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I do believe it was always a gamble with MJ, but I still I think it's one that will pay off, as I've stated before this is now all but his team including backroom staff and everyone knows to get the players to build partnerships, settle into a set way of playing will take time and as yet MJ has admitted he hasn't had the 11 starters he wants available to him yet, once this happens then the true judgement can start...The team is evolving, unlike the board which needs dissolving!!...
Will add this, got to give MJ another transfer window but, and a big but, if with a dozen games to go to the end of the season we are staring down the barrel of non league and our play hasn't improved then and only then should his tenure be questioned


All managers are a gamble, even successful ones sometimes struggle to recreate the same success when they move. He either gets results and everyone is happy, or he doesn't and gets fired.

It is nearly impossible for a manager to build for the long term, because six straight defeats and he is normally on his way. Everything has to be looked at through the prism of the first team results, and I certainly would not wait till we are "staring down the barrel of non league" before making a change.

I am sure it won't come to that; I am praying it won't come to that but Michael Jolley will know he has to get results or his dream of reinventing the club will come to an early end.

Lets hope the first good result comes on Saturday - I am looking forward to seeing Wes Thomas as I am really hoping he will make a big difference.
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Or some of our players are just not very good.



……..at taking onboard instructions. Yes I agree.


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I think we all want him to succeed but I’m realistic enough to expect a lower half position for his first season. But if we are in a relegation spot at the start of the new year then we need a change, Jolley is a clever man I’m sure he would know this.


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Let’s be honest, football management is one of the most results-based and cut throat professions anywhere in the sporting and business world.

We find ourselves in the early stages of a season following a narrow escape from relegation (thanks to Jolley no less) looking unlikely to win a league game right now and with only three sides below us in the league. One of those, Notts County, I expect to pull away sooner rather than later leaving only Macclesfield and Morecambe who do at least look like they’re there for the long haul.

It will ultimately come down results and nothing else.

What about Jolley’s unique back story? His Cambridge education. His 9/11 experience. The fact he gave up a promising and lucrative trading career to pursue his dream of an unlikely career in football.

The fact that he seems to be a genuinely nice bloke. Intelligent. Articulate. Sincere. That he commits his own time to good local causes. To commitments outside of his basic job description. That he turns up at people’s birthday barbecues?

His youth? His apparently modern approach to coaching and the game in general. That he seems to want to play football the right way. The fact he kept us up last season, somehow, when all hope seemed lost?

I, I think like most Town fans, like and admire all of those things about Michael Jolley. But what do they mean, really?

Not a lot, most likely. Perhaps at most, that he would get an additional two or three games to turn things around should things get really sticky, than an otherwise less likeable character might be afforded.

Don’t get me wrong, we’re not there yet - not by a long shot. But if push comes to shove, and results don’t improve he’ll find himself staring down the same barrel as Marcus Bignot and Russell Slade.

I hope upon hope that never comes to fruition, because I think given time Grimsby Town and Michael Jolley could be really good for one another. But it would be naive to think that his likeable character makes him impervious to failure or the sack. A result and performance on Saturday would go a long way at the minute...


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There is nothing wrong with Jolley its the players that are at fault,

BUT

They will learn and we will get better,


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Aslong as we pick up some results and aren't in the bottom 3 or 4 after 15 games I'm happy to give him the season. I still believe he will start to pick up points sooner rather than later...  Anyone remember kidderminster quite a few years back (can't remember exact year) I think they lost like the first 5 games and was at the bottom for the first 15 odd games then came flying up the league and just missed out on promotion.
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Bet when we start wining matches this board will go quite. They do like a good moan on the Fishy.😱😱😱
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Bet when we start wining matches this board will go quite. They do like a good moan on the Fishy.😱😱😱


Go quite what? mental or just quiet
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There is nothing wrong with Jolley its the players that are at fault,

,



According to Jolley



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You can’t blame Jolley for Whitmore’s poor pass that gave Bury their first goal.
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