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monkeyboy
August 9, 2018, 11:34am
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The new ground, I refuse to call it a stadium, we're a 4th division club and stadiums,( or is it stadia?) are where they have dog racing, anyway it's dead in the water, has been for months that's why Fenty has been keeping his gob shut for so long. The NIMBYs have been quiet as have the council and that fly-by-night sounding lot who were supposed to be involved

It ain't gonna happen


I completely agree, think it was a false promise at the start really to get people spending at the club again based on hollow truths and false promises.
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August 9, 2018, 11:50am

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Thats strange, just about every other business can. Why cant football clubs? Give the punters the right product and they will come

I could reasonably argue that things are so bad because of st holders. They have your cash regardless and don't have to put any effort in to get your repeat custom.  So you are the cause of a lot of the problems, not a cure as  would prefer to see yourselves


No they don’t, businesses spend money on investment players, facilities, infrastructure in terms of a football club by using capital expenditure and not by taking money straight out of the day to day trading account.

Season ticket sales give a boost to cash flow and working capital that a few good gates could never match.  


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
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August 9, 2018, 12:23pm
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So other businesses dont have large recurring expenditure to keep competitive. I have a 1,5 million upgrade due  which I managed to budget for even with most of my customers invoiced 90 days on account. I will need more larger investment next year. Far more than is being spent on new players and site mntnce. Plus I have to suffer major depreciation, there is never a Bogle type windfall A football club is absolutely no different apart from a few mugs  that think they are "doing ther bit" by paying upfront
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getyourfactsright disappears...realist pops up.

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So other businesses dont have large recurring expenditure to keep competitive. I have a 1,5 million upgrade due  which I managed to budget for even with most of my customers invoiced 90 days on account. I will need more larger investment next year. Far more than is being spent on new players and site mntnce. Plus I have to suffer major depreciation, there is never a Bogle type windfall A football club is absolutely no different apart from a few mugs  that think they are "doing ther bit" by paying upfront


Any business will have a core of "guaranteed" contracts, without these they rely on floating accounts which are greatly affected by market forces...so on GTFCs case, so once they look at the budget they have a pot of cash they can use, that being ST sales and sponsors who have paid upfront, so paying on the day doesn't generate an income stream that can be relied on because as I have said,  the factors involved in not getting people through the gates are infinite where as sponsorship and ST sales are upfront payments and puts a definite amount of cash in the bank...
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August 9, 2018, 1:00pm
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Exactly my point the income stream can't be relied on  unless there is a cracking team and facilities.  If nobody paid upfront they would have to look after the fans a lot better. A better team and facilities would result in higher gates so everyone benefits. So the real cause of all the problems at gtfc are the seaon ticket holders
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Yeah but buying a season ticket for the Upper saves you £143 on the season, guarantees you a seat and first dibs at in demand tickets, so i suspect that is why most people buy one. Where's the harm in that?
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August 9, 2018, 1:31pm
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None at all. Your money and you spend it as you see fit. I was just discussing a theory.
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Quoted from realist
None at all. Your money and you spend it as you see fit. I was just discussing a theory.


whilst saying 3k people are mugs for parting with it
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But it does make me wonder that if they had to work a lot harder for our money would we get less bad days like last Saturday?  Does the club really deserve such blind support?
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