Fantastic Quote.............

Quoted from Ipswin

That should limit things quite a lot, in fact you may not have anyone to talk to at all

I suspect he would still be talking to you Swin.  Anybody that can clearly be trolling and still  getting the bites that you do, can't be stupid now can they ?  

The big thing these days is that every club is ultra professional and well run, get players in that makes them competitive and it always seems to catch us by surprise that FGR and many others are better than us.

We could have any manager in the world as boss, but purely judging on Saturday FGR have better players so to a certain extent the managers hands are tied.

I am sure he will get the players better drilled than we saw on Saturday, but I wonder what he agreed about player targets with Fenty? Did he have the confidence in himself that although he could not bid for the best players, he would coach what he had to be competitive?

It will continue to be so until we find some money from somewhere to get the better players. We couldn't even afford the best players in non league, so this business about our budget being "competitive" is a load of tosh, unless your definition of competitive is very wide.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

The big thing these days is that every club is ultra professional and well run, get players in that makes them competitive and it always seems to catch us by surprise that FGR and many others are better than us.

We could have any manager in the world as boss, but purely judging on Saturday FGR have better players so to a certain extent the managers hands are tied.

I am sure he will get the players better drilled than we saw on Saturday, but I wonder what he agreed about player targets with Fenty? Did he have the confidence in himself that although he could not bid for the best players, he would coach what he had to be competitive?

It will continue to be so until we find some money from somewhere to get the better players. We couldn't even afford the best players in non league, so this business about our budget being "competitive" is a load of tosh, unless your definition of competitive is very wide.

Always wonder what the basis for the budget is. Is it attendance based or is it based on the previous season? We were 8th highest average attendance last season but I would suspect we haven't got the 8th highest budget - which begs the question 'How are we going to be in the Championship in 5 years time?'

In April, it will be the 10th anniversary of our infamous celebration at Bournemouth - not much has changed has it?

Does anyone know how big Stanley's budget was last year? Without burgers mind.

Quoted from Croxton

Does anyone know how big Stanley's budget was last year? Without burgers mind.

You occasionally get a one off season like Accrington but that is the footballing fortune Fenty bangs on about - ie a miracle worker who manages to get a group of players to gel, against all the odds. It is a policy of sorts I suppose, but like everything with our club we have absolutely no idea what is needed to get from point A to point B - illustrated perfectly by the directors remark about the Championship within 5 years.

How? Who is going to make it happen? What strategy are they going to use? Do we want the stadium (!) first and build from that, or do we want success on the field first? What attempts are being made to improve BP for the next 5, or probably 50 years? What is the point of having a board who have zero ambition and zero ability to get anywhere at all in 16-17 years?? Answers on a postcard to anyone who might know.

Quoted from TheCodfather1966

Anybody with half a brain cell ( which excludes most on here ) could see that this quote was purely a way of the manager telling the fans that we are crap, we have no budget, so expect nothing, yet the red cross brigade are out in full force again.  I will not be posting again, with the exception of a few, this forum is full of muppets that are not REAL fans of the football club, merely cyber tosspots that spout rubbish.  All very boring, will leave the muppets to their daily drivel, far better things to do.  When I talk to GTFC fans , I will merely talk to those that actually attend games and have an IQ above 4.

UTM

You mean anyone with an IQ greater than yours !

I see what Jolley meant about expectations. I think some people were getting carried away, which mean their disappointment was that more pronounced and it led to anger. I didn't go on Saturday so i don't know how bad it was, but going by the comments of the more level headed posters, it was shite. There's no getting way from that, and I guess Jolley wouldn't deny that. But he is rightly calling for a bit of balance.

Given we had the 8th highest attendance last season, and assuming a reasonable correlation between attendance and income, our budget ought to be around that level. Maybe a bit lower because of FGR 'outspending their attendance'. So upper-mid table ought to be about par. I have a sneaking suspicion that Jolley will do better with a given level of resources, but it'll be through developing a longer-term, sustainable strategy, not a quick fix. He'll do well if given time.

I'd love the leadership at the club to be more upbeat and positive, but quite frankly, I wouldn't place any weight on positive sounds coming out of the board anyway. Not with the people concerned calling the shots. Anyone who drew comfort from that director's comment about being in the Championship in 5  years time, clearly hasn't been paying attention to what's been going on for the last decade and a half. There is no evidence of any plans to deliver that.

What we have had are pie in the sky dreams about having a new stadium (the sums have never added up*) and instead it's been a big distraction of management effort to the detriment of the short term needs and wishes of people (i.e. BP has been left to rack and ruin). The proof of the pudding has been the complete and utter absence of any news on agreeing anything with any developer.

Let's just be f***ing realistic. Once we recognise and accept the realities, we can build our dreams based on what is achievable.

* £22m less £1m in receipts for BP (optimistic) = £22m to find. We've had airy claims that this will be covered by 'enabling development' and 'new income streams' but no indication of how much let alone exactly how.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I see what Jolley meant about expectations. I think some people were getting carried away, which mean their disappointment was that more pronounced and it led to anger. I didn't go on Saturday so i don't know how bad it was, but going by the comments of the more level headed posters, it was shite. There's no getting way from that, and I guess Jolley wouldn't deny that. But he is rightly calling for a bit of balance.

Given we had the 8th highest attendance last season, and assuming a reasonable correlation between attendance and income, our budget ought to be around that level. Maybe a bit lower because of FGR 'outspending their attendance'. So upper-mid table ought to be about par. I have a sneaking suspicion that Jolley will do better with a given level of resources, but it'll be through developing a longer-term, sustainable strategy, not a quick fix. He'll do well if given time.

I'd love the leadership at the club to be more upbeat and positive, but quite frankly, I wouldn't place any weight on positive sounds coming out of the board anyway. Not with the people concerned calling the shots. Anyone who drew comfort from that director's comment about being in the Championship in 5  years time, clearly hasn't been paying attention to what's been going on for the last decade and a half. There is no evidence of any plans to deliver that.

What we have had are pie in the sky dreams about having a new stadium (the sums have never added up*) and instead it's been a big distraction of management effort to the detriment of the short term needs and wishes of people (i.e. BP has been left to rack and ruin). The proof of the pudding has been the complete and utter absence of any news on agreeing anything with any developer.

Let's just be f***ing realistic. Once we recognise and accept the realities, we can build our dreams based on what is achievable.

* £22m less £1m in receipts for BP (optimistic) = £22m to find. We've had airy claims that this will be covered by 'enabling development' and 'new income streams' but no indication of how much let alone exactly how.

I think you have mentioned a salient point there. This new stadium has been the bane of the Fenty tenure. Obviously he thought he could do basically nothing, till the dream of the new stadium took us to the promised land.

Like you say it is about time we got on with the here and now; we would have heard positive news about the stadium by now if it was ever going to be built. What are the boards plans for on and off the field if the stadium plan is dead in the water?

In MJ I trust and will remain the same as I fully believe that he’ll turn the club around on and off the field. He’ll not be an overnight fix but will grow in time for a more stable club.

The off field will be sorted in a matter of time once the on field is stable.

It really does hurt me when I read such negativity only after game one 😢

Would be nice and we generally would be stronger if we all pulled in the same direction and support our manager.

Constructive comments are fine but when it goes over the line then it’s not on.

Is our end goal to divide another wedge and force him away, then what? Or to give it what we’ve got a chance to develop into something potentially something special.

Please everyone this is going to take time so let’s get together and give the lads our full backing.

Quoted from H19P1

In MJ I trust and will remain the same as I fully believe that he’ll turn the club around on and off the field. He’ll not be an overnight fix but will grow in time for a more stable club.

The off field will be sorted in a matter of time once the on field is stable.

It really does hurt me when I read such negativity only after game one 😢

Would be nice and we generally would be stronger if we all pulled in the same direction and support our manager.

Constructive comments are fine but when it goes over the line then it’s not on.

Is our end goal to divide another wedge and force him away, then what? Or to give it what we’ve got a chance to develop into something potentially something special.

Please everyone this is going to take time so let’s get together and give the lads our full backing.

You do realise that football clubs forums up and down the land are discussing their clubs fortunes in the weekend just gone? We lost heavily at home, with ludicrous own goals and comedy defending so the forum will mirror that disappointment.

Forums do not have any effect on what happens next, they are just supporters meeting up to discuss things. Just as in the pub there are loud ones, thoughtful ones, daft ones, hyperbolic ones and ones that will be led by the majority view.

You and I are just talking about the Mariners nothing more. We win, everybody, or nearly everybody is happy. We lose, not many are happy. Lose badly and the world caves in. That is the way it is. Come Saturday we start with a clean sheet, and the opening posts on here will all be supportive and hoping the lads can do their stuff. A win on Saturday will mean the hyperbolic ones will be suggesting a top 3 finish!