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Ipswin
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I can't imagine there are many days in the year when you wake up with a positive feeling Swin.


On Christmas Day this year it will be 60 years since I first watched Grimsby Town

If you reach that milestone lets see how flipping positive you feel



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Hammered by Slade's equipment?

Sorry, but total BS.

Yesterday's team..

McKeown - MJ new contract
Davis - MJ signing
Whitmore - MJ signing
Collins - MJ new contract
Fox - MJ signing
Welsh - MJ signing
Woolford - MJ new contract
M Rose - RS signing
Hessenthaler - MJ signing
Clifton - MJ new contract
Cook - MJ signing

Famewo - MJ signing
Vernam - MJ signing
Hooper - RS signing

So, 12 of the 14 who featured yesterday are either MJ signings or he gave them new contracts.

To apportion even a fraction of the blame for our current plight on RS is frankly ridiculous.

MJ was given everything he asked for during pre-season. The same things that weren't given to Hurst that lead to him walking. He needs to deliver ASAP.


But he managed to save the football club with 'Slade`s Equipment', in which Slade couldn't find a victory with but Jolley managed to find 3 with. Without boring everybody to death with anti-football either.

This year, we have a lot of new players, we've had a lot of chopping and changing. Some necessary, some self inflicted. But it is 7 games ffs. Slade went 12 games without a win and just 4 points before he was relieved of his position. At least we have 5 points from 7 games already.
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On Christmas Day this year it will be 60 years since I first watched Grimsby Town

If you reach that milestone lets see how flipping positive you feel



And 40 since you last saw them?
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And 40 since you last saw them?


Unfortunately not I witnessed last years gutless performance at Cambridge and sadly I expect no change this season either



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One other point to consider is that Cardwell started most of the games after Jolley took charge last season. I've questioned where our 'physical presence' up front will come with the forwards who have been playing but perhaps Cardwell's absence through injury has messed up plans more than you might think. I don't imagine he'll ever score that many, but as a hard-working and mobile big bloke up front with a bit of ability, perhaps he would enable our more skilful forwards to show their stuff?
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Never heard so much shite less than ten games in and asking how many games the manager should get.  ???

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Never heard so much shite less than ten games in and asking how many games the manager should get.  ???

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Quoted from Ipswin


On Christmas Day this year it will be 60 years since I first watched Grimsby Town

If you reach that milestone lets see how flipping positive you feel



Ipswin, don't want to spoil the surprise but Mr Fenty is arranging a special presentation for you at this years Boxing Day game.
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Don't forget there are still a few players on big contracts who might not play much but are still eating up a large part of the wage bill that might be spent on better players.


There are only 4 player contracts that predate Jolley becoming manager...

JJ Hooper
Mitch Rose
Paul Dixon
Harry Cardwell

The fact that 3 have played fairly regularly (when not suspended) and the other was a regular at the end of last season but is injured suggests that MJ is happy with them. If he wasn’t he could have tried to move them on like Sam Kelly.
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Far too early to even think about sacking anyone, at any club.  Yes we're in a bad position in the league and more worrying is the poor performances, but a season has never finished after 7 games.

I share the concerns about the constant chopping and changing of system, style and players.  I find it very difficult to argue with the Bignot comparisons if I'm honest.  Jolley, like Bignot, talks a good game and says the right things.  He talks about a style and a Grimsby way, as did Bignot.  Jolley has also built a squad that is somewhat lopsided, we don't have any width yet options galore in central areas.  That all said I think you can find enough comparisons with any two people if you look hard enough.

Hall-Johnson, Pringle, Embleton, Cardwell and Thomas are all to come back/in and potentially will change how the side looks altogether.  In Pringle and Thomas there's proven quality at a level higher than that, in attacking areas.  That can't be overlooked and how much of an impact they could make.  Cardwell was absolutely key to the turnaround last season, I think his role is often overlooked.  I think a front three of Cardwell, Cook and Thomas would cause no end of problems to teams and would also mitigate our lack of natural width.

The OP was quite rightly shot down for suggesting we should put a time-frame on Jolley's tenure.  But I don't think it's right that we can just say 'In Jolley We Trust'.  Yes he's trying to build something, yes he has to be given time to do so.  However we also have to make sure we don't get dragged into a relegation scrap either.
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