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Never heard of root cause analysis?


No is it a bit like root canal surgery?


I have an inferiority complex-It's not a very good one though.
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No is it a bit like root canal surgery?


Does it hurt? Does it Hurt?



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The board didn't decide they want to play the ball out from the back and then sign a centre back who can't do that from the worst team in the division last season. The board didn't decide that we don't need any wide players and then fill those positions with players who've never played there. The board don't pick a 37 year old who can't run and spends the majority of the game boll0cking everybody whilst dragging the defence into our box and inviting pressure. The board don't stick a short guy with no physical presence up front and expect him to somehow make something out of p1ss poor service and shite long balls from the keeper.

The board did hire the manager that everybody has been creaming over for the last 5 months, yet all his mistakes are somehow the board's fault. Fickleness of the highest order!
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So the board hired Jolley and then don't accept responsibility for his mistakes? I'd say that was pretty fickle too.
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The board didn't decide they want to play the ball out from the back and then sign a centre back who can't do that from the worst team in the division last season. The board didn't decide that we don't need any wide players and then fill those positions with players who've never played there. The board don't pick a 37 year old who can't run and spends the majority of the game boll0cking everybody whilst dragging the defence into our box and inviting pressure. The board don't stick a short guy with no physical presence up front and expect him to somehow make something out of p1ss poor service and shite long balls from the keeper.

The board did hire the manager that everybody has been creaming over for the last 5 months, yet all his mistakes are somehow the board's fault. Fickleness of the highest order!


Agree with everything you say above on this one. The playing side this season has hardly anything to do with the board at all if they are maintaining a laissez faire relationship with the manager. There are many other subjects to blame the board for. This isn't one of them..
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The board didn't decide they want to play the ball out from the back and then sign a centre back who can't do that from the worst team in the division last season. The board didn't decide that we don't need any wide players and then fill those positions with players who've never played there. The board don't pick a 37 year old who can't run and spends the majority of the game boll0cking everybody whilst dragging the defence into our box and inviting pressure. The board don't stick a short guy with no physical presence up front and expect him to somehow make something out of p1ss poor service and shite long balls from the keeper.

The board did hire the manager that everybody has been creaming over for the last 5 months, yet all his mistakes are somehow the board's fault. Fickleness of the highest order!


I take those points on board this is what the board did do:

Hire Mike Newell who only kept us up first time of asking because Luton (now in League One) were deducted 30 points. Nobody would touch him with a barge pole.
Appoint Neil Woods and allow him to oversee the worst run in our history before inevitably taking us out of the league.
Not matching the ambition of the manager who brought us back into the league by preventing him from signing extra coaches but later allowing Russell Slade to do just that.
Hiring Marcus Bignot who was an absolute fruitcake.
Replacing him with Russell Slade who was on a hiding to nothing here given the way he left last time. The warning signs were there with his previous appointments too.
Being filmed by fans stating that all managers are 6 games from the sack but allowing his best mate (the prat in a hat) 12 games.

We got away with it last season by the skin of our teeth so forgive fans for these reactions. The board give managers the budget and we as fans are unsure how competitive that is. We only have the managers and boards word on that and the manager is unlikely to say that his boss has given him a terrible budget!

Overseeing all of this is John Fenty and the rest of his gang. It is time for some fresh faces in the board room. He isn't going to deliver a stadium and he already has a legacy to be remembered by: the man who oversaw relegation to non-league.

The time has come Mr Fenty to write off the benign loan and sell your shares for £1. We haven't needed any of his money for some time now do I am sure the club would cope just fine. Perhaps he could then concentrate on attending council meetings; such as the one about the motion for raising council tax for most of NELC that he failed to attend earlier this week despite proposing the idea.
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The board didn't decide they want to play the ball out from the back and then sign a centre back who can't do that from the worst team in the division last season. The board didn't decide that we don't need any wide players and then fill those positions with players who've never played there. The board don't pick a 37 year old who can't run and spends the majority of the game boll0cking everybody whilst dragging the defence into our box and inviting pressure. The board don't stick a short guy with no physical presence up front and expect him to somehow make something out of p1ss poor service and shite long balls from the keeper.

The board did hire the manager that everybody has been creaming over for the last 5 months, yet all his mistakes are somehow the board's fault. Fickleness of the highest order!


Can’t argue with that let’s just hope “the board” are big enough to deal with the issue if action is required, I’m still optimistic it won’t be required.




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They could start by telling us what the fcuk is happening regarding the new ground. Then they could reinstate the SLO that actually gives a sh1t. Catering, toilets. !!!


Attract inward investment and more board members with fresh ideas for the first time in years would be a start, talk to Councillor Wheatley nicely, engage with Nigel Lowther who has a clear idea of what the town of Grimsby needs.. etc etc etc

The general malaise and sterility at the club is well set, it clouds the town, the fanbase, the Trust and also it seems to have transcended quickly to the new management team to some extent as MJ has more than once mentioned bunker mentality this season. Nearly 900 fans at Bury this afternoon and somehow the manager has to build a bunker to protect him and the team from fans. This is the bit of influence over the playing side the board has to be culpable of as no one at the club likes the fans.

Don't think it was wise to start a thread against the board re the playing side this season as there are other subjects where the board and others deserve greater scrutiny to be fair..
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I take those points on board this is what the board did do:

Hire Mike Newell who only kept us up first time of asking because Luton (now in League One) were deducted 30 points. Nobody would touch him with a barge pole.
Appoint Neil Woods and allow him to oversee the worst run in our history before inevitably taking us out of the league.
Not matching the ambition of the manager who brought us back into the league by preventing him from signing extra coaches but later allowing Russell Slade to do just that.
Hiring Marcus Bignot who was an absolute fruitcake.
Replacing him with Russell Slade who was on a hiding to nothing here given the way he left last time. The warning signs were there with his previous appointments too.
Being filmed by fans stating that all managers are 6 games from the sack but allowing his best mate (the prat in a hat) 12 games.

We got away with it last season by the skin of our teeth so forgive fans for these reactions. The board give managers the budget and we as fans are unsure how competitive that is. We only have the managers and boards word on that and the manager is unlikely to say that his boss has given him a terrible budget!

Overseeing all of this is John Fenty and the rest of his gang. It is time for some fresh faces in the board room. He isn't going to deliver a stadium and he already has a legacy to be remembered by: the man who oversaw relegation to non-league.

The time has come Mr Fenty to write off the benign loan and sell your shares for £1. We haven't needed any of his money for some time now do I am sure the club would cope just fine. Perhaps he could then concentrate on attending council meetings; such as the one about the motion for raising council tax for most of NELC that he failed to attend earlier this week despite proposing the idea.


Absolutely right and it would take you and I about half an hour to type out the full catalogue of mess ups by the present board. Nobody else would just carry on as if nothing had happened would they? What is he getting out of it? He is still a rich man despite his loans to GTFC which no doubt he will legally ensure he gets back at some future date, so why doesn't he do the club a gigantic favour and move aside?

Just publicly moving aside and stating what he wants financially to give it up would give the club a huge boost. He cannot be the owner forever, he hasn't got the cash to spare or the drive to make anything on or off the pitch any better so what is he in it for??

Why is he arrogant enough to think HE has to be the man to call the shots? As you say we need new ideas, a new vision and a new way of doing things and most of all new money to get us out of the doldrums. We have the history, we have got decent fan numbers for the level we are at and despite the doom and gloom merchants we have potential to be league 1 or better.
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Absolutely right and it would take you and I about half an hour to type out the full catalogue of mess ups by the present board. Nobody else would just carry on as if nothing had happened would they? What is he getting out of it? He is still a rich man despite his loans to GTFC which no doubt he will legally ensure he gets back at some future date, so why doesn't he do the club a gigantic favour and move aside?

Just publicly moving aside and stating what he wants financially to give it up would give the club a huge boost. He cannot be the owner forever, he hasn't got the cash to spare or the drive to make anything on or off the pitch any better so what is he in it for??

Why is he arrogant enough to think HE has to be the man to call the shots? As you say we need new ideas, a new vision and a new way of doing things and most of all new money to get us out of the doldrums. We have the history, we have got decent fan numbers for the level we are at and despite the doom and gloom merchants we have potential to be league 1 or better.


I agree with all of the above apart from the assumption that we have the potential to be league 1 or better. After too long in tin pot, too much instability since we came back, a board which only provides us with a “trading budget” and a p1ss poor home with a p1ss poor capacity I’m not sure I and more importantly new investors recognise any sort of potential.



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