A solution to this B team Fiasco ?

How about this for a solution ?

If the prem want to play their young players against men let them play in the national league,

There could be 12 B teams and 12 other clubs,

The B teams are not allowed to be promoted,

This makes it a lot easier tor proper clubs playing in that league to get promoted back into the league,

So you still have one team promoted and another 6 in the play offs,

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Here's a fix, let the prem youth come through their parent clubs first team? Easy

So what happens to the 12 National League clubs (all of whom, 'proper clubs' or not, have earned their place at that level) you're kicking out to make room for the B teams?

I actually think this is a worse idea than the Checkatrade Trophy, which is some going!

Presumably, the B teams wouldn't get relegated either so it would also be easier for "proper" clubs to be relegated also. 7 proper teams would be in auto or playoff promotion spots and 4 would be relegated, leaving one spot for a mid-table "proper club".

And if the point is that the B teams can play against "men" with 12 of them in one league half of their games would be against other B teams anyway.

I like the creative thinking but its back to the drawing board with you Pete.

The problem with English football was never an issue surrounding B-Teams. There's been talk in both Germany and Spain to scrap B-Teams as they are a waste of money.

Germany and Spain both have far more coaches than us and have a history of possession based football. This is where the FA (are finally, but rightly) now focusing on.

The fact that so many England players have found a route through lower and even non league shows a strength of our system and not a weakness.

The reason I oppose B teams is that I believe i will stifle development and encourage uncompetiveness something that will harm the English National team as well as the game as a whole.

Quoted from grimsby pete

How about this for a solution ?

If the prem want to play their young players against men let them play in the national league,

There could be 12 B teams and 12 other clubs,

The B teams are not allowed to be promoted,

This makes it a lot easier tor proper clubs playing in that league to get promoted back into the league,

So you still have one team promoted and another 6 in the play offs,

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But you are accepting the principle of having B teams in the football pyramid.

Surely it's better to just confine them to a cup competition?

I can understand fans fears that the Checkatrade could lead to Premiersh*t B teams in the Football League structure but I cannot see the required number of FL clubs would vote for this. The start of every season there is  at least 10 teams in each league who genuinely believe they have a real chance of promotion. There is no way those clubs would vote through a proposal that would reduce their chances of promotion. It's one thing having a cup run that could potentially earn a nice amount of money in one season  ( didn't Lincoln get a total of £500,000 from their cup run) but a totally different situation that could generate vast amounts more for years to come through promotion. Likewise do you think a club would risk it's league position or status with the possibility of a Premiersh*t B team getting 6 points against it and any of those 6 points being responsible for it's demise?  I know some of you think it's the " thin end of the wedge " but I think the majority of FL clubs have too much to lose to allow that to happen.

If the premier league are so adamant about their B teams being allowed league status, which we all know is their ultimate plan, then set up a B league...each premier league club has the ability to self fund the notion and this would leave the EFL clubs out and allow us to get back to playing for the "football league" trophy....

Quoted from pizzzza

Presumably, the B teams wouldn't get relegated either so it would also be easier for "proper" clubs to be relegated also. 7 proper teams would be in auto or playoff promotion spots and 4 would be relegated, leaving one spot for a mid-table "proper club".

And if the point is that the B teams can play against "men" with 12 of them in one league half of their games would be against other B teams anyway.

I like the creative thinking but its back to the drawing board with you Pete.

No I should have said they can get relegated and promoted back to the national league but not promoted to the football league,

I gather its a bad idea but never mind it wont happen anyway.

I think if the FA are serious about getting young players playing than they need to start limiting the amount of young players the top teams can have in their academies. They are scoping up the talent like a Russian freezer boat in the hope that they find a rare Wayne Rooney and vast majority are than discarded with the wrong attitude to play in a real league. This way if the players are good  enough they will be playing regular football by the age of 18 and learning like tony ford the Moore brothers and lately Harry Clifton , not driving round in flash cars and thinking they are too good to play for the likes of town

How about the premsheit just do one or set up there own separate league for them only and leave us alone