70's Abdul time goes so much quicker than when you were young.

The the posts about our style of play are out it’s changed the ball is played out from the back.
Think we have 5 or 6 players left from last season,
The Cowleys don’t just use the same formula they evolve.
Everything has to evolve otherwise it goes backwards .
For example our trust was used as a social vehicle & was left to wither ,just been voted into it so I have to help them evolve & push forward,
Used to see how you all got your trust going and for me fan involvement is crucial.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Plenty of interesting comments on various social media about hurst / Doig not many supportive of them tbh from Ipswich fans. It appears they’ve been using the good cop bad cop routine with doigy offering players out allegedly , personally thought it was a step to far but fully expect to see them back on the merry go round by Xmas

I think I’ve been reading the same stuff. Supposedly Ipswich would’ve kept Hurst if he’d agreed to work with a new assistant.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Lets look at his record. most of those years were in non league,

His strengths were getting his players believing in him and the system he wanted to play,

His weaknesses were he could not connect with the fans,

Once he got to a level above his capabilities the players did not believe in him or his tactics,

He will be ok back in L2 or L1 but the championship was a step too far for him.

If you look at his interviews he was always chewing a wasp at Grimsby,

He had a big smile on his face at Shrewsbury,

He started off with a smile at Ipswich but reverted back to his Grimsby way towards the end,

I am sure like a lot of other managers at lower levels he will be in and out of work for a few years yet.

Maybe he should give Slade a ring and ask" what do you do while unemployed." ?

Dont fell sorry for him as he will be paid until he finds another job,

The good thing about having a 3 year contract is he will not have to take the first job on offer,

He can bide his time until the right postion becomes available.

Managers still get sacked in non-league.
He had two promotions in non-league prior to coming to us ( admittedly with Shouty at his side) and that is a good grounding for an up and coming manager. He is often criticised for taking 6 years to get us back into the league but two of those were with Shouty at his side. Promotion from non-league National to FL2 is very difficult with only 1 automatic place available. Admittedly some teams have bounced straight back but others have struggled - Luton , with all their financial clout ( compared to ours ) , took a similar time to get back into the league.
As a manager for us , I thought he was ok and achieved ( albeit eventually ) what he was hired to do , and that was to get us back into the ootbal league. I think his elevation to Championship level was a step too far for him at this stage in his career and he would have done better to have stayed at Shrewsbury and got them promoted. The fact was that he had the chance to go to Ipswich and took it - who wouldn't ? He was managing a higher status clubat a higher level and I would assume on a decent financial package. People with ambition do this and if it all goes wrong , so what. If you don't try then you will never know what you can achieve. There is so much schadenfreude aimed at him which I don't understand.  I also think some of those posters would adopt a different attitude if they were sacked from their jobs and then  were subjected to the same posts we have seen on this site aimed at PH.

Quoted from rancido

  I also think some of those posters would adopt a different attitude if they were sacked from their jobs and then  were subjected to the same posts we have seen on this site aimed at PH.

I think it might all hinge on whether I had a 3 generous year contract that was being paid up

Quoted from rancido

Managers still get sacked in non-league.
He had two promotions in non-league prior to coming to us ( admittedly with Shouty at his side) and that is a good grounding for an up and coming manager. He is often criticised for taking 6 years to get us back into the league but two of those were with Shouty at his side. Promotion from non-league National to FL2 is very difficult with only 1 automatic place available. Admittedly some teams have bounced straight back but others have struggled - Luton , with all their financial clout ( compared to ours ) , took a similar time to get back into the league.
As a manager for us , I thought he was ok and achieved ( albeit eventually ) what he was hired to do , and that was to get us back into the ootbal league. I think his elevation to Championship level was a step too far for him at this stage in his career and he would have done better to have stayed at Shrewsbury and got them promoted. The fact was that he had the chance to go to Ipswich and took it - who wouldn't ? He was managing a higher status clubat a higher level and I would assume on a decent financial package. People with ambition do this and if it all goes wrong , so what. If you don't try then you will never know what you can achieve. There is so much schadenfreude aimed at him which I don't understand.  I also think some of those posters would adopt a different attitude if they were sacked from their jobs and then  were subjected to the same posts we have seen on this site aimed at PH.

That's got to work both ways. If he counts those promotions with Ilkeston and Boston on his CV then he's got to have the "6 years to get us promoted" tag too.

I'm not saying the 6 years is definitely a criticism that should be levelled at him, it's one of those speculative subjects that we'll never know what someone else might have done in the job.

I do lean towards thinking a different/better manager might well have made more of what we had at that level. And a different approach might have done it sooner.

I don't blame PH one bit for taking the steps up that he has done in his career. What I think his failing has been at Ipswich is thinking the same approach he used here and at Shrewsbury would work again in the Championship, and failing to adapt.

Quoted from Ipswin

I think it might all hinge on whether I had a 3 generous year contract that was being paid up

Also I would not think the  first thing Hurst would do now he is unemployed on a very high salary is to read what we are talking about on the fishy..