Oldham Match Thread

#GTFC XI: McKeown, Famewo, Collins, Davis, Hendrie, Woolford, Rose, Hessenthaler, Embleton, Cook, Thomas.

Subs: Russell, Hooper, Robles, Clifton, Vernam, Whitmore, Pringle. #WeAreTown https://t.co/suL1XdnA0g

Surprised to see Whitmore dropped, been our strongest CB IMO

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

#GTFC XI: McKeown, Famewo, Collins, Davis, Hendrie, Woolford, Rose, Hessenthaler, Embleton, Cook, Thomas.

Subs: Russell, Hooper, Robles, Clifton, Vernam, Whitmore, Pringle. #WeAreTown https://t.co/suL1XdnA0g

Surprised to see Whitmore dropped, been our strongest CB IMO

Agree but Collins wont be dropped when hes fit so its going to be Davis or Whitmore for the bench

Good to see Embleton get a start, good stong side with players in their strongest positions.

Come on boys!

Whitmore didn't cover himself in glory for the first goal last week with the poor pass to Woolford but then more importantly allowing the no.10 inside to shoot on his right foot which MJ has said since he warned the players about.

Interested to see how this eleven lines up. Could be 442, 433 or 4231.

Lets get 3 points today lads UTM

Quoted from Tommy

Interested to see how this eleven lines up. Could be 442, 433 or 4231.

But hopefully end up 2-0

Good to see Pringle on the bench he might get 10 mins if we need him.

Can't complain with the line up, more positive about my 1-0 win prediction now.

Key that Rose and Hess are on full form, win the ball and distribute effectively.

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

#GTFC XI: McKeown, Famewo, Collins, Davis, Hendrie, Woolford, Rose, Hessenthaler, Embleton, Cook, Thomas.

Subs: Russell, Hooper, Robles, Clifton, Vernam, Whitmore, Pringle. #WeAreTown https://t.co/suL1XdnA0g

Surprised to see Whitmore dropped, been our strongest CB IMO

He was absolutely awful last week. At fault for the first goal and looked panicked in every subsequent attack. I think he might have dropped him for his own good this week. It was a strangely shaky performance for him.

Anyone know how we've set up?

Looking good up to the final third again
UTM

Quoted from cardiffmariner

Anyone know how we've set up?

4-4-2 - ish

JT thinks Hess on the left & Woolford playing 'deeper'.

Thomas playing as more advanced forward.

As tagg says above, playing quite well - without creating loads of chances. Famewo, Hess, Vernam playing well. Thomas hasn't managed to get into the game as much as we'd like but does add a presence we've been missing.

Think vernam coming on for cook has improved us personally. We look comfortable in defence but disjointed, especially out wide, when attacking in my opinion

We sound like we are playing well but nothing to show for itt. Frustratin especially if we give a sloppy goal away and lose again!?

Playing OK, Embleton missed a one on one and its just a tadge dodgy at the back. We just dont have that final ball or if someone gets to the byline in the area theres a lack of options available. Rose is the pick of the players so far.

Get fook all from the ref today 👊👊👊👊

We could do with a much needed 3 pts today........cmon Town.

Quoted from TheGoalKipper

We sound like we are playing well but nothing to show for itt. Frustratin especially if we give a sloppy goal away and lose again!?

Not really. Started well but Oldham more on top as the half went on. Both teams have had one clear cut chance in a poor game with two poor teams playing unconfident disjointed football. We're certainly going more direct into the front two. If Collins keeps giving the forward he's marking enough time and space to control and turn because he's dropping off too much, it will cost us. Other defenders are getting tight why can't he? Davis winning every header, Rose battling well, Embleton and Woolford fairly invisible. Cook did well until he had to go off, Vernam and Hessenthaler doing well picking up second balls as Thomas is providing more presence up top.

3 points up for grabs. JT doing my head in with his interpretation of events and we're only a few games into my i-Follow season..

Quoted from Bigdog

Not really. Started well but Oldham more on top as the half went on. Both teams have had one clear cut chance in a poor game with two poor teams playing unconfident disjointed football. We're certainly going more direct into the front two. If Collins keeps giving the forward he's marking enough time and space to control and turn because he's dropping off too much, it will cost us. Other defenders are getting tight why can't he? Davis winning every header, Rose battling well, Embleton and Woolford fairly invisible. Cook did well until he had to go off, Vernam and Hessenthaler doing well picking up second balls as Thomas is providing more presence up top.

3 points up for grabs. JT doing my head in with his interpretation of events and we're only a few games into my i-Follow season..

Really??
Just shows about opinions
I'm enjoying the game.
Think Town were on top apart from the final third again..

We just can score a fookin goal 😢😢😢😢

0-1  

Quoted from Bigdog

Not really. Started well but Oldham more on top as the half went on. Both teams have had one clear cut chance in a poor game with two poor teams playing unconfident disjointed football. We're certainly going more direct into the front two. If Collins keeps giving the forward he's marking enough time and space to control and turn because he's dropping off too much, it will cost us. Other defenders are getting tight why can't he? Davis winning every header, Rose battling well, Embleton and Woolford fairly invisible. Cook did well until he had to go off, Vernam and Hessenthaler doing well picking up second balls as Thomas is providing more presence up top.

3 points up for grabs. JT doing my head in with his interpretation of events and we're only a few games into my i-Follow season..

Wow flipping hell... surprise surprise

Bollox

Double bollox

0-2.....

Do not be surprised if Jolley is sacked after this game honestly

This simply isn't good enough.

I didn’t think we could be any shitter than last season.. I really didn’t

Collins needs dropping. He’s not up to the job, we’ve got to really get to the root of these issues at the club. It cannot just be the management and playing staff.

Attendances will drop from today onwards and it’ll be hard to bring people back.

Quoted from OllieGTFC

Do not be surprised if Jolley is sacked after this game honestly

Who would take over from Jolley then, there is no one available, we have to stick with Jolley we have to stop the chopping and changing of managers.

Here we go again. Surprise suprise

Nothing has changed from last season can’t defend can’t score relegation written all over it !!

As much as some may not like it in reality jolleys job is seriously in jeopardy right now.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

As much as some may not like it in reality jolleys job is seriously in jeopardy right now.

And rightly so after this last few weeks

Collins and Hendrie just back if and let them have free shots on goal, haven't scored in 4 games and lost 4 in a row. not good enough

Can't score and can't defend! Relegation fodder if ever I saw it!

Grimsby have no wingers, no width strikers have no service.

Quoted from fiveallive

Who would take over from Jolley then, there is no one available, we have to stick with Jolley we have to stop the chopping and changing of managers.

Got to be someone out there, we made a mistake letting Slade have 19 games without a win we just scrapped relegation last season in my  opinion, going to bite us on the bum if this carries on

Quoted from fiveallive

Grimsby have no wingers, no width strikers have no service.

And we are too slow all over pitch

To date only Macclesfield, and hopefully they are going to be one of the relegated 2, are the only team not to score against us.

its a good job morecombe and macclesfield are just as bad.

Are the players following Jolleys instructions this time ?

Quoted from jonnyboy82

As much as some may not like it in reality jolleys job is seriously in jeopardy right now.

If we keeping changing managers there is no continuity we have to keep a manager and give him a chance to build.

When you rely on free transfers and loans every year, Jolley is working on scraps.

The issue is no width, Cardwell is the only forward who busts a gut.

And again I am not wasting my money watching a shower of sh*t week in week out it’s not on at all

And another thing I don’t think Jolley knows his best 11, bottom of the league come Christmas

I don't know who to lash out at but this is absolute f***ing sh1t and I am angry!

Seriously what do we do ??

The performances and results are not acceptable but john fenty will be in a cant win position right now , does he sack him and be accused of being too hasty or wait it out and be accused of waiting too long and doing a slade.

Whatever happens its now a problen.

Quoted from fiveallive

When you rely on free transfers and loans every year, Jolley is working on scraps.

balderdash, its only a few weeks ago that everyone was raving about the better quality signings and loans we've got this season.The squad is much stronger than Slade's, the problem is Jolley, either he's a excrement tactician and coach or its so complicated either technically or more like theoretically that yer average footballer can't flipping understand it

No doubt it will all be the fault of the players for not following instructions today

Quoted from fiveallive

If we keeping changing managers there is no continuity we have to keep a manager and give him a chance to build.

When you rely on free transfers and loans every year, Jolley is working on scraps.

The issue is no width, Cardwell is the only forward who busts a gut.

No disrespect but our recent results and performances suggest its more than just a lack of width.

ffs this is bad 3-0

Many of us didn’t like hurst, but least we was solid and scoring goals, if he had stayed I personally if we would be in league one by now

Wow 3-0 ..you know what red cross me all you want i couldnt give a flying fvck if hes sacked tonight..

Totally unacceptable, his players his team and no excuses.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Seriously what do we do ??

The performances and results are not acceptable but john fenty will be in a cant win position right now , does he sack him and be accused of being too hasty or wait it out and be accused of waiting too long and doing a slade.

Whatever happens its now a problen.

Either way it's not Fenty's fault this time, we wanted Jolley, Fenty agreed, we got him and we're stuck with him until Christmas (no longer please)

flipping dogshit. Performance players formation management

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Wow 3-0 ..you know what red cross me all you want i couldnt give a flying fvck if hes sacked tonight..

Totally unacceptable, his players his team and no excuses.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Quoted from OllieGTFC

Many of us didn’t like hurst, but least we was solid and scoring goals, if he had stayed I personally if we would be in league one by now

He could be available soon

Quoted from bawarmy

He could be available soon

No chance he will come back here

John terry ? Wants to a manager, can see defend aswell

Another pathetic home performance and result and that's a disgrace. An absolute disgrace.

Quoted from Ipswin

balderdash, its only a few weeks ago that everyone was raving about the better quality signings and loans we've got this season.The squad is much stronger than Slade's, the problem is Jolley, either he's a excrement tactician and coach or its so complicated either technically or more like theoretically that yer average footballer can't flipping understand it

No doubt it will all be the fault of the players for not following instructions today

Were relying on flipping free transfers and loans every season what do you expect, we can't get players to here, its a run down town and club.

Hessenthaler is our best signing and he won't great today like most players.

We will just have go back to 4-5-1 for the rest of the season.

Quoted from OllieGTFC

No chance he will come back here

We've got a loser now we don't want another one thank you

Poor, poor, poor, we are a nothing side, spineless, gutless and so weak, kitten urine is stronger than us.  

Quoted from chaos33

Another pathetic home performance and result and that's a disgrace. An absolute disgrace.

What do you expect from a manager whose previous experience is a Swedish relegation and running a team in a local Subbuteo league

Quoted from Ipswin

We've got a loser now we don't want another one thank you

That much a loser got us back in the football league and now a championship manager, also nearly got Shrewsbury Promoted and he never been relegated so says a lot to be honest

Why us ?

He seemed the perfect match but in reality we have been conned.

2 wins at home in  17 now  

Quoted from jonnyboy82

No disrespect but our recent results and performances suggest its more than just a lack of width.

Without width how you going to create goals, we don't cross balls into the box, forwards get no service, dosen't matter if you got Scott Vernon or Wes Thomas a centre forward needs balls into the box.

We never make there defence or keeper work, with crosses coming into the box.

Collins has to be dropped. 2 goals down to him just running away from the strikers when they get the ball 30 yards out and letting them run into the area, rule one dont turn your back and dont let them cut inside if your defending 1 on 1,    shocking.

That's enough for me, MJ has had enough games now to show us how progression is. He has 2 sidekicks assisting him, so extra wages being flung out, and its just not working. The Jolley trust doesn't work for me. A travesty in Bignott getting the boot after a 3-0 win at Blackpool if MJ keeps his job. So where do we go from here? Its a dire situation and needs to be addressed now. MJ said before the season started that he wants to make Blundell Park a fortress, and all this malarkey off the soccer pitch by being smarmy with fans, it doesn't work for me. The players don't want to play for him, its de ja vous again. Get a hard headed manager in who will shake them up and play, its dire right now. Maybe Shaun Cunnington and Cockers were at the match for a reason, sign them up Fenty to take over. End of.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Collins has to be dropped. 2 goals down to him just running away from the strikers when they get the ball 30 yards out and letting them run into the area, rule one dont turn your back and dont let them cut inside if your defending 1 on 1,    shocking.

Collins has been the weak link this season, I think father time is catching up with him unfortunately.

Quoted from OllieGTFC

No chance he will come back here

He's been spoiled to much.

Quoted from OllieGTFC

That much a loser got us back in the football league and now a championship manager, also nearly got Shrewsbury Promoted and he never been relegated so says a lot to be honest

If you read the thread correctly, you will see that a poster commented that Hurst could be back, meaning he is likely to be sacked at Ipswich (which unfortunately, as I can't stand the twit, he isn't)

because he is proving to be a bigger loser there than Jolley is at BP

He wasn't a loser at Grimsby he was just Mr Average ear-cupping cocky littleYorkie illegitimate who took us up (just) after 6 seasons of shite

Get John Terry in we need a leader. On the bright side Ipswich lost.

I sat there in the pontoon, nervously anticipating a spanking from the get go, yet we set off pretty well and after 25 minutes you could sense people actually thinking and feeling we had gone out and showed some promise, Cook goes off, Vernham  comes on, who should've been.doing the same job as Cook but wasn't,and it all went to rats mammaries....
Collins has to be dropped now, he's too slow and he's backed up far to easily in fear of being turned over.
Famewo tried hard but put the ball into touch far too often...
Woolie, why the hell is on the left side of midfield when we all know he is far more suited to running down the right and taking players on with trickery!!..
Sorry but I'm sick of hearing the same old lines from Jolley and if the next 3 games bare any resemblance to todays shower it's tine for him and limbrick to be shown the revolving door,