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MarinerRob
August 25, 2018, 8:51pm
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I always admired Amond, especially for what he did at Town, however his antics today in front of Mckeweon where he kept jumping up and down in Mckewan's face stopping him arranging his wall was not good. I don't know what the rules are for what he did. He might not have broke any rules, I don't know, but it was definitely morally wrong and cheating in my eyes. And from that free kick we lost the game, although on the whole we didn't deserve anything today. I would hope that no Town players ever stoop that low to try to win an advantage. My wife says I'm too principled but I would rather be like that than to resort to dirty tactics like Amond did today and the likes of Akinde Pen.
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At the end of the day he is a Newport player and Newport are going to do what they need to do to win,

If he was instructed to do that when they have a dangerous free kick his going to do it no matter who it’s against and he did and got away with it.

Won’t be the first time his done it and won’t be the last this season, Buisness is buisness at the end off the day.

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I agree that he should do everything in his power to get the points for Newport but to me, naively, think it was not the right way to play football. And I've never seen anyone before do that to a goalie.
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I have never seen him do that before today, and that is not wearing 'rose tinted' glasses either.
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Scored 32 goals to get us out the conference - that will be all that matters to me - he'll be only following his managers orders anyway.
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I think Podge nailed it.
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It's up to the referee to deal with gamesmanship. Sounds like he failed in this aspect today, as well as a number of others.
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Thing is there must have been 5-10 seconds from Podge walking away to the 18 yard line and the free kick being taken, was Macca still whatching him instead of the free kick?
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Gamesmanship from Podge, you can't blame him for our poor team performance, the ref was weak and I would say the gamemanship from the Newport players when ever one of their players went down was sickening, surrounding the ref trying to get our players sent off.


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1. I never saw Podge do that in a town shirt

2. I agree with rob, I’d never watch my team again if they did any of that excrement.


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Absolute balderdash did he do that when he played for us. I remember his account of leaving town didn't exactly match up with Hurst and Fenty's - i'd take anything he says with an enormous pinch of salt.

The only time I ever remember a town player doing anything like that was Charlie I'Anson at a free kick cos my dad went properly mad over how unsporting he thought it was!


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Absolute balderdash did he do that when he played for us. I remember his account of leaving town didn't exactly match up with Hurst and Fenty's - i'd take anything he says with an enormous pinch of salt.

The only time I ever remember a town player doing anything like that was Charlie I'Anson at a free kick cos my dad went properly mad over how unsporting he thought it was!


He’s a footballer, many if not most of them have short memories and find the truth hard to deal with, unless it suits them that is.

That said if AN Other who’d never played for us this would not be a big deal.


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Apart from what Podge did I did not like what Macca said before the game,

That he hated playing at Newport we never get a result there,

It does not matter what he thought he should never have said that before the match.


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So is what he's saying true or balderdash I never saw him do it but I only saw half a dozen games that season?
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Amond interview on the goal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06jgd6g
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McKeown got booked for gamesmanship on Tuesday.
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Never noticed him do it at Town. Whether he did or not at Town is actually neither here nor there, he's gone down a notch. I dare say I wouldn't be as bothered if he did it in a Town shirt, but I wouldn't feel good about it.


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Just proves to me that Amond is a journeyman and has little respect for his former clubs, amazing how he describes it as a little bit of fun.


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Happens all the time. I'm more bothered about how easily the free kick went in.
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Happens all the time. I'm more bothered about how easily the free kick went in.


You've got to wonder about the concentration level.


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Devitt did it against Mansfield once and our fans lapped it up. Come off it.


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Gavin Gunning did similar in every game he played for us......facing the goalkeeper and standing in his way and mirroring his movements when setting the wall up.........he even did it against us on opening day.

Amond absolutley "owns" McKeown and Macca knows it...he is proper in his head..end of. But as others have said, Podge was nowehere near by the time the free kick was struck and Macca didnt move despite the ball appearing to be pretty close to his side.

No issues with Podge doing what he did.



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Quoted from MarinerRob
I always admired Amond, especially for what he did at Town, however his antics today in front of Mckeweon where he kept jumping up and down in Mckewan's face stopping him arranging his wall was not good. I don't know what the rules are for what he did. He might not have broke any rules, I don't know, but it was definitely morally wrong and cheating in my eyes. And from that free kick we lost the game, although on the whole we didn't deserve anything today. I would hope that no Town players ever stoop that low to try to win an advantage. My wife says I'm too principled but I would rather be like that than to resort to dirty tactics like Amond did today and the likes of Akinde Pen.


I agree with you, very poor behaviour. But the ref is the judge, even if he was a poor one. Macca has to look after himself, he should have bullied Podge back. Honestly not why we lost the game, though, in my opinion. We simply didn't turn up compared to our performances at Lincoln and Macclesfield. Newport looked poor in general and went to ground way too easily, but that's what some teams do. But we were poorer. Newports main strength in my view was that they didn't allow us any space at all, were always faster to every loose ball, and there were a lot of those, our passing was awful. The Wes Thomas sending off was a joke and summed up the ref's poor officiating. But we lost the game, they didn't really win it. McKeown let Podge in his head, totally did what he said pre-match he didn't want to do.
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Amond got inside Maccas head he knew he could wind him up. Not the first time he as wound Macca up either.

Part and parcel of a strikers make up he did a job on Macca simple as that.
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Macca mate or no mate should said fuk off u little prickk with a gentle push away & not get bamboozled by his antics poor from Macca imo.
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It hasn't changed my view of Podge at all, he did what he thought was right for his current club.

That said I don't like playing the cynical way Newport did, and am another one who can't remember Amond ever doing that for Town, but am sure if he had I wouldn't of complained at the time.
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What irritates me is that it worked. That was weak. I think the free kick was
saveable and by the time it goes in, Macca hasn't really moved. Concentration broken or not, we've been done by a fairly common trick and we need to be much stronger than that. Macca will surely be annoyed with himself today for being 'done up' like that.


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Seen it on tv Macca should of ignored him and sorted his wall out.
I thought he should have saved the free kick it wasn’t that great.
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It's not a SPORT anymore as we all know. If you play fare you get nowhere
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I wouldn't call using a trick of the trade cheating, in the same way as when an opponent sits on the keeper at corners to block him off.
In all honestly I admire Macca, great shot stopper, very good on one-one situations, distribution is normally okay but he does have an very bad habit of not attacking high balls in and around in his area, the point in case highlighted on Tuesday against MKD.
So, no podge isn't a cheat, he simply out witted Macca...
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Macca definitely at fault for the two goals we have conceded this week.


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It's not a SPORT anymore as we all know. If you play fare you get nowhere


But you do get to ride on the bus
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Macca definitely at fault for the two goals we have conceded this week.


Surely not from our long serving hero who must be offered terms to keep home here whatever happens. Sorry is that cynical?
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I’m more concerned how leaden footed Macca is for the free kick to be honest.


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I’m more concerned how leaden footed Macca is for the free kick to be honest.



Having watched Macca many times in these free-kick situations I  have often thought how he has reacted wrongly. He seems to set the wall up and then at the last second takes a pace away from how the wall is set.


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Cheat? Letter of the law would say not.

twit? Yes.

Do I care? Yes, but only because it wasn't us doing it.
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Quoted from conocoloco
Cheat? Letter of the law would say not.

twit? Yes.

Do I care? Yes, but only because it wasn't us doing it.


Lot of jealousy really - Podge is paid by Newport to score goals & win points for Newport, Macca is paid to save goals & win points for us.
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It's a pity that our so-called professional footballers fall for Sunday League pub tricks week in week out.  They need to be a bit more streetwise.
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Seen it on tv Macca should of ignored him and sorted his wall out.
I thought he should have saved the free kick it wasn’t that great.


Totally agree


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Dear oh dear
Part of football.
Podge is a Newport player so we should have found a way to nullify his antics.
We didn't so thats down to our players not Podge.

Would love him back in Black and White.


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There is a streak of naivety running through recent Town teams. MJ stresses the need for signings to be 'a good person' Perhaps we could balance it out with a few like Rees, Cunnington, Livvo and the guy who sorted Shearer?
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Its down to the referee to take action early, if he takes control, it doesn't continue, simple as.
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There is a streak of naivety running through recent Town teams. MJ stresses the need for signings to be 'a good person' Perhaps we could balance it out with a few like Rees, Cunnington, Livvo and the guy who sorted Shearer?


From the 3 games I’ve seen we look to have a bit more bite than in previous seasons. You can have that without behaving like total w@nkers!


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Does, what Amond did, come under the category of " ungentlemanly conduct" which the referee can punish ?


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Jesus Christ...who cares?! 5 pages of this and at the only thing worth mentioning is we lost and they won. Accept it.
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Jesus Christ...who cares?! 5 pages of this and at the only thing worth mentioning is we lost and they won. Accept it.



….and there's silly me thinking that this site was for discussing all football matters relating to GTFC!


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All this does is to underline how foolish it was not to offer Podge a longer contract in 2016 when we had the chance. For some reason, which I never understood, Hurst never seemed to have rated him that much - remember when we had Tomlinson on loan and so Podge got left on the bench?

So nobody has the right to complain about a player who gave so much and not to use words like "cheat" especially when we wouldn't be back in the League if he's not converted that penalty at Braintree.

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The guy who sorted Shearer? [/quote]

Justin Wittle!....and shearer behaved like a big girls blouse after wittle put an elbow into his lip, didn't like having done to him what he'd done to opponents all hus career...still makes me p!ss every time I see him on MOTD and notice the scar on his upper lip...

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From the 3 games I’ve seen we look to have a bit more bite than in previous seasons. You can have that without behaving like total w@nkers!


Totally agree, we have a few this year who look like they can look after themselves, Welsh, Whitmore, Famewo to name a few.

Whatever the rights or wrongs of the incident, it was simply Macca being done by his "mate"

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Totally agree, we have a few this year who look like they can look after themselves, Welsh, Whitmore, Famewo to name a few.

Whatever the rights or wrongs of the incident, it was simply Macca being done by his "mate"



Totally agree, Macca needs to be more wise in situations like these, run up to the ref and say what's going on here ref
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Is there the same mock outrage when McKeown takes an age with his goal kicks when we're defending a lead?

It's not cheating, it's mind games. There's a bloody huge difference in the two. Amond got in McKeown's head and he knew he could do it. McKeown needs to work on that aspect of his game and make sure it doesn't happen again.

This sudden witch hunt against Amond is embarrassing.
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Podge or any player can stand where they like as long as they do not put hands on the opponent,

Macca should have saved that free kick then nobody would be talking about Podge,

I would have Podge back as he is the 20 goal striker we need.


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Totally agree, Macca needs to be more wise in situations like these, run up to the ref and say what's going on here ref


Agreed Macca should have been screaming at the ref to urine him off no room for the ole pals act Podge knew what he was doing.  

That Ref is a rookie league ref I'm pretty sure this was used by the management at Newport to their advantage their players seemed instructed to hassle him and it worked.

Is it legal? of course, You use every trick you can to win a match It's part and parcel of the modern game same as sledging is in cricket.
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