Just back

The ball is never played through the channels. Either revert back to an old system or forget that and try to play to the modern game. It seems that nobody can decide between new and old. You can't mix the two unless one is a backup i.e. Plan B

Quoted from 1mickylyons

I feel like an empty crisp packet that has been blown up then burst FFS

I always thought we would start slow and then get better but we seriously look like relegation fodder AGAIN!!!

We need to see fast starts at home to get the fan`s onside and were not seeing anything positive at all just some odd team selection`s.

Danny Collins has been a decent servant for us but his performance on Saturday should be his last as a starter in a League game in my opinion.

needs to work out his best team ASAP and start playing it and we need to start getting shots on goal were just not doing enough to threaten the opposition goal.

A very disappointing start to the Season I still think it will get better but the way we are shipping goals is very alarming.

What flavour crisp would you be Mickey? I see you as Salt n Vinegar. Salt for a salt of the Earth bloke with a bit of a vinegar bite.

Quoted from golfer

The ball is never played through the channels. Either revert back to an old system or forget that and try to play to the modern game. It seems that nobody can decide between new and old. You can't mix the two unless one is a backup i.e. Plan B

At the moment, we seem to want to play out from the back but then get fed up and hoof it. The fans see no progress, go quiet and BP turns into a library.

The best support comes when they see a Town team play with a high tempo and force the opposition back. Only once (Lincoln) have we done that at home this season - the rest has been an attempt to create this new style which appears to not be working. Is it that the players aren't up to the new system, don't like the new system or the opposition have sussed the new system?

I'll go back to a point I made elsewhere - football isn't played in a classroom.

Personally i think we have technically better players this season.....i just don't think they know what they are supposed to be doing. Every game i have seen to date i have struggled to figure out our shape/ positions....in just about every game we have lacked any attacking width and defensively we seem to vulnerable in the channels as well.

Macclesfield away we had more of a distinct 4-5-1 and looked good....as it turns out that may be as Macc are poor but we definately looked much improved on our previous game and the players looked comfortable in that shape and in their positions.

Says it all about Collins when a whipper snapper(Hendrie) is screaming and balling at him telling him where to be, how to react and how to f@cking defend...to say Collins day has been and gone is an understatement, time to hang up the boots Danny, give the young guns a chance and save yourself from ending what has undoubtedly been a good career in a raft of embarrassing mistakes...

Talk of Saturday being Collins last game is if I might venture an opinion well premature.
This is a player who a month ago played 87 minutes with a broken arm in what was unarguably our best 90 minutes of the season. When we are talking about needing players with the guts to get us out of the poor run we are in then Collins has them in spades. Whether he should've been rushed straight back after that injury is a moot point.
I know it was poor on Saturday but sometimes it's like the Salem witch(warlock) trials on here...

Quoted from barralad

Talk of Saturday being Collins last game is if I might venture an opinion well premature.
This is a player who a month ago played 87 minutes with a broken arm in what was unarguably our best 90 minutes of the season. When we are talking about needing players with the guts to get us out of the poor run we are in then Collins has them in spades. Whether he should've been rushed straight back after that injury is a moot point.
I know it was poor on Saturday but sometimes it's like the Salem witch(warlock) trials on here...

Don't agree Barra. No witch hunt from me. He's had the odd good game in him last season and one this. It's been coming a long time. He was very erratic and a big part of the problem last season with some really bad habits creeping in and even worse this season. Guts alone won't get us out of this mess. He's too slow, too vulnerable and unsettles what could be quite a sound defence for this level. When everyone is available, Davis, Hendrie, RHJ, Whitmore, Fox and Famewo, he should be nowhere near the team if we want to be progressive. I've been through it myself playing at centre half longer than I should and I know all of the signs and the movements. At his age, however fit you may feel, your body just lets you down and you try to compromise as any forward can push it five yards to the side or past you and you can't get there unless it's a last ditch lunge or block, and by doing that it compromises the whole defence. Amazing that you can post about something that's been as clear as day for the past eighteen months, the results back it up as do the performances and it's described as a witch hunt. The guy is too old, too slow, has one good game in ten in him and shouldn't form part of our defence, end of..

I want us to start winning games and being nice, kind or loyal isn't going to get us three points on a Saturday..

Quoted from barralad

Talk of Saturday being Collins last game is if I might venture an opinion well premature.
This is a player who a month ago played 87 minutes with a broken arm in what was unarguably our best 90 minutes of the season. When we are talking about needing players with the guts to get us out of the poor run we are in then Collins has them in spades. Whether he should've been rushed straight back after that injury is a moot point.
I know it was poor on Saturday but sometimes it's like the Salem witch(warlock) trials on here...

We've had one good performance out of 4 at home & one and a half out of 4 away - I'd say that's enough reason for fans to raise concerns.

Regarding DC, I watched him warm up on Saturday and I just don't think he's at it. Whether it's confidence or age, I just think Father Time has caught up with him.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

We've had one good performance out of 4 at home & one and a half out of 4 away - I'd say that's enough reason for fans to raise concerns.

Regarding DC, I watched him warm up on Saturday and I just don't think he's at it. Whether it's confidence or age, I just think Father Time has caught up with him.

You'll have to point out for me where I've said anywhere that we shouldn't be concerned. There's a wealth of difference between concern and scapegoating individual players.
I've read in this thread that Hendrie was having to tell Collins how to defend. I watched the back four pretty closely and the only person I saw Hendrie screaming at was Famewo when he was caught ball-watching and in no-mans land allowing his wide player to get in a dangerous cross.

Quoted from Bigdog

Don't agree Barra. No witch hunt from me. He's had the odd good game in him last season and one this. It's been coming a long time. He was very erratic and a big part of the problem last season with some really bad habits creeping in and even worse this season. Guts alone won't get us out of this mess. He's too slow, too vulnerable and unsettles what could be quite a sound defence for this level. When everyone is available, Davis, Hendrie, RHJ, Whitmore, Fox and Famewo, he should be nowhere near the team if we want to be progressive. I've been through it myself playing at centre half longer than I should and I know all of the signs and the movements. At his age, however fit you may feel, your body just lets you down and you try to compromise as any forward can push it five yards to the side or past you and you can't get there unless it's a last ditch lunge or block, and by doing that it compromises the whole defence. Amazing that you can post about something that's been as clear as day for the past eighteen months, the results back it up as do the performances and it's described as a witch hunt. The guy is too old, too slow, has one good game in ten in him and shouldn't form part of our defence, end of..

I want us to start winning games and being nice, kind or loyal isn't going to get us three points on a Saturday..

How many games do you attend a season?