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 GollyGTFC |
| September 23, 2018, 2:44pm |
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How bad are we?
Well, this is the 73rd football season since the end of WW2...
After 9 games we have 5 points & a goal difference of -11.
We have only had 3 worse starts to the season than the current campaign...
2002/03 : 2 Pts & -12 GD (NB. Post-ITV digital collapse)
2008/09 : 3 Pts & -14 GD (Buckley III sacked after 6 games)
1962/63 : 4 Pts & -9 GD
We have scored 5 goals. The only times we have scored fewer (all 4 goals) was...
2008/09
2002/03
2000/01 (Buckley II sacked after 2 games)
Our goal difference (-11) has again only been worse 3 times...
1947/48 : -17 (Our final season in the top flight)
2008/09 : -14
2002/03 : -12
In all 3 cases this season ranks at 69 out of 73. Absolutely unacceptable
On the one hand 9 games does seem a bit early to sack a manager, but quite frankly given the results & (more importantly) performances I don't think MJ could have any complaints if Fenty & co handed him his P45 tomorrow morning.
Personally I would be in favour of biting the bullet & getting rid.
Oh and for those who are interested our 3 best first 9 games to a post-WW2 season were...
1990/91 : 22 Pts & +10 GD (Buckley I 2nd promotion season)
1960/61 : 21 Pts & +10 GD
1952/53 : 21 Pts & +10 GD (under some manager called Bill Shankley)
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| cannylad68 |
| September 23, 2018, 3:26pm |
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I always thought Bill Shankley was an imposter.
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| TAGG |
| September 23, 2018, 6:22pm |
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Notice how many bad stats on the Fenty watch 🤔
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| In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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| KingstonMariner |
| September 23, 2018, 9:12pm |
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How bad are we?
Well, this is the 73rd football season since the end of WW2...
After 9 games we have 5 points & a goal difference of -11.
We have only had 3 worse starts to the season than the current campaign...
2002/03 : 2 Pts & -12 GD (NB. Post-ITV digital collapse)
2008/09 : 3 Pts & -14 GD (Buckley III sacked after 6 games)
1962/63 : 4 Pts & -9 GD
We have scored 5 goals. The only times we have scored fewer (all 4 goals) was...
2008/09
2002/03
2000/01 (Buckley II sacked after 2 games)
Our goal difference (-11) has again only been worse 3 times...
1947/48 : -17 (Our final season in the top flight)
2008/09 : -14
2002/03 : -12
In all 3 cases this season ranks at 69 out of 73. Absolutely unacceptable
On the one hand 9 games does seem a bit early to sack a manager, but quite frankly given the results & (more importantly) performances I don't think MJ could have any complaints if Fenty & co handed him his P45 tomorrow morning.
Personally I would be in favour of biting the bullet & getting rid.
Oh and for those who are interested our 3 best first 9 games to a post-WW2 season were...
1990/91 : 22 Pts & +10 GD (Buckley I 2nd promotion season)
1960/61 : 21 Pts & +10 GD
1952/53 : 21 Pts & +10 GD (under some manager called Bill Shankley)
If it's stats that count we should be looking at the club's performance by chairman. Shame we can't sack him. Get rid of Jolley and we'll just be in the same position in 12-18 months. |
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| GollyGTFC |
| September 24, 2018, 8:12am |
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Get rid of Jolley and we'll just be in the same position in 12-18 months.
Or keep him and we might be in the National League in 12 months! |
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| Yoda |
| September 24, 2018, 9:51am |
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I fear MJ is in a death spiral and devoid of any ideas on how to change things.
We are generally worse in the second halves after his team talk.
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| ginnywings |
| September 24, 2018, 10:20am |
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It's the same problem as we had last season. We just can't score goals.
We had a period under Slade where we failed to score in 10 out of 15 games. The problem of not having recognised strikers who have scored goals regularly over a number of seasons is there for all to see. We should have addressed this problem no matter what the cost, because the cost of relegation is far higher.
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| Grim74 |
| September 24, 2018, 10:29am |
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I think if we lose convincingly on Saturday he’s gone and it’s right he could have no complaints, I wish him well.
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| Northbank Mariner |
| September 24, 2018, 12:11pm |
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I think if we lose convincingly on Saturday he’s gone and it’s right he could have no complaints, I wish him well.
And there in lies a very poignant point..."if we lose convincingly".... Should we play good football, show some attacking prowess score a couple but still lose by a single goal then I'd more inclined to not to be so shot gun and turf him out....but, after seeing the past few games with no thought to scoring or at least having a go and we come out this weekend and play like powder puff girls, then it's obvious for all to see that Jolley does not have the ability or nouse to see what's wrong in the team, the way he plays and is clueless to what it truly means when he says...."he gets it".... |
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| 140348 |
| September 24, 2018, 1:57pm |
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Not bad points under Shankley bearing in mind 2 points for a win in them days.  |
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