It's Official, we're in trouble

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Don't know the Oldham no 9 but he looked a useful player.
Town need some results against teams in the bottom half. Recently the run of teams has been top half, including those right at the top.

Give the lads a chance and you might be surprised. If we don't get points from the bottom half we are in trouble, but don't panic yet mr manwairing.

Collins gave him the freedom of Blundell Park, it would have been embarrassing for their number nine if he didn't look useful..

Quoted from Bigdog

And this underlines how the younger generation view our club.. Oldham a big club that we can't compete with. FFS, God bless the Fenty generation. Another one saying we shouldn't expect to beat at home a side that are destined for mid-table in League Two. I really really fooking despair sometimes. The sad thing is that they're right. Years of depravation of investment, foresight, success, excitement and entertainment have reduced us to the reality that we're bottom feeders who can't compete with Lincoln, Scunthorpe, Bury, Rochdale, Newport, Doncaster, Oldham, Yeovil etc etc etc. Who the fook can we expect to beat? Thanks JF, that's a sound body of work you've put in at our expense the past 17 years.. Please name a realistic price (£0) and fook off and take your "can't attract any inward investment for years" and "competitive budgets" with you..

Yes the Oldham are a big club comment came as a surprise - to the people of Oldham!

You are right in what you say - anybody who can support Fenty after years of failure and nil inward investment is baffling to say the least.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Yes the Oldham are a big club comment came as a surprise - to the people of Oldham!

You are right in what you say - anybody who can support Fenty after years of failure and nil inward investment is baffling to say the least.

The frustration is that this is not exactly news. The phenomenal ability of John Fenty & his stooges to continue in their regime of failure & mediocrity without outright revolt is spectacular. The willingness of Mariners young & old to accept that just having a football club is enough is mind-blowing.

Wake up! This is a club with 140 years of history. The last 10% of that history has been the worst time in that history. Our ambition is to stand still. Progress is apparently not an option.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

The frustration is that this is not exactly news. The phenomenal ability of John Fenty & his stooges to continue in their regime of failure & mediocrity without outright revolt is spectacular. The willingness of Mariners young & old to accept that just having a football club is enough is mind-blowing.

Wake up! This is a club with 140 years of history. The last 10% of that history has been the worst time in that history. Our ambition is to stand still. Progress is apparently not an option.

It has baffled and perturbed me in equal measure for a long time.

A mate said to me tonight forget Fenty for a minute and concentrate on whether Jolley can get it right on the field, which is fair enough, but we are going round in ever decreasing circles with Fenty at the centre. What will it take for the majority to revolt against his control of the club - another spell in the Conference?

We have not progressed in any area whatsoever since the day he took over. From my vantage point in the Pontoon I looked across towards our newest stand where he sits. The cheap perspex panels that should offer some protection from the elements in the next few weeks are missing or broken. We didn't have any ball boys today. Some members of staff as they shuffle around the perimeter look unkempt and uninspired.

All small points in the bigger picture of course, but there is no "go" in the club whatsoever. It seems to be stuck in the 1980's and that is being kind.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

It has baffled and perturbed me in equal measure for a long time.

A mate said to me tonight forget Fenty for a minute and concentrate on whether Jolley can get it right on the field, which is fair enough, but we are going round in ever decreasing circles with Fenty at the centre. What will it take for the majority to revolt against his control of the club - another spell in the Conference?

We have not progressed in any area whatsoever since the day he took over. From my vantage point in the Pontoon I looked across towards our newest stand where he sits. The cheap perspex panels that should offer some protection from the elements in the next few weeks are missing or broken. We didn't have any ball boys today. Some members of staff as they shuffle around the perimeter look unkempt and uninspired.

All small points in the bigger picture of course, but there is no "go" in the club whatsoever. It seems to be stuck in the 1980's and that is being kind.

We were debating the shortage of ball boys today too. We thought that Dee Bee must have sold out of Haribos.

MJ  might not have played the game at professional level but he has the top coaching badges and has been employed at 3 prem clubs,

That's his problem imo, he has been used to talking tactics to top class footballers,

He might spend hours going through different tactics and formations with our L2 players and I think they can not grasp what he wants,

When he asks do you understand ?

None of them dare say" no I am confused " because that would mean they will not be in the team,

Back to basics should be the order of the day and until we get any more players in lets play the ones we have got in their right positions and keep the formation and tactics simple.

You never know it might work and we win a few games.

Quoted from grimsby pete

MJ  might not have played the game at professional level but he has the top coaching badges and has been employed at 3 prem clubs,

That's his problem imo, he has been used to talking tactics to top class footballers,

He might spend hours going through different tactics and formations with our L2 players and I think they can not grasp what he wants,

When he asks do you understand ?

None of them dare say" no I am confused " because that would mean they will not be in the team,

Back to basics should be the order of the day and until we get any more players in lets play the ones we have got in their right positions and keep the formation and tactics simple.

You never know it might work and we win a few games.

We might be able to hide behind...suspensions, poor decisions etc for a while but i sat there today and i still have no idea what formation we were playing, did the players ???
Now...i except that the formation may change. ...that the tactical nuances may pass me by as i am not UEFA pro trained ...but.....i do know we have assembled a team that pretty much to a man.....is incapable/unwilling to take on their opponent....never mind capable of beating them.....almost without exception every time one of our players was faced up by an opponent they checked back....Vernam ran at players but he was the only one.

Whether that is self belief,tactical or just purely a fact that our players have little pace or guile i will leave with you.....but if we are incapable/unwilling to take on an opponent on then we are going to struggle.

We've been in trouble since Fenty went in the GET and spouted the infamous words "I always wanted to own a football club" since then what has he got right?

I think that psychologist MJ brought in toward the end of last season should make another visit

Quoted from grimsby pete

MJ  might not have played the game at professional level but he has the top coaching badges and has been employed at 3 prem clubs,

That's his problem imo, he has been used to talking tactics to top class footballers,

He might spend hours going through different tactics and formations with our L2 players and I think they can not grasp what he wants,

When he asks do you understand ?

None of them dare say" no I am confused " because that would mean they will not be in the team,

Back to basics should be the order of the day and until we get any more players in lets play the ones we have got in their right positions and keep the formation and tactics simple.

You never know it might work and we win a few games.

You might not be far wrong there Pete.

I know that both MJ and his assistant put a lot of work into analysing Town's performances and therefore put a great deal of work into deciding teams and tactics for each individual game and I wonder if they are putting too much pressure onto players to play different systems each game.

I also think that opposition managers can change their teams too easily to match our style of play and that is why in the second halves of some matches we are being totally out played.

My big worry is that our players are just not good enough to adapt to so many different tactics, or they are just not good enough for this level of football.