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KingstonMariner
August 12, 2018, 8:43pm
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I think the Vicar has it right. When do the stattos stop counting what counts as a goal from a corner. The important stat in this respect is how teams leaving a man up do in the whole match.


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Quoted from Tommy
This isn't as big a deal as some would think. Watch a PL game on Tele, most teams defend with everyone back.


Yes but have you seen the speed they then break at - straight at the oppositions throat within seconds. League 2 players cannot be expected to play like that hence it would seem more practical to leave one or more players up for an opposition corner to get on the end of the usual long clearance.

Don't get me wrong I would be delighted if we could break from an opposition corner at speed and be a goal threat from that, but it is a lot to ask.
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Didn’t work against FGR did it ?! Doidge had a free header with everyone back


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Watch the World Cup.so many teams did the same thing and had everyone back. There is a contrarian tactic which I've seen a few teams employ, especially when they don't have a great deal of height and that is to turn the situation on its head and leave 3 players up front which gives the attacking team a real problem and also leaves more space in the area for the keeper to dominate
I know it's level 8 but Ben Williams at Aylesbury United does it all the time and often the opposition are scratching their heads as to how to counter it.they have their corner kick routines and suddenly their plans are null and void
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Quoted from forza ivano
Watch the World Cup.so many teams did the same thing and had everyone back. There is a contrarian tactic which I've seen a few teams employ, especially when they don't have a great deal of height and that is to turn the situation on its head and leave 3 players up front which gives the attacking team a real problem and also leaves more space in the area for the keeper to dominate
I know it's level 8 but Ben Williams at Aylesbury United does it all the time and often the opposition are scratching their heads as to how to counter it.they have their corner kick routines and suddenly their plans are null and void


How does that work out for the Geese Ducks?


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Honestly I don't mind so much because I do the same thing on Football Manager and it works for me.
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Really not a fan of it, be it for Town, in the Premier League, international level, any level for that matter.

I agree with the comments that just by leaving one up you at the very worst drag another attacking player back towards their own goal.  It just invites pressure for me, you clear the ball and it comes back.  Surely the objective is to clear the corner and reset your positions as soon as possible?  By having everyone back the only chance of this happening straight away is if the 'keeper collects it or a foul is committed by the attacking side.  

It is interesting that Slade got absolute pelters for this yet Jolley has so far emerged pretty much unscathed by it.  Obviously Jolley has impressed on a much more overall basis than Slade.  
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There will be a perfectly sound reason for it, despite what we may think. Why else would most managers adopt this tactic? Their very livelihoods depend on results, so i don't imagine they are doing it just to exasperate football fans.
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Quoted from diehardmariner

I agree with the comments that just by leaving one up you at the very worst drag another attacking player back towards their own goal.  


The point is you pack the box so noone has space for a free run or header. Easiest way to defend. Your point becomes a negative, leaving 1 man up removes at least 2 from the box making more space.

Not saying I'm a fan, but chances of conceding with more space are probably higher than chance of scoring on a break.
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I can't remember who but one of the teams in The World Cup left two men on the half-way line when defending corners. It bamboozled the opposition who had to leave three men, at least, back to cover them.
It seems most teams now bring everybody back but, like not having a man on each post to defend corners, it doesn't seem right. But I'm not a football coach, just a fan.
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