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If FGR are 'tinpot', what does that make us considering their wage bill is almost certainly multiples of ours?
Lack of fans is not the same thing as lack of resources so assuming we should just beat a team spending so much more than us doesn't make sense.
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If FGR are 'tinpot', what does that make us considering their wage bill is almost certainly multiples of ours?
Lack of fans is not the same thing as lack of resources so assuming we should just beat a team spending so much more than us doesn't make sense.
Hmm, maybe but needlessly playing square pegs in round holes isn't going to help. Does anyone else see Harry Clifton as a wingback for example? All I'm saying, is okay it is early but I've absolutely had enough of losing, Jolley's choices on Saturday were bizarre IMO, alarm bells are ringing.
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Hi -new to this forum but not new to watching the Mariners as been following them since 1971 Just a quick first post to say I cant believe how many doom and gloom merchants there are on here …...one match into the season and yes it was dire but god almighty give the team a chance - pretty much a new line up so its going to take time to gel
Please don't make your debut on here with all that 'time to gel' crap
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[quote=75] Paul Dixon for example, he has proved himself time and time again to be out of his depth for whatever reason at league two level. Yes, he has two Scotland caps, he has played at a higher level than league two. He has been woeful since he signed, he was as poor as anyone on Saturday. Senior pros such as Collins and John Welsh were continually shouting at him to get into the right position on Saturday, you'd expect that of a young lad making his way, not a 32 year old former international footballer. His body language is negative, he doesn't seem to look up. He gets caught the wrong side of the man he is marking time and time again, he is always going to get turned and he is physically weak. Yes but apart from that he had a good game.
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Saturday was shambolic, yes it is one game but we were so far behind a tinpot village outfit like Forest Green, I don't think it's wrong to be concerned already. I do have faith in Michael Jolley, but his team selection was baffling. The two 'wing backs', the central midfield choices, the punts to the small forwards against giant centre backs. I'm sorry but he isn't immune to criticism, he can turn up and as many BBQ's as he wants, he will be judged on results.
Paul Dixon for example, he has proved himself time and time again to be out of his depth for whatever reason at league two level. Yes, he has two Scotland caps, he has played at a higher level than league two. He has been woeful since he signed, he was as poor as anyone on Saturday. Senior pros such as Collins and John Welsh were continually shouting at him to get into the right position on Saturday, you'd expect that of a young lad making his way, not a 32 year old former international footballer. His body language is negative, he doesn't seem to look up. He gets caught the wrong side of the man he is marking time and time again, he is always going to get turned and he is physically weak.
Sorry, I could claim the opposite and bury my head in the sand, I appreciate it is only my opinion and I am open to discussion if people think I'm wrong. But if we are to move forward, he should not be starting games, he's under contract, I get that and I don't seen anyone coming in for him.
You may be right BUT firstly, he was selected ahead of Fox and secondly, Clifton was selected ahead of RH-J. As you say, all about opinions, but I think both selections were wrong. Harry Clifton ended last season as local hero, 'one of our own' etc but as a right-sided/central midfielder not a square peg in a round hole. We talk about needing a striker but haven't got a single attacking wide player on the books - NOT ONE - unless you count Max Wright who spent last season playing at 4 levels lower.
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You may be right BUT firstly, he was selected ahead of Fox and secondly, Clifton was selected ahead of RH-J. As you say, all about opinions, but I think both selections were wrong. Harry Clifton ended last season as local hero, 'one of our own' etc but as a right-sided/central midfielder not a square peg in a round hole. We talk about needing a striker but haven't got a single attacking wide player on the books - NOT ONE - unless you count Max Wright who spent last season playing at 4 levels lower.
Which is what really concerns me. The formation we're setting up for is 352, and we're not particularly well set up for that with regards to players available but that's another story, but I'm amazed that MJ is so short-sighted that he hasn't got any wide players that would allow us to change formation either through choice or through necessity. It's just extremely poor planning in my opinion. That coupled with the fact that he's playing wholly unsuited players in the wing back positions (Clifton and Dixon) makes me think that he's decided on the formation without really thinking about how to implement it or he's going to be really stubborn and stick with it regardless of circumstance. I still maintain that without someone coming in on the left side that we don't have two players capable of playing wing back, and even then you only need an injury or suspension to one of them and you're back to square pegs in round holes. We can't even change the formation effectively because we've got any orthodox attacking wide players. For a man who's clearly intelligent, the way he has built the squad is baffling to say the least.
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Which is what really concerns me. The formation we're setting up for is 352, and we're not particularly well set up for that with regards to players available but that's another story, but I'm amazed that MJ is so short-sighted that he hasn't got any wide players that would allow us to change formation either through choice or through necessity. It's just extremely poor planning in my opinion.
That coupled with the fact that he's playing wholly unsuited players in the wing back positions (Clifton and Dixon) makes me think that he's decided on the formation without really thinking about how to implement it or he's going to be really stubborn and stick with it regardless of circumstance. I still maintain that without someone coming in on the left side that we don't have two players capable of playing wing back, and even then you only need an injury or suspension to one of them and you're back to square pegs in round holes. We can't even change the formation effectively because we've got any orthodox attacking wide players. For a man who's clearly intelligent, the way he has built the squad is baffling to say the least.
And I suspect the decision to get rid of Zak Mills and keep RHJ was a financial one because, ability wise, it must have been a very marginal call.
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You'd have to imagine that RHJ would be the nominal right wing-back as he's got the No. 2 shirt and has played further forward in his career. This makes it all the more strange that he started on the bench behind Clifton. Did RHJ play on the left in pre-season? That might be an understandable selection though I'm not convinced he's a good enough defender to play on his wrong side.
Dixon wasn't terrible on Saturday (though definitely not good) but he's just too slow to consider playing as a regular wing-back and Fox, though a capable full-back who isn't bad going forward doesn't strike me as somebody you would see in that position either.
I can't help but wonder if the player (or players) Jolley is looking at in Sweden can play as wing-backs and he's just looking for something which works OK until we can sign them. Would be a worrying risk if so!
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