Dear John

Dear John
I realise you are a busy man and must have a lot on your mind at the moment so I hope this doesn’t inconvenience you too much but I have something on my mind that is bothering me.
It is regarding the football club we both love so much. I don’t need to tell you that the Morecambe game was another disappointing day at Blundell Park, one that we are all too familiar with at this moment in time. Is that now 6 successive defeats and something like 5 wins in 20 at BP? I’m sure you’d agree that kind of record is going to test even the most ardent supporters.
Earlier this year you appointed the current manager after a disastrous set of results spelt the end for  Mr Slade.
Results now are very similar and many fans are wanting action , so my plea to you after the current set of results is do not pander to the same old voices, the same old moaners, the same old impatient guys that can’t wait to get to their keyboard when this situation arrives and even contemplate the sacking of Mr Jolley.
Results are bad,confidence is low but it is nowhere as bad as the early part of this year. I do believe you might have appointed a manager that we will be proud of given time. Please, please give him a chance  to prove himself he needs that time.

Hi Michael Jolley.

Quoted from davmariner

Hi Michael Jolley.

Nothing is to be gained from a change of manager now. There is no miracle worker in waiting and actually I feel Jolley knows his stuff. Its flipping atrocious at the moment but till someone gives me a viable alternative that will improve things, I think we stick it out. It's like those calling for Fenty to go. I am not a fan of him,but it's easy to kick off without offering solutions.

Quoted from MarinerWY

Nothing is to be gained from a change of manager now. There is no miracle worker in waiting and actually I feel Jolley knows his stuff. Its flipping atrocious at the moment but till someone gives me a viable alternative that will improve things, I think we stick it out. It's like those calling for Fenty to go. I am not a fan of him,but it's easy to kick off without offering solutions.

If that is the case, a couple of points if I may, one, why does he keep picking two of the mainstays of a shite team last year in Collins and Woolford and two, how come he let Mills go yet yesterday having a decent game he looked far better than any full back we have currently got.

Always thought Mills was a decent player we should not have let him go.

Quoted from MarinerWY

Nothing is to be gained from a change of manager now. There is no miracle worker in waiting and actually I feel Jolley knows his stuff. Its flipping atrocious at the moment but till someone gives me a viable alternative that will improve things, I think we stick it out. It's like those calling for Fenty to go. I am not a fan of him,but it's easy to kick off without offering solutions.

If JF upped and made a clean break from GTFC today and offered the club up at its actual market value, someone would fill the void, trust me. The problem is his demands and bloody-mindedness. If it took a week or month or two before anyone came in, we could seat a sack of spuds on the chairman's boardroom chair in the meantime. At least it would have no influence in making crass decision after crass decision. It is well known that JF is a laughing stock even within the corridors of BP. With the Town Deal floating around, there is no better time for JF to leave. He has absolutely nothing to offer to push this club forward. Have you been asleep for the past seventeen years?

Quoted from Bigdog

If JF upped and made a clean break from GTFC today and offered the club up at its actual market value, someone would fill the void, trust me. The problem is his demands and bloody-mindedness. If it took a week or month or two before anyone came in, we could seat a sack of spuds on the chairman's boardroom chair in the meantime.At least it would have no influence in making crass decision after crass decision. It is well known that JF is a laughing stock within the corridors of BP. With the Town Deal floating around, there is no better time for JF to leave. He has absolutely nothing to offer to push this club forward. Have you been asleep for the past seventeen years?

Again another good post that is hard to argue against.

Fenty has had a good run but he is just treading water has been for a long time. If he really loves this club he would step aside forget his benign loans and let a new board be formed.

A picture of the future of this town his slowly emerging and with vision and ambition, this new picture could include GTFC.

Fenty seems against this because it is NOT HIS plan.

Well J.F. maybe your time has come to step down you admit you are fed up with the hassle from people nothing lasts forever not even you.

Quoted from Bigdog

If JF upped and made a clean break from GTFC today and offered the club up at its actual market value, someone would fill the void, trust me. The problem is his demands and bloody-mindedness. If it took a week or month or two before anyone came in, we could seat a sack of spuds on the chairman's boardroom chair in the meantime.At least it would have no influence in making crass decision after crass decision. It is well known that JF is a laughing stock within the corridors of BP. With the Town Deal floating around, there is no better time for JF to leave. He has absolutely nothing to offer to push this club forward. Have you been asleep for the past seventeen years?

Sadly this isn’t true.
Most of them are his men (&women). They have been brainwashed into his way of thinking after years and years of doing things his way. Treating fans as ‘trouble’ and with suspicion, insisting that doing things the way they have always done them is the only way.
Staff and other Directors are with Fenty simply because they can’t be anything else. Anyone who has ever questioned him is ostracised and leave. They know that if Fenty ever left, their own positions would be questioned, reviewed and probably changed. A new broom would /should bring huge change to the way the club is run and a big shake up needed.
No need to discuss individuals but whoever is the person responsible for commercial income needs incentivising with targets and bonuses for increasing income. You go in the office, say on a Thursday morning and there are approx 8 full time staff doing diddlysquat. They may not be paid much but the operation needs streamlining and revolutionising to give value to money, rewarding for successful innovation, and above all be lead with someone who knows that fan engagement is vital and not treated as a dirty buzz word.
The board needs better composition. A marketing and PR professional, a sales person, a football man, to be at least alongside the professional accountant and solicitor.

Above all we desperately need change and new blood & ideas otherwise every manager will continue to live and breathe failure then is in the very fabric of BP

Quoted from thevera

Dear John
I realise you are a busy man and must have a lot on your mind at the moment so I hope this doesn’t inconvenience you too much but I have something on my mind that is bothering me.
It is regarding the football club we both love so much. I don’t need to tell you that the Morecambe game was another disappointing day at Blundell Park, one that we are all too familiar with at this moment in time. Is that now 6 successive defeats and something like 5 wins in 20 at BP? I’m sure you’d agree that kind of record is going to test even the most ardent supporters.
Earlier this year you appointed the current manager after a disastrous set of results spelt the end for  Mr Slade.
Results now are very similar and many fans are wanting action , so my plea to you after the current set of results is do not pander to the same old voices, the same old moaners, the same old impatient guys that can’t wait to get to their keyboard when this situation arrives and even contemplate the sacking of Mr Jolley.
Results are bad,confidence is low but it is nowhere as bad as the early part of this year. I do believe you might have appointed a manager that we will be proud of given time. Please, please give him a chance  to prove himself he needs that time.

I guess I'm impatient, I guess I'm a moaner but I did and still do want MJ to be successful. Problem is that the players don't seem to be with him. There was a collective thumbs up to most of his signings but, for some reason, it isn't working. How long should that be allowed to continue?

I'm surprised that the John Fenty 'managers only get 6 games' quote hasn't really been quoted much since last evening but, in reality, how much further can we go with a management team that isn't even treading water? Do you want another 6 year stint in the non-league?

I personally think he should get another month but, at present, it shows no sign of getting any better.

Those mentioning Zak Mills, did you see Embleton’s goal yesterday? That’s why we let him go.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Those mentioning Zak Mills, did you see Embleton’s goal yesterday? That’s why we let him go.

Very true - back-pedalled just like he'd been to Danny Collins back-pedalling school.

Quoted from Cloudy

Sadly this isn’t true.
Most of them are his men (&women). They have been brainwashed into his way of thinking after years and years of doing things his way. Treating fans as ‘trouble’ and with suspicion, insisting that doing things the way they have always done them is the only way.
Staff and other Directors are with Fenty simply because they can’t be anything else. Anyone who has ever questioned him is ostracised and leave. They know that if Fenty ever left, their own positions would be questioned, reviewed and probably changed. A new broom would /should bring huge change to the way the club is run and a big shake up needed.
No need to discuss individuals but whoever is the person responsible for commercial income needs incentivising with targets and bonuses for increasing income. You go in the office, say on a Thursday morning and there are approx 8 full time staff doing diddlysquat. They may not be paid much but the operation needs streamlining and revolutionising to give value to money, rewarding for successful innovation, and above all be lead with someone who knows that fan engagement is vital and not treated as a dirty buzz word.
The board needs better composition. A marketing and PR professional, a sales person, a football man, to be at least alongside the professional accountant and solicitor.

Above all we desperately need change and new blood & ideas otherwise every manager will continue to live and breathe failure then is in the very fabric of BP

There's people I know who are trying to do good things for the club that think JF is a laughing stock and try to avoid involving him. Everything else you say I completely agree with you. "Project Poundland Football League Club" built on fear and a total lack of ability and acumen and not even backed up by a single penny..

Quoted from thevera

Dear John
I realise you are a busy man and must have a lot on your mind at the moment so I hope this doesn’t inconvenience you too much but I have something on my mind that is bothering me.
It is regarding the football club we both love so much. I don’t need to tell you that the Morecambe game was another disappointing day at Blundell Park, one that we are all too familiar with at this moment in time. Is that now 6 successive defeats and something like 5 wins in 20 at BP? I’m sure you’d agree that kind of record is going to test even the most ardent supporters.
Earlier this year you appointed the current manager after a disastrous set of results spelt the end for  Mr Slade.
Results now are very similar and many fans are wanting action , so my plea to you after the current set of results is do not pander to the same old voices, the same old moaners, the same old impatient guys that can’t wait to get to their keyboard when this situation arrives and even contemplate the sacking of Mr Jolley.
Results are bad,confidence is low but it is nowhere as bad as the early part of this year. I do believe you might have appointed a manager that we will be proud of given time. Please, please give him a chance  to prove himself he needs that time.

Dear john.

Yes do not pander the keyboard warriors, leave things as they are and lets see if we can make it 7 defeats on the bounce with one single goal and be rock bottom of the league by next week.

Cheers mucker.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Those mentioning Zak Mills, did you see Embleton’s goal yesterday? That’s why we let him go.

That plus the fact that he doesn't pass the ball well enough. In jolleys opinion rhj and Davis ticked far more boxes

Quoted from thevera

Dear John
I realise you are a busy man and must have a lot on your mind at the moment so I hope this doesn’t inconvenience you too much but I have something on my mind that is bothering me.
It is regarding the football club we both love so much. I don’t need to tell you that the Morecambe game was another disappointing day at Blundell Park, one that we are all too familiar with at this moment in time. Is that now 6 successive defeats and something like 5 wins in 20 at BP? I’m sure you’d agree that kind of record is going to test even the most ardent supporters.
Earlier this year you appointed the current manager after a disastrous set of results spelt the end for  Mr Slade.
Results now are very similar and many fans are wanting action , so my plea to you after the current set of results is do not pander to the same old voices, the same old moaners, the same old impatient guys that can’t wait to get to their keyboard when this situation arrives and even contemplate the sacking of Mr Jolley.
Results are bad,confidence is low but it is nowhere as bad as the early part of this year. I do believe you might have appointed a manager that we will be proud of given time. Please, please give him a chance  to prove himself he needs that time.

Why are results so bad, how does our budget compare to others in this league, you reap what you sow, and how have we fared under Fenty's stewardship, without doubt the worst era in our clubs history, one remaining factor in it all is Fenty, managers and players have been and gone but we are so excrement it's unbelieveable, Fenty has to go, give someone a chance to breathe new life in to the basket case that GTFC has become with him and his yes men running things, also how long have we gone without a chairman. It won't be long before the club changes it name to Poundland FC, that'll suit us playing in non league against the dog and duck who have a bigger budget than us. The club is a joke, a bad one at that, if we drop into non league I doubt many will give Fenty and the club the time of day and it will be longer than 6 years for us to get back.

We are well and truly fcuked if things continue, something has to give, and anyone claiming people are enjoying being angry or raising dissenting voices, you are part of the problem, we've been spoon fed this crap for nigh on 2 decades now, patience has gone we want action one way or the other not the same old same old. If Fenty can't work with others to make this club great again he needs to go and take his bengin debt with him, give the trust it's £200K shares back and never step foot in the boardroom again.

I'm fed up of the constant loser mentality from top to bottom, you want Town to do well, do something about it Fenty otherwise I don't believe you, never in a million years did I think that Scunthorpe and Lincoln would be operating above us with us heading for non league yet again, this is fcuking balderdash and one man running the show and his yes men are directing this club in the direction it is heading. You reap what you sow.

Quoted from Bigdog

There's people I know who are trying to do good things for the club that think JF is a laughing stock and try to avoid involving him. Everything else you say I completely agree with you. "Project Poundland Football League Club" built on fear and a total lack of ability and acumen and not even backed up by a single penny..

I think this is common knowledge that Mr. Fenty finds it difficult to work with others (unless they are hand picked, and not a threat) for the common good.

This can actually be a good trait, if you have the nous and money to drive your vision forward; sadly for us that does not apply in our case.

We are stuck with this never ending decline until he decides to move on.

I wish it was five wins in twenty home league games. I think it's two wins in about eighteen games? We'll be relegated and deservedly so IMO.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Those mentioning Zak Mills, did you see Embleton’s goal yesterday? That’s why we let him go.

If you are correct then I fully expect an anouncement from the cub tomorrow to say that Whitmore and Collins have been released.

Quoted from Bigdog

If JF upped and made a clean break from GTFC today and offered the club up at its actual market value, someone would fill the void, trust me. The problem is his demands and bloody-mindedness. If it took a week or month or two before anyone came in, we could seat a sack of spuds on the chairman's boardroom chair in the meantime. At least it would have no influence in making crass decision after crass decision. It is well known that JF is a laughing stock even within the corridors of BP. With the Town Deal floating around, there is no better time for JF to leave. He has absolutely nothing to offer to push this club forward. Have you been asleep for the past seventeen years?

Roasted

Quoted from arryarryarry

If you are correct then I fully expect an anouncement from the cub tomorrow to say that Whitmore and Collins have been released.

It’s a good point, schoolboy defending.

Quoted from arryarryarry

If you are correct then I fully expect an anouncement from the cub tomorrow to say that Whitmore and Collins have been released.

We have heard a lot about Collins, quite rightly but I am not sure if Whitmore knew what day it was yesterday.

I hadn't noticed before but he seems unable or unwilling to jump and challenge for the ball. Add to that a lack of pace and agricultural at best with the ball at his feet, you wonder why we thought a good idea to sign him.

Quoted from Bigdog

If JF upped and made a clean break from GTFC today and offered the club up at its actual market value, someone would fill the void, trust me.

Think you've proved my point there. Your 'viable alternative' is a hunch you've got. Forgive me if I take that as what it's worth in real money: intercourse all.

Quoted from MarinerWY

Think you've proved my point there. Your 'viable alternative' is a hunch you've got. Forgive me if I take that as what it's worth in real money: intercourse all.

That fcuk all money is that what Fenty and the board have put in this season.

That point you talk of can we bank that point because Fenty's stewardship isn't bringing any and him and his yes men are guiding us again into non league without a whimper, never mind eh we'll get a bit of that football fortune Fenty's always banging on about soon, it will drop out of an alien mothership after they have heard our cries for help in Alpha Centauri, Captain Zaphod Beeblebrox will be our saviour all hail Zaphod Beeblebrox.

FENTY OUT bag of spuds to take his seat.

Fenty is the cancer slowly killing the club.

Quoted from Marinerz93

That fcuk all money is that what Fenty and the board have put in this season.

.

But I didn't think you wanted him to put any more money in, you are always bitching about how the 'benign' loans are holding the club back, surely you don't want that sum increased?

Quoted from Ipswin

But I didn't think you wanted him to put any more money in, you are always bitching about how the 'benign' loans are holding the club back, surely you don't want that sum increased?

No I don't, I want him to wipe his benign loans and leave the boardroom with his yes men and give someone with fresh ideas and fire in their belly to get the club going in a positive direction, won't happen though will it, I've seen barnacles with less grip than the strangle hold he has got on the club, and are we benefiting with him being associated with the club, are we are club on the up, are we playing attractive football and playing to full houses week in week out.

How does our budget compare to other clubs, because what I am seeing is what you reap is what you sow. Just like all the other excrement seasons in very recent memory, in fact it's mainly been excrement since he has been in the boardroom, Fenty out.

Quoted from Ipswin

But I didn't think you wanted him to put any more money in, you are always bitching about how the 'benign' loans are holding the club back, surely you don't want that sum increased?

Most people who invest in football clubs don't expect to get their money back, and don't consider investment as "loans".

Well run clubs will buy players for £50,000 or £100,000 and develop them to sell on. Especially so with strikers, ala Bogle. Why didn't we invest in more players of that type when we sold him for a million?

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

Always thought Mills was a decent player we should not have let him go.

By far a better defender than any we had on the pitch.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

We have heard a lot about Collins, quite rightly but I am not sure if Whitmore knew what day it was yesterday.

I hadn't noticed before but he seems unable or unwilling to jump and challenge for the ball. Add to that a lack of pace and agricultural at best with the ball at his feet, you wonder why we thought a good idea to sign him.

Well I can't see him being expensive, can you?I think he's yet to prove he's FL standard and I know a player who's played with him and a scout who's seen him a fair bit and they both think the same.

Davis. (possibly our best defender?) is now injured, so it's perm 2 from 3 of Collins, Famewo and Whitmore, and that's it.
Somehow I don't see an end to us leaking goals.
It's aspects like this that lead me to suspect a poor overall budget when you look at the general calibre in this, and indeed other positions.

Did any of Johns predecessors put money into the club? Did they put more money into the club than him?

Quoted from Bigdog

If JF upped and made a clean break from GTFC today and offered the club up at its actual market value, someone would fill the void, trust me. The problem is his demands and bloody-mindedness. If it took a week or month or two before anyone came in, we could seat a sack of spuds on the chairman's boardroom chair in the meantime. At least it would have no influence in making crass decision after crass decision. It is well known that JF is a laughing stock even within the corridors of BP. With the Town Deal floating around, there is no better time for JF to leave. He has absolutely nothing to offer to push this club forward. Have you been asleep for the past seventeen years?

The starting point to value any business is usually 2.5 x its operating profit averaged over 3 years for the A shares, the B shares look a bit different as they take into account fixed assets and a number of other considerations.

We lose money in reality, have a (benign apparently) debt and our biggest fixed asset is dilapidated to a state that only the land is worth anything to a developer, planning permission permitting of course.

In reality GTFC is only worth the value JF places on it and that no doubt will be like most of the other things associated with the club at the moment unsustainable and unrealistic. This will only move forward if he walks away and does not name a price.          

Who would come in? Not the Trust nor fan owned etc.. as again in reality that would just be shifting the liability that these Muppets have accrued.

Ironically (I'm not suggesting this BTW)  if MJ was the MD/chief exec I reckon he'd have much more impact than being the Manager. Well educated, financially qualified, experienced in business, understands what the club means to people, can sell the dream, inoffensive, ambitious etc.. etc..    

Quoted from Marinerz93

That fcuk all money is that what Fenty and the board have put in this season.

That point you talk of can we bank that point because Fenty's stewardship isn't bringing any and him and his yes men are guiding us again into non league without a whimper, never mind eh we'll get a bit of that football fortune Fenty's always banging on about soon, it will drop out of an alien mothership after they have heard our cries for help in Alpha Centauri, Captain Zaphod Beeblebrox will be our saviour all hail Zaphod Beeblebrox.

FENTY OUT bag of spuds to take his seat.

I'm sure I've already heard Marvin the Paranoid Android in the Main Stand. So it's just a matter of time  

Quoted from nightrider

Did any of Johns predecessors put money into the club? Did they put more money into the club than him?

Recently.. Mike Parker has invested much more..

In fact, JF has only invested £700k in the club by way of shares in order to have the honour to run it for seventeen years. The £2m loan doesn't count because he wants it back and he was given £200k by the Trust. So that's the equivalent of £112 per day he's invested. Probably cover the cost of replacing the floodlight bulbs. A laughable amount for a Football League club and he's cost us millions in the meantime, so I really don't see your point. He's a urine-taking chancer without an ounce of humility in him, because if he had, he'd have walked years ago. He's the most embarrassing figure in the long history of the club.

None of the other chairman had such a poor on pitch or off pitch record, led us into non-league or so many relegations and relegation battles, notwithstanding all the other shite the fans have had to put up with from him over the years.

And this tweet just about sums up Fenty Poundland FC..

https://twitter.com/mattdannatt/status/1046454604924407809

Quoted from Bigdog

And this tweet just about sums up Fenty Poundland FC..

https://twitter.com/mattdannatt/status/1046454604924407809

I read that earlier. Astounding. Add Holt to Phil Brown & Askey and MJ becomes the 4th cab on the rank.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I read that earlier. Astounding. Add Holt to Phil Brown & Askey and MJ becomes the 4th cab on the rank.

Plus Stuart McCall declined to even talk to us.

Quoted from Bigdog

And this tweet just about sums up Fenty Poundland FC..

https://twitter.com/mattdannatt/status/1046454604924407809

Kin ell , explains it all perfectly now, i  knew john was tight but to ask him to be a fireman the kitman a ballboy and a taxi driver was a bit out of order.

Fenty out.

the club has gone that far down hill it will need a total rebuild .. Thanks Fenty.. now get gone ..off you trot .

Quoted from nightrider

Did any of Johns predecessors put money into the club? Did they put more money into the club than him?

Let's nail another myth..

Under Fenty the club has lost half a mill for six seasons by not being in the Football League, there's £3m. And let's be generous to John and say the pitiful performances and shambolic way the club has been driven into the ground have only put off an average of 1k fans per home game. Let's face it, how many people does everyone know that don't go anymore? And it's not even taking into account lost income from away fans. That's say £13k per game, £300k per season, so £5m over 17 seasons. That's a total of £8m without taking into account the fact that we've not had any inward investment for years..

Which of John's predecessors have cost the club that much money, make no apologies for it and still take no financial responsibility, then boldly try to make out that they're keeping the club afloat? He is of course in a small way but only by securing it on what little value there is left in the club. The sick thing is that he's only had to keep the club afloat because of his own crass decisions and actions. As harming this club goes, John Fenty is like the ITV Digital collapse on steroids..

Quoted from ginnywings

Most people who invest in football clubs don't expect to get their money back, and don't consider investment as "loans".

Well run clubs will buy players for £50,000 or £100,000 and develop them to sell on. Especially so with strikers, ala Bogle. Why didn't we invest in more players of that type when we sold him for a million?

We did, Sam Jones and Jamey Osborne in the main.

Problem was 'the board' sanctioned high wages and didn't add a stipulation in the contracts that the players had to move to the area.  Then they blamed Bignot for it.

Buy 'em cheap, develop and sell.  We invested £30k in a player, he scored 32 goals in less than 18 months with us, played a massive role in getting us promoted and we sell him for £700,000.  Over 2000% profit mark up.  Even before the Bogle money we had decent success with signing talent from the leagues below (McKeown, Hearn, Pearson...).  Best policy we've ever had under Fenty and he ditches it in an instant.  Sums the club up.

Quoted from Bigdog

Let's nail another myth..

Under Fenty the club has lost half a mill for six seasons by not being in the Football League, there's £3m. And let's be generous to John and say the pitiful performances and shambolic way the club has been driven into the ground have only put off an average of 1k fans away per home game. Let's face it, how many people does everyone know that don't go anymore? And it's not even taking into account lost income from away fans. That's say £13k per game, £300k per season, so £5m over 17 seasons. That's a total of £8m without taking into account the fact that we've not had any inward investment for years..

Which of John's predecessors have cost the club that much money, make no apologies for it and still take no financial responsibility, then boldly try to make out that they're keeping the club afloat? He is of course in a small way but only by securing it on what little value there is left in the club. The sick thing is that he's only had to keep the club afloat because of his own crass decisions and actions. As harming this club goes, John Fenty is like the ITV Digital collapse on steriods..

This should be a pinned post.

The thing is J.F has applied austerity techniques on the club and just as they have failed the country they have failed the club and more importantly the supporters of the club.

He needs to realise he cannot run a football club like you run a fishmongers,in taking up this club he has inherited a responsibility to the generations that have supported the ,. He has come in and applied monetarist policies to the club without realising it is about a communities hopes and expectations.
It is very similar to the private sector providing services to the public sector,they know the cost of everything,and the value of nothing.You need to understand that there are some assets that don't translate to the bottom line. Perhaps that is too much to expect a Tory to understand.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Kin ell , explains it all perfectly now, i  knew john was tight but to ask him to be a fireman the kitman a ballboy and a taxi driver was a bit out of order.

Fenty out.

Hang on, don't we now have more back room staff than ever? They must share the responsibility for the current situation. Limbrick just seems to be in charge of the tactic ring binder.

You would of thought Limbrick would have a few gems from the conference he could have bought in.

Not sure how true this is but got told at the match (half time cig) on Saturday that Fenty actually got out voted by other Board members regarding the appointment of Jolley. So "apparently" he wasn't Fenty's 1st choice anyway.

Also got told by these guys (and couldn't smell any alcohol on em) that there was a rumoured Emergency Board Meeting last week regarding Jolley's 6 month rolling contract that was up.

Anyone else heard owt like this ?  

You'd think a board would know how a rolling contract works. Although...

Quoted from Koggmaster

Not sure how true this is but got told at the match (half time cig) on Saturday that Fenty actually got out voted by other Board members regarding the appointment of Jolley. So "apparently" he wasn't Fenty's 1st choice anyway.

Also got told by these guys (and couldn't smell any alcohol on em) that there was a rumoured Emergency Board Meeting last week regarding Jolley's 6 month rolling contract that was up.

Anyone else heard owt like this ?  

No credibility from your informants whatsoever if they actually think a rolling contract was up!!

Quoted from Koggmaster

Not sure how true this is but got told at the match (half time cig) on Saturday that Fenty actually got out voted by other Board members regarding the appointment of Jolley. So "apparently" he wasn't Fenty's 1st choice anyway.

Also got told by these guys (and couldn't smell any alcohol on em) that there was a rumoured Emergency Board Meeting last week regarding Jolley's 6 month rolling contract that was up.

Anyone else heard owt like this ?  

Shut Up!

Quoted from Yoda

You would of thought Limbrick would have a few gems from the conference he could have bought in.

We won’t pay much more than most conference clubs if at all in some cases

Quoted from Yoda

You would of thought Limbrick would have a few gems from the conference he could have bought in.

He probably has, he'll be very useful when we get back down there

Quoted from Bigdog

Let's nail another myth..

Under Fenty the club has lost half a mill for six seasons by not being in the Football League, there's £3m. And let's be generous to John and say the pitiful performances and shambolic way the club has been driven into the ground have only put off an average of 1k fans per home game. Let's face it, how many people does everyone know that don't go anymore? And it's not even taking into account lost income from away fans. That's say £13k per game, £300k per season, so £5m over 17 seasons. That's a total of £8m without taking into account the fact that we've not had any inward investment for years..

Which of John's predecessors have cost the club that much money, make no apologies for it and still take no financial responsibility, then boldly try to make out that they're keeping the club afloat? He is of course in a small way but only by securing it on what little value there is left in the club. The sick thing is that he's only had to keep the club afloat because of his own crass decisions and actions. As harming this club goes, John Fenty is like the ITV Digital collapse on steroids..

I am afraid the club has become somewhat of a laughing stock, which is very hard to stomach when you consider our past history and our levels of support even during these very dark days.

I worry about what sort of reputation we are getting within the pro game; obviously people talk to each other all the time, and it must be common knowledge of how badly we are run, let alone how poor our league positions have been for donkeys years now and it is taking its toll.

Gary Holt's withering assessment will not have gone unnoticed either. Terrible days for a once proud club, and if we don't get a grip soon on and off the field I can see us really dropping off the map.

Countless times Fenty has overseen catastrophic seasons and I am at a loss why he doesn't change tack to at least try to tackle his shortcomings.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I am afraid the club has become somewhat of a laughing stock, which is very hard to stomach when you consider our past history and our levels of support even during these very dark days.

I worry about what sort of reputation we are getting within the pro game; obviously people talk to each other all the time, and it must be common knowledge of how badly we are run, let alone how poor our league positions have been for donkeys years now and it is taking its toll.

Gary Holt's withering assessment will not have gone unnoticed either. Terrible days for a once proud club, and if we don't get a grip soon on and off the field I can see us really dropping off the map.

Countless times Fenty has overseen catastrophic seasons and I am at a loss why he doesn't change tack to at least try to tackle his shortcomings.

Because he doesn’t have any shortcomings!

The one single thing that grinds so many peoples gears is he believes he is always right, he doesn’t listen to anyone and although most would say his thinking often lacks logic, he just doesn’t see it.

I fully agree that our stock in the game must be extremely low,managers, players, agents all talk. It won’t be positive

Bignot did say that there were less staff on board here than at Solihull, and remember that very awkward moment at the forum when he said every club at this level had a stength and conditioning coach (except us).

We've got one now though haven't we? A 'strength and conditioning coach'. We look as unresponsive, unfit and disorganised as it's possible to imagine, but we've got one....

Quoted from chaos33

We've got one now though haven't we? A 'strength and conditioning coach'. We look as unresponsive, unfit and disorganised as it's possible to imagine, but we've got one....

By default though. The strength and conditioning coach was employed by Woods’s academy set up but nabbed by Slade.
I fully accept that appearances can be misleading but I wonder if looking so much younger than virtually every player, may mean they question his instructions.??
The kid may well be fantastic, highly qualified but pro footballers are an odd bunch and mistrusting of ‘outsiders’

Gotta go..... no improvement on last season, in fact it’s worse....

Quoted from chaos33

We've got one now though haven't we? A 'strength and conditioning coach'. We look as unresponsive, unfit and disorganised as it's possible to imagine, but we've got one....

I remember the Clee pre-season after match comments when some said the players looked knackered. They look knackered now - have they been over- conditioned?

Quoted from Cloudy

No credibility from your informants whatsoever if they actually think a rolling contract was up!!

In that case it must have come from the Board!

[winking smiley added for the hard of thinking]

Quoted from chaos33

We've got one now though haven't we? A 'strength and conditioning coach'. We look as unresponsive, unfit and disorganised as it's possible to imagine, but we've got one....

But if we'd given a better budget and a the much debated strength and conditioning coach to Hurst he may well have stayed a lot longer and built us into something better. I hate to bang on about how good he was but how many people on here would rather have Jolley than Hurst? Not many would be my guess.

I would. We are well rid of the miserable little excrement

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I remember the Clee pre-season after match comments when some said the players looked knackered. They look knackered now - have they been over- conditioned?

Is the S&C coach looking after core strength or stamina? Are the players doing plank exercises instead of miles on the road? I agree they look knackered so is the program based upon what we see on a Saturday or data on a lap top and BMI readings?

It felt at the time like we where short of pre season games and playing a number of games on the bang is what really boosts your fitness. Similarly how many outfield players in the squad have played 5 full (ish) games straight ? At this stage of the season that level of intensity really helps.