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The club don't have the money for PP though Ginny.

I think Fenty thought if he could get the land given to him, and get planning permission on it he would be quids in.

A developer may be interested, but not interested enough to pay for a £20 million stadium up front! It would be many years before they got any of their investment back so I guess that is why it has probably hit the buffers.


Key word in bold LCL. No-one is telling us anything - as usual - because they don't want us to know.
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The club don't have the money for PP though Ginny.

I think Fenty thought if he could get the land given to him, and get planning permission on it he would be quids in.

A developer may be interested, but not interested enough to pay for a £20 million stadium up front! It would be many years before they got any of their investment back so I guess that is why it has probably hit the buffers.


That is why they need an enabling project. I think the Council are selling the land at a favourable rate to a developer, so the question now is whether a developer thinks they can make money from building the houses and throwing in a football stadium. Extreme seemed to think they could but whether that has now changed, i have no idea.

All this is conjecture on my part, but it's always been the case the the club can't afford to pay for a new stadium, and need it to be covered by an enabling project and grants.

Still think the club should let us know either way. The last concrete thing they said was that they were 80% sure (or something around that region) that it would be going ahead. We've heard nothing since except rumour and speculation.
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What will happen is we will not get a new ground at PP.

AND

We will not get a new ground at Freeman St.


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Instead of giving the P P land to the club at a reduced rate, they sell P P, what is premium land to a developer. Monies from the sale are used for regeneration of the land around Freeman Street, which will include the new stadium. Training ground remains where it is or is actually on PP as part of the housing development.
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I wonder if one of the reasons the club don’t want to admit that the new stadium is dead is that they will then have no excuse to spend fcuk all on  Blundell Park !!


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In the unlikely event of the council getting grants, plus their own funds to build a community stadium for the club to lease, I cannot see Mr. Fenty having any part of that.

He has dreamt of that as his legacy, and would be mightily miffed I would think. That would involve some interesting meetings where on the one hand the council want to build the stadium, but the major shareholder is reluctant to move the club to a stadium that hasn't got his name on it.

I suppose if Fenty hasn't got the cash or contacts to build one, then a council initiative, however unlikely it seems, is our only hope of ever moving.


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Quoted from barralad


I cannot get my head around the role of the Freemen of Grimsby in all this. I suspect they own a fair chunk of the land needed.
Whilst we are on the subject I'd be interested to know what percentage of Town's usual gate travel from the south and west of the area thereby negating the advantages of the A180 and adding considerably to the traffic chaos around Hainton Avenue/ Fred Ward Way and the Parkway/Victoria Street West on a Saturday match day.


How do people get from the west of the area to BP currently? That'd be no worse than it is surely, with less traffic heading down Cleethorpe/Grimsby Rd towards Cleethorpes. There'd be a longer journey from the Cleethorpes side granted. But on balance it'd be no worse than BP. Solving the traffic problem is surely lower down the list than solving the need for a new stadium. If solving traffic problems is an objective then we'd be imposing another barrier.

I see how PP would provide both the land and a location more central to the population, but there's not the slightest sign of the enabling development is there?


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I think the current proposal for Freeman St is a public square on the site around the old flats? That's got disaster written all over it, who the intercourse's gonna use that? Time to think big.


If this is true, then what it actually means is, there's going to be intercourse all. A square in the middle of what?! Staggering if true.


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All the talk about the cost of infrastructure is rubbish, to get to P.P. it has already been acknowledged a considerable amount of money will be needed to provide a NEW route to the proposed? stadium. P.P./fredrick ward way junction is a nightmare during busy times anyway.

Freemo as much closer access to the A180 via the flyover plus loads of space to build a massive car park close by to me it makes complete sense to have the stadium close to the motorway thus keeping traffic away from the town centre. I am sure a lot of those derelict shops and buildings dock side of freemo around Cottees could be flattened and used if needed.

That would generate more interest and footfall in the area that can only be good for the rest of the proprietors along that street. It would definitely bring it back to life.

Maybe Freshney place would block it though they always object to anything threatening their piece of excrement like they tried to stop old Ramsdens site being redeveloped.

The cynic in me thinks a lot of brown envelopes are been drawn up by councillors/developers behind closed doors to prevent this.
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Mrs Doyle, you are assuming people going to a game near Fresno would travel down the A180 to do so.
I doubt a significant percentage of fans come from Great Coates, Brigg, Barton direction and not all the couple of hundred away fans either.
I have never understood why people believe being close to the A180 solves traffic problems?
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