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Our (just in time) change in fortunes came when MJ brought a sports psychologist in. Is it time we did that again?
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marinerdazza |
September 17, 2018, 1:39pm |
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I really think it's a confidence thing now. This is the same team that played Lincoln. Other than the loss of Summerfield (who I have to admit, has left a bigger hole than I thought he would) this is clearly a better team than we had last year and I genuinely believe they're capable of better things.
So in short, yes why not. Before the Morecambe game though - if we lose that heads will drop even further.
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September 17, 2018, 1:56pm |
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I really think it's a confidence thing now. This is the same team that played Lincoln. Other than the loss of Summerfield (who I have to admit, has left a bigger hole than I thought he would) this is clearly a better team than we had last year and I genuinely believe they're capable of better things.
So in short, yes why not. Before the Morecambe game though - if we lose that heads will drop even further.
The squad we ha out against Yeovil this time last year was as follows: 1McKeown 2Davies 6Collins 5Clarke 3Dixon 27Dembele Substituted for Kelly at 82'minutes 19Summerfield 7Berrett 25Woolford 10Jones Booked at 26mins Substituted for Cardwellat 90+4'minutes 29Matt Substituted for Vernon at 66'minutes Substitutes 9Hooper 11Kelly 14Osborne 17Cardwell 20Jaiyesimi 21Vernon 30Killip I would argue that squad has a lot more attacking threat than the one against Oldham. Hell it even had some wingers! Jaiyesimi, Dembele, Jones and Osbourne would have been very handy on Saturday.
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September 17, 2018, 1:57pm |
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The reason he brought in the chap to work with the squad briefly last season was because the team were weak mentally and couldn't respond (positively) to a setback - be it a goal conceded, red card, bad refereeing decision etc.
That appears to be happening again now doesn't it. As in, we go a goal down and then crumble. So it's definitely worth revisiting in my opinion.
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September 17, 2018, 3:14pm |
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I'm bias but I think psychologists within football are now essential.
It doesn't have to be full-time. A few days every fortnight would be sufficient for developing and maintaining implementations.
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Bigdog |
September 17, 2018, 3:17pm |
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The reason he brought in the chap to work with the squad briefly last season was because the team were weak mentally and couldn't respond (positively) to a setback - be it a goal conceded, red card, bad refereeing decision etc.
That appears to be happening again now doesn't it. As in, we go a goal down and then crumble. So it's definitely worth revisiting in my opinion.
The only thing is that it would show a fallibility in Jolley's man management skills to go so early in a season to this kind of help with what essentially is his own squad. I'm not saying it may not be needed, but MJ has to be very careful about the what impression could be assumed about his own motivational ability..
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diehardmariner |
September 17, 2018, 3:50pm |
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The only thing is that it would show a fallibility in Jolley's man management skills to go so early in a season to this kind of help with what essentially is his own squad. I'm not saying it may not be needed, but MJ has to be very careful about the what impression could be assumed about his own motivational ability..
I think it would show Jolley as a forward thinking manager who isn't afraid of trying non-traditional methods. Most successful sports clubs now fully recognise the correlation between positive mind and body. If we're improving off the field as much as we like to think we are, I would like to see us embrace stuff like this on a more full-time basis than just as and when we're at rock bottom. I completely understand what you're saying, it would open Jolley up to a section of the fanbase who will see it as pampering and showing signs of weakness. But in all honesty I think he's going to do that whatever he tries that's a little bit different.
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September 17, 2018, 4:15pm |
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The supporters could do with "psychologizing" after last Saturday
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moosey_club |
September 17, 2018, 4:19pm |
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It has been mentioned before but i think what is missing is the bags ball....being surrounded on a Wednesday night by free and easy ladies was always a confidence booster for the lads of 89/90 97/98 .
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Maringer |
September 17, 2018, 4:33pm |
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It has been mentioned before but i think what is missing is the bags ball....being surrounded on a Wednesday night by free and easy ladies was always a confidence booster for the lads of 89/90 97/98 .
Downsides were obviously time missed from training due to visits to the clap clinic.
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golfer |
September 17, 2018, 5:56pm |
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It has been mentioned before but i think what is missing is the bags ball....being surrounded on a Wednesday night by free and easy ladies was always a confidence booster for the lads of 89/90 97/98 .
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moosey_club |
September 17, 2018, 6:14pm |
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Players came and went...but the women were the same ones
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Marinerz93 |
September 17, 2018, 7:49pm |
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A simple you lose, you can expect running on the beach for most of the morning and a cool down walk round the nunny in the afternoon.
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September 17, 2018, 7:54pm |
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A simple you lose, you can expect running on the beach for most of the morning and a cool down walk round the nunny in the afternoon.
Get them all down the docks at the crack of dawn to see what life could be like for them and more importantly; what life is like for some of the fanbase. Then tell them that unless they buck their ideas up, it will be 6am starts next week.
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KingstonMariner |
September 17, 2018, 10:02pm |
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I really think it's a confidence thing now. This is the same team that played Lincoln. Other than the loss of Summerfield (who I have to admit, has left a bigger hole than I thought he would) this is clearly a better team than we had last year and I genuinely believe they're capable of better things.
So in short, yes why not. Before the Morecambe game though - if we lose that heads will drop even further.
That should teach us something about judging players too soon. Jones the Stick was another one years ago who in his first season I thought was useless. By the time he was carried off the pitch on fans' shoulders after the Spurs game I'd got used to eating my hat.
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marinerdazza |
September 17, 2018, 11:33pm |
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That should teach us something about judging players too soon. Jones the Stick was another one years ago who in his first season I thought was useless. By the time he was carried off the pitch on fans' shoulders after the Spurs game I'd got used to eating my hat.
Jones is a good call. Incredible how he transformed in one season.
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September 18, 2018, 7:34am |
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It has been mentioned before but i think what is missing is the bags ball....being surrounded on a Wednesday night by free and easy ladies was always a confidence booster for the lads of 89/90 97/98 .
Still infuriates me that the gardens was pulled down
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September 18, 2018, 9:22am |
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Bring back the BIRCH for every match they lose-management and directors included,to be administered straight after the match-watch the gates improve.
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KingstonMariner |
September 18, 2018, 11:37am |
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Still infuriates me that the gardens was pulled down
Me too. Now I'm older I'd like to go to the Bags' Ball and meet all the young 40 year old women
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Me too. Now I'm older I'd like to go to the Bags' Ball and meet all the young 40 year old women
_+ the Cafe Dansant
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KingstonMariner |
September 19, 2018, 10:12pm |
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_+ the Cafe Dansant
I'm not that bloody old!
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_+ the Cafe Dansant
My old man called for a taxi after a night out a little while back and not being sure of the road name said he was near cafe Dansant. "It was shut down 30 years ago love, but your car's on it's way....!" Silly old gimmer.
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