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Yoda
September 22, 2018, 6:41pm
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I think MJ should have the Morecombe game if he l does not win that I am afraid he has to go.

I do feel the players should take some responsibility though, they have not covered themselves in glory.

Que the telegraph let’s pack the park, i feel now most Town fans have lost all their fight.

Well done Fenty.!!
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With Morecambe bring about 28 we could have our lowest gate for years.


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Can't blame Fenty, regardless of whether Jolley was his 1st or 10th person in line. Majority of fans where happy with him coming in (myself included) I haven't been to any games yet except Lincoln at home (I'm in Somerset) I genuinely feel we're just in a bad patch at the moment and given a few games we will start to turn it around. For me personally unless we are bottom two moving adrift we should give Jolley until Christmas. I am still fairly confident he's the right person
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I'm sorry but I couldn't disagree more if I tried.

Regardless of what the result is next Saturday, we should be backing Jolley to a hilt - and actually mean it, not just Fenty's vote of confidence which means you're sacked next week.

We abandon now and then what? Someone's stuck with someone else's players until January and we then offload and bring in some journeymen and we go round and round and round again.

Jolley has done absolutely everything he physically can to get this area to support him and the team.  The last thing he deserves is the fans turning their back on him.

Luck, fortune, dodgy penalties, whatever you want to put it down to. He kept us up last season when we were all but dead and buried.  Had he failed in that, no-one would have blamed him. He deserves more than 2 months of the next season to get it right and kick on.  
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Can't blame Fenty, regardless of whether Jolley was his 1st or 10th person in line. Majority of fans where happy with him coming in (myself included) I haven't been to any games yet except Lincoln at home (I'm in Somerset) I genuinely feel we're just in a bad patch at the moment and given a few games we will start to turn it around. For me personally unless we are bottom two moving adrift we should give Jolley until Christmas. I am still fairly confident he's the right person


Agree. Don’t think changing the manager now is a good idea at all. I still believe in the man despite this terrible run we are in.
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I disagree with the notion.
I can't see how it's helpful, and I'm not convinced it would be prudent either.
It will just pile on additional pressure.
We all want to see a win.


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I think we need to give it more time, November at least, as long as we are outside the bottom 2.
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Not entirely sure it’ll make the slightest difference whether there’s 60 or 6000 on Saturday. The place is a morgue at the best of times. This is not a criticism, just an observation.

Usually quite optimistic, Christ knows you have to be to buy a season ticket after the past 15 years, but I have a very bad feeling about next Saturday.

Goes without saying I hope they turn a corner and Jolley gets things back on track, but I just can’t see it.
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For my part even as a season ticket holder I am so disinterested now  I just caught the score yesterday and read comments about the game.
I would give MJ only to the end of Oct with no wins but he is now under huge pressure
1. I think the team does try hard
2. I do not recall seeing a town team with no wingers, the balance is awful proven by chances and goalls, this team creates nothing
3. The game against Lincoln was an exception , this was the one off. That day we were at 90% , that was not our par performance
4. DC should not currently be in the first 11 , decentt cover though
5. MJ recruitment looks poor, Hess has some potential, the rest have been 6/10
6. MJ pays great respect to the opposition but we have a faceless team that works in an over engineered way , never seen a town team with less spark. We are dull beyond belief
7. Fitness is questionable as we donot finish well

So for me MJ did a great job last season but the form now is a disgrace, he has to be bold next week and we must play very well and draw or win. Less and I have lost faith. Will not follow town into non league again and many are like me. It will be over and out. There is no fun in this hobby of 40 years and so like a lot of the guys who have sat near me I will cut it and do something that gives a little pleasure utm
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I agree with the people who are pointing out our lack of balance, the omission of recruiting any wide players is really haunting us. Embmleton looked very poor last week for me so would need to improve a lot to help us. Those saying 442 i think are wrong. We just don't have the players for it.
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The word bust should not be mentioned this early in the season with 35 + games to go. Its simple.
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I don’t know what to think anymore, my early season optimism has all but gone. In my opinion we have better players than last season but it’s just not working. Why can’t we just stick with a formation and play people in their right positions. We just need to go back to basics and keep it simple. It’s LG2 football FFS, not Championship manager or FIFA19.
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Looking at things in a longer term we have 17 league games up to and including 1st Jan,

That will be 26 games played and a fairer assessment of how we are doing and Jolley's ability to change things,

If we are still in the bottom 4 then that will be the time for action,

If we have improved then give him the chance to spend a bit of money on quality signings

God knows what it will cost us if we get relegated so it will be money well spent.


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Looking at things in a longer term we have 17 league games up to and including 1st Jan,

That will be 26 games played and a fairer assessment of how we are doing and Jolley's ability to change things,

If we are still in the bottom 4 then that will be the time for action,

If we have improved then give him the chance to spend a bit of money on quality signings

God knows what it will cost us if we get relegated so it will be money well spent.


Not really bothered if God knows as long as the board know.
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September 23, 2018, 1:56pm

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Looking at things in a longer term we have 17 league games up to and including 1st Jan,

That will be 26 games played and a fairer assessment of how we are doing and Jolley's ability to change things,

If we are still in the bottom 4 then that will be the time for action,

If we have improved then give him the chance to spend a bit of money on quality signings

God knows what it will cost us if we get relegated so it will be money well spent.


Considering the amount of 2 year plus deals and that a fair few would have bigger budgets than us and are further along with their building process relegation would put the club’s future as we know it in doubt.


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Something has to change and pretty quick that's for sure....
Oh and also does anyone know how many of us went to Stevenage yesterday so I can give out the prediction thread results (normally on the match report)

I don't do twitter and facebook  



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Quoted from promotion plaice

Something has to change and pretty quick that's for sure....
Oh and also does anyone know how many of us went to Stevenage yesterday so I can give out the prediction thread results (normally on the match report)

I don't do twitter and facebook  



Not many PP there was only 2332 there in total.


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Not many PP there was only 2332 there in total.


When I do give out the results Pete you would have got it right but you changed your prediction  



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Remember that Jolley comes from a very competitive environment outside of football, the world of finance. I guess no one is more disappointed and angry than Jolley himself at these results. Simply, his character as a human being is someone who likes to win and hates to lose. More so than most. That is why I still believe that things will improve.

Even if the players is his, they don`t have many games together and they are a fairly young team age-wise too. Some injuries on top of that combined with meeting very good teams at the start of the season gives us the present results.
We were just as good as Stevenage yesterday, but were unlucky to let one in behind us.

I still believe we will come good, but there is obviously some problems to sort out - especially regarding our attacking options - we will never score, except on penalties, with Thomas on his own.
The more games  we lose, the players are also affected mentally, and the game against Morecambe is crucial when it comes to getting that nice feeling of winning a game. So Yes, that one will be important, but I don`t want a managerial runaround just yet. We have had too many of those - now we need to support a manager that saved us from certain relegation last season - one that we all have had a lot of belief in and praised Fenty for hiring.


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i fear it could get ugly if we lose to Morecombe.
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Remember that Jolley comes from a very competitive environment outside of football, the world of finance. I guess no one is more disappointed and angry than Jolley himself at these results. Simply, his character as a human being is someone who likes to win and hates to lose. More so than most. That is why I still believe that things will improve.

Even if the players is his, they don`t have many games together and they are a fairly young team age-wise too. Some injuries on top of that combined with meeting very good teams at the start of the season gives us the present results.
We were just as good as Stevenage yesterday, but were unlucky to let one in behind us.

I still believe we will come good, but there is obviously some problems to sort out - especially regarding our attacking options - we will never score, except on penalties, with Thomas on his own.
The more games  we lose, the players are also affected mentally, and the game against Morecambe is crucial when it comes to getting that nice feeling of winning a game. So Yes, that one will be important, but I don`t want a managerial runaround just yet. We have had too many of those - now we need to support a manager that saved us from certain relegation last season - one that we all have had a lot of belief in and praised Fenty for hiring.


Erm, we couldn't even manage a shot on target, I suggest you watch the highlights.
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Erm, we couldn't even manage a shot on target, I suggest you watch the highlights.


You are right, but I meant that we were on the level playing-wise.


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It was our 0-2 home defeat to Morecambe last season that got me thinking we were in deep sh1t. The board should have acted then, but let Slade carry on until the window had shut (while shipping out some of the better players) and it all got very toxic. Let's hope that Saturday brings a more positive result.
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We will support the team next Sat.  The manager could help his own cause by picking the right players.  No Collins, no Woolford etc.  We need to play with passion, purpose and courage.

We should take the game to Morecambe with attacking football.  Keeping the tactics simple.  2 up front would be a start.
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Quoted from MuddyWaters


Not really bothered if God knows as long as the board know.


God is on the board clutching most of the haloes atm
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We will support the team next Sat.  The manager could help his own cause by picking the right players.  No Collins, no Woolford etc.  We need to play with passion, purpose and courage.

We should take the game to Morecambe with attacking football.  Keeping the tactics simple.  2 up front would be a start.


dont get this, been no worse than anyone else, arguably our best player in August, would help if MJ played him on the right where against lincoln he was superb, yet hasnt played there since, one in a long line of odd decisions
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If we lose on Saturday and the bottom 2 win we’ll be bottom of the league of GD that is not acceptable then it’s Carlisle A, Port Vale H, Mansfield A then 2 home games games versus Exeter & Colchester finishing the month at Crewe. Looking at current form we could go into November still on the canvas.

If that’s the case then a change will need to be made in my opinion.


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If we lose on Saturday and the bottom 2 win we’ll be bottom of the league of GD that is not acceptable then it’s Carlisle A, Port Vale H, Mansfield A then 2 home games games versus Exeter & Colchester finishing the month at Crewe. Looking at current form we could go into November still on the canvas.

If that’s the case then a change will need to be made in my opinion.


To be honest herts, if I don't see a much, much improved performance this weekend , and I'll say this too, at least a couple of goals along with several on/off target attempts  then it's time for MJ to hold up his hands, admit defeat and accept football league management just is not his forte...saddens me to say all this because like the majority I pinned so many hopes on this young, hungry, enthusiastic and extremely well educated/ qualified young man....
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It was our 0-2 home defeat to Morecambe last season that got me thinking we were in deep sh1t. The board should have acted then, but let Slade carry on until the window had shut (while shipping out some of the better players) and it all got very toxic. Let's hope that Saturday brings a more positive result.


The thing is we looked safe at that stage in January as few imagined we would go on the sort of terrible run we did (which was the second worst run in our history - https://thefishy.co.uk/topresults.php)

This season is a different kettle of fish as we have barely any points on the board and we started our bad run when we basically had no points. There's no way that the manager in this situation is going to be allowed to go 20 games without a win, as we'd be marooned at the bottom if that were allowed to happen.


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The thing is we looked safe at that stage in January as few imagined we would go on the sort of terrible run we did (which was the second worst run in our history - https://thefishy.co.uk/topresults.php)

This season is a different kettle of fish as we have barely any points on the board and we started our bad run when we basically had no points. There's no way that the manager in this situation is going to be allowed to go 20 games without a win, as we'd be marooned at the bottom if that were allowed to happen.


I do not think we will go anywhere near 20 games without a win Rob,

BUT

We might win one and lose a few win one and lose a few more.

Our only hope is Jolley turns things round otherwise there is another new man coming in who might not do any better


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