A solution to this B team Fiasco ?

how about add one space to each of league one, two and the national (25 competing). Those spots are all St George's Park Fc. they only have English players and cant get promoted or relegated. They compete the same and the english players are drawn from the top English players currently available for loans.

Quoted from horsforthmariner

The problem with English football was never an issue surrounding B-Teams. There's been talk in both Germany and Spain to scrap B-Teams as they are a waste of money.

Germany and Spain both have far more coaches than us and have a history of possession based football. This is where the FA (are finally, but rightly) now focusing on.

The fact that so many England players have found a route through lower and even non league shows a strength of our system and not a weakness.

The reason I oppose B teams is that I believe i will stifle development and encourage uncompetiveness something that will harm the English National team as well as the game as a whole.

According to one daily paper Gareth Southgate backs the Checkertrade Trophy because he thinks it's " an important vehicle for homegrown players". I would have thought that his experience managing the developing England squad would give him some insight into what is required for young footballers development. Last season 118 players from the invited teams were English and under 21.

How about leave the league structure as it is as there's nothing wrong with it and the whole thing shouldn't be set up with the principal aim of serving the interests of half a dozen clubs sat right at the top, rolling in cash already?

How about we adopt the Spanish league, were you are only allowed one manager throughout one season, less managers getting the sack and MAYBE more willing to use the youth players, rather than the foreign imports, in the knowledge that they have a season, rather than 5/6 games to get it right.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

If the premier league are so adamant about their B teams being allowed league status, which we all know is their ultimate plan, then set up a B league...each premier league club has the ability to self fund the notion and this would leave the EFL clubs out and allow us to get back to playing for the "football league" trophy....

But it's not the Premiersh*t that's pushing for this. It's the EFL trying to keep a cup competition alive that is aimed at the bottom two leagues.

Quoted from denni266

How about the premsheit just do one or set up there own separate league for them only and leave us alone

I have mentioned this before and also added,

The B team travels down on the same day as the 1st team and play against each other after the 1st team game has finished.

It would be interesting to see how many of the crowd stay behind to watch them.

What is the problem that the idea of B teams is trying to solve?

That due to improved scouting at the top level, fewer emerging players get exposed to first team football at a young age than they used to because they find themselves lost in the ‘development’ systems of big clubs rather than being blooded for their local team, a la Gary Croft, John Oster etc. I don’t think we’d have seen the likes of those to at Town aged 16 in the current climate.

The problem with the current solution, or at least the one it aspires to become (i.e. b-sides competing in the football league pyramid) is that it fails to recognise that lower league football in England is unlike anywhere else in the world. Attendances at every single level below the Prem are many multiples of those of the equivalent levels in countries like Spain, Italy and even Germany where, it has to be said, they get a lot right from the fans’ perspective.

In introducing B teams, you ultimately destroy the sanctity, history and tradition of the English game and in doing so, you kill the clubs these sides are wanting to compete against. It won’t work in this country for that reason, but there would be serious casualties before that realisation set in.

So how about a solution that doesn’t kill clubs like Town, but seeks to actively help them whilst still benefitting the development of ‘elite’ young players?

Now, there’s a lot I don’t like about American sport (not least the franchising aspect) however they have created a far more equal competitive environment over there than we have in world football.

One aspect which helps here is the draft system, whereby each team takes it in turns to select from the cream of rookie talent that year. Crucially, the least successful team from last year gets the first pick of each round whilst the winner picks last, resulting in much more balance over time.

This isn’t perfect, because it rewards failure and punished success which doesn’t seem right, so how about this?

Loan draft system

- Each Premier League side designates 4 top young players to be made available to League One clubs, and 4 to League Two, with all costs covered.

- 6 out of those 8 players must be eligible for a home nation team.

- The club in each division with the lowest wages to revenue % the previous season gets the first pick of each round, while the biggest overspender picks last.

- Loan players cannot be recalled, but may be replaced by another player from that club if a long-term injury occurs

So, big clubs get to blood their youngsters, frugal lower league clubs are rewarded with the best young players at no cost, whilst it also dissuades others from spending far more than they can generate (a la Scunny) which is a long-term recipe for disaster.

Could that work?

Yes that sounds a good idea Poojah

Quoted from The Yard Dog

How about we adopt the Spanish league, were you are only allowed one manager throughout one season, less managers getting the sack and MAYBE more willing to use the youth players, rather than the foreign imports, in the knowledge that they have a season, rather than 5/6 games to get it right.

Because if that was the rule we would currently be a non league club

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

How about leave the league structure as it is as there's nothing wrong with it and the whole thing shouldn't be set up with the principal aim of serving the interests of half a dozen clubs sat right at the top, rolling in cash already?

But none of the governing bodies in English football ( The Premiersh*t, The FA and The EFL ) are proposing to alter the league structure. One person ( Harvey I think ) mentioned it as a possibility but a lot of fans seem to think that the inclusion of B teams in The Checkertrade Trophy will ultimately lead to them being included in the league structure which is total conjecture.