Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Fishy Forum Fishy Boards Archive › Some Stats...
Users Browsing Forum
AdSense and 206 Guests

Some Stats...

  This thread currently has 5,194 views. Print
4 Pages Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All Recommend Thread
grimsby pete
September 24, 2018, 2:00pm

Exile
Posts: 55,545
Posts Per Day: 9.83
Reputation: 81.7%
Rep Score: +126 / -28
Location: Suffolk
Approval: +17,753
Gold Stars: 221
Quoted from 140348
Not bad points under Shankley bearing in mind 2 points for a win in them days.


Sorry old bean but you have spelt your name wrong,

There is no  e   in Shankly  


                             Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
                             68 Years following the Town

                              Life member of Trust

                               First game   April 1955
                               
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 10 - 36
140348
September 24, 2018, 2:22pm
Guest User
Quoted from grimsby pete


Sorry old bean but you have spelt your name wrong,

There is no  e   in Shankly  


Shame you didn't tell my father how to spell his name. Your right about Bills spelling errors.  Bit bored in Suffolk are you.
Logged
E-mail
Reply: 11 - 36
RichMariner
September 24, 2018, 2:38pm
Brandy Drinker
Posts: 2,954
Posts Per Day: 0.50
Reputation: 89.39%
Rep Score: +42 / -4
Location: Garforth, Leeds
Approval: +9,109
Gold Stars: 204
I think Michael Jolley might be over-thinking and over-complicating things.

He's qualified up to the eyeballs in everything that is football. He's coached and helped develop a load of youngsters in the game and showed some tactical nous in his (brief) stint in Sweden.

Last season he came in, stuck to 4-4-2 and simplified the game. You could see how he settled things down and went back to basics in a way Slade promised but never delivered on.

I think Jolley compromised, to some degree, on his own tactical beliefs in order to steady a ship rather than set sail with it.

Now, it seems he's had time to assemble a squad of his own players and build it to a formation (and a set of tactics) that he's had in his mind all along. And while these tactics and formations might be forward thinking or even quite radical, they're clearly not working at this level.

I don't think I could doubt his understanding of the game, or his man-management because, as a player who never played the game professionally, you wouldn't be where he was if you didn't know everything inside out.

I think he's asking fourth division footballers to play in a way that they don't have the technical or mental ability to carry out. Some of them might be capable but, as a collective, it's not gelling.

I'm hoping that, like last season, he can compromise on what he believes and accept that he won't be able to demonstrate his credentials for the sake of playing a system that our players understand fully.

Five defeats on the trot with a chronic lack of goals is concerning - especially if you measure it against the way we finished last season. He's had 19 league games in charge of us now and we've won just 5 times.

I'm surprised by the way we've started this season but we almost need to stop what we're doing, go back to basics in the same way we did last season, and see what happens before Christmas.

A couple more defeats to nil and I fear for his future.


"Don't shine that light in my face, mate - I've just lost a pint of blood."
Logged Offline
Site Private Message
Reply: 12 - 36
cannylad68
September 24, 2018, 2:49pm
Table Wine Drinker
Posts: 561
Posts Per Day: 0.11
Reputation: 74.7%
Rep Score: +7 / -3
Approval: +33
Gold Stars: 8
So I get a red cross for highlighting Shankley was spelt wrong.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 13 - 36
GollyGTFC
September 24, 2018, 5:56pm

Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 3,863
Posts Per Day: 0.68
Reputation: 67.2%
Rep Score: +19 / -11
Approval: +5,926
Gold Stars: 347
Quoted from 140348
Not bad points under Shankley bearing in mind 2 points for a win in them days.


I should have said that for sake of comparison all seasons prior to 1981 have been recalculated with 3 points for a win.
Logged Offline
Private Message Skype
Reply: 14 - 36
GrimRob
September 24, 2018, 9:31pm

Moderator
Posts: 12,630
Posts Per Day: 2.12
Reputation: 69.92%
Rep Score: +76 / -34
Approval: +13,343
Gold Stars: 113
The most important stat is there are 37 games left in the season  


'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.  
~ Alfred Lord Tennyson

Logged Offline
Site Private Message Skype
Reply: 15 - 36
KingstonMariner
September 24, 2018, 9:46pm
Meths Drinker
Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.12
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
Quoted from GollyGTFC


Or keep him and we might be in the National League in 12 months!


It'd probably just be deferring the inevitable if we replace him and if we do manage to find someone better.


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 16 - 36
toontown
September 24, 2018, 10:38pm
Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 3,362
Posts Per Day: 0.56
Reputation: 91.63%
Rep Score: +13 / 0
Approval: +6,159
Gold Stars: 69
Quoted from RichMariner


Last season he came in, stuck to 4-4-2and simplified the game. You could see how he settled things down and went back to basics in a way Slade promised but never delivered on.
.


Eh? We didn't play 4-4-2 under jolley last season, We played 4-3-3/4-5-1
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 17 - 36
GollyGTFC
September 25, 2018, 9:25am

Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 3,863
Posts Per Day: 0.68
Reputation: 67.2%
Rep Score: +19 / -11
Approval: +5,926
Gold Stars: 347
Quoted from toontown


Eh? We didn't play 4-4-2 under jolley last season, We played 4-3-3/4-5-1


Jolley tried playing 3-5-2 and it failed miserably and then he switched and played the current 4-1-4-1 at the end of the season...

Team was something like...

McKeown

Hall-Johnson
Clarke
Collins
Fox

Rose

Clifton
Summerfield
Woolford
Hooper

Cardwell

And we didn't score many goals under MJ last season either.

MJ has had 20 league games in charge & we've only scored 17 goals in that time. And 5 of those have been penalties. So we've scored 12 goals from open play in 20 under MJ. Which is utter shite!
Logged Offline
Private Message Skype
Reply: 18 - 36
grimsby pete
September 25, 2018, 9:51am

Exile
Posts: 55,545
Posts Per Day: 9.83
Reputation: 81.7%
Rep Score: +126 / -28
Location: Suffolk
Approval: +17,753
Gold Stars: 221
Quoted from GollyGTFC


Jolley tried playing 3-5-2 and it failed miserably and then he switched and played the current 4-1-4-1 at the end of the season...And we didn't score many goals under MJ last season either.

MJ has had 20 league games in charge & we've only scored 17 goals in that time. And 5 of those have been penalties. So we've scored 12 goals from open play in 20 under MJ. Which is utter shite!


Looking at those set of stats  is depressing .


                             Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
                             68 Years following the Town

                              Life member of Trust

                               First game   April 1955
                               
Logged Offline
Private Message
Reply: 19 - 36
4 Pages Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All Recommend Thread
Print

Fishy Forum Fishy Boards Archive › Some Stats...

Back to top of page

This is not an official forum of Grimsby Town Football Club, the opinions expressed are those of the individual authors. If you see an offensive post then click "Report" on the relevant post. Posts will be deleted at the discretion of the moderators whose decision is final. Posts should abide by the Forum Rules. IP addresses of contributors together with dates and times of access are stored. The opinions and viewpoints expressed by contributors to The Fishy are their own and not necessarily those of The Fishy. The Fishy makes no claims that information dispersed through this forum is accurate or reliable. Also The Fishy cannot be held liable for any statements made by contributors of The Fishy.