IF things dont turn out

Quoted from Grim74

At least Bother to get your facts right before posting in the past 7 seasons we have only been in the league 2 times and 2016-17 we finished above them!!
From 2013 - 2016 we wasn’t even in the same league so you can’t compare performance.
2011 - 2013 we were both non league and we finished above them in the 2011-2011 season.

I suggest you have a look at the League table this morning. Newport are a fans-run club with a board of 10 elected directors - we are run by the majority shareholder and a few hangers-on.

Quoted from Grim74

At least Bother to get your facts right before posting in the past 7 seasons we have only been in the league 2 times and 2016-17 we finished above them!!
From 2013 - 2016 we wasn’t even in the same league so you can’t compare performance.
2011 - 2013 we were both non league and we finished above them in the 2011-2011 season.

Are you for real?

By your own stats the mighty Newport have finished ahead of us in the standings for 5 out of 7 seasons which is EXACTLY my point.

I love the fact you quote that "From 2013 - 2016 we wasn’t even in the same league so you can’t compare performance". Of course you can, they were in the league above us!

Quoted from Cloudy

Are you for real?

By your own stats the mighty Newport have finished ahead of us in the standings for 5 out of 7 seasons which is EXACTLY my point.

“ out performed GTFC for several seasons” that was you quote right?
Look you’ve already lost the argument just give up.🙄

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love the fact you quote that "From 2013 - 2016 we wasn’t even in the same league so you can’t compare performance". Of course you can, they were in the league above us!

By your reckoning then last season Sunderland our performed Wigan WTF! I think you need to understand the word performed.

Grim74 you have some fuzzy logic going on here, how on earth can you argue that a club in a higher league was not out performing us? This would be the same Newport who kicked our bottom in the playoffs too?

There are loads of other examples of location not being a problem, Carlisle and  Exeter seem to out perform us year in year out. And if location was the primary determinant in attracting quality players how come Barnet and Orient went down surely they benefit from the same location benefits of a club such as Bury.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

Grim74 you have some fuzzy logic going on here, how on earth can you argue that a club in a higher league was not out performing us? This would be the same Newport who kicked our bottom in the playoffs too?

There are loads of other examples of location not being a problem, Carlisle and  Exeter seem to out perform us year in year out. And if location was the primary determinant in attracting quality players how come Barnet and Orient went down surely they benefit from the same location benefits of a club such as Bury.

Did Wigan outperform Sunderland last season? I bet if you asked the Sunderland fans the answer would be a resounding yes.

You can’t compare different leagues when measuring our performance, I get what you are saying but our performance is based fundamentally on the direct competition which is currently 23 other league 2 teams.

I can just imagine the Wigan fans “yeah we are champions we’ve won the league” hold hold on you’re still shite as you were outperformed by 44 other teams go whip yourself.

Carlisle and Exeter are basement clubs and always will be. yes Carlisle did reach the top with a that GEM of a manager which was in the great Bill Shankley’s words “the greatest ever football achievement” because he understood.

As for Barnet basically a pub team and Leyton Orient well for them to be in the non league has everything to do with poor management from top to bottom.

So grim74, let us get back to what was originally posed;  you are claiming that Newport being say, 16th in League 2 is not a better perfomrance than Grimsby town being say 5th in the Conference?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Let's be right.

We have a custodian who thinks it was wrong to bulldoze 4 tower blocks that were way out of date, would rather build a stadium on a greenfield site rather than re-generate the East Marsh and believes Operation Promotion was the worst thing that's happened to the club.

Add to that flasks, flags, Newell, 'benign' debts, Radio Humberside, the fans forum, interview from the snooker room & it's fairly obvious where the roots of our problems lie.

I am sure I helped build 6 tower blocks.

I did not contribute much though, I did enjoy doing the snagging once the people moved in.

Quoted from Cloudy

So grim74, let us get back to what was originally posed;  you are claiming that Newport being say, 16th in League 2 is not a better perfomrance than Grimsby town being say 5th in the Conference?

No this was before that - “ out performed GTFC for several seasons”

Total bollox just admit it and you are now scraping the barrel to mask your bullshit lazy post that I shot done in flames.  

Sorry ģrim not looking for an argument but very clearly those teams who were in the league above us who were not relegated were doing better than us.
Claiming that you have shot down his argument in flames - hmmmm.

Quoted from toontown

Sorry ģrim not looking for an argument but very clearly those teams who were in the league above us who were not relegated were doing better than us.
Claiming that you have shot down his argument in flames - hmmmm.

My shot down in flames claim was regarding cloudy’s false claim which was factually incorrect.i’m no the argumentive type and was just correcting him. It then got a bit silly thinking about it now if I’m honest. But instead of just saying ok I was wrong he decided to go on the attack and  nit-pick my reply.

Looking  at this objectively I can see that regarding ‘performance’ we are both correct, it’s just that we’ve defined performance in a different way so I can’t be fairer than that.