Gainsborough Match Thread

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MARINERS: McKeown, Davis, Whitmore, Collins, Clifton, Fox, M Rose, Welsh, Woolford, Hooper, Vernam

ON THE BENCH: Famewo, Hall-Johnson, Dixon, Hessenthaler, Wright, Robles, A Rose, Russell


On the OS it states there will be full coverage of the game on gtfc.co.uk ......does this mean Match commentary or just Live updates ?

its live text PP by the looks of it, just checked it out.

12:30

Gainsborough Trinity starting XI - Stewart, Hough, Gordon, Austin, Maguire, Evans, Byrne, King, Worsfold, Reeves, Orlando-Young.
Subs - Ture, Russell, Simmons, Hannah, Tuohy, Wilson, Kay, Clarke.

12:23

Town starting XI - McKeown; Clifton, Davis, Collins, Whitmore, Fox; Welsh (c), M. Rose, Woolford; Hooper, Vernam.
Subs - Robles, Hessenthaler, Famewo, Wright, A. Rose, Russell, Hall-Johnson, Dixon.

Who's Russell??

Keeper/coach Sam Russell or am I missing a joke here

Noticed that both teams are fielding 8 subs!  Is that a change of the laws or just some agreement between the two teams?

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Keeper/coach Sam Russell or am I missing a joke here

oh yeah lol

5' CLOSE! A great break down the right by Vernam, who puts a low cross into the box for Woolford, but Gainsborough goalkeeper Stewart denies the midfielder's close-ranged effort

That's what I like to see, midfielders getting into the box.

Rose looking very lively

Sounds like the wind is having an effect on the game.

Quoted from SpudUDontLike

Rose looking very lively

That's good to hear.  Someone in the week said he looked like he had lost a few pounds!

Quoted from promotion plaice

Sounds like the wind is having an effect on the game.

Sounds like!  Are you getting a commentary from somewhere?

Hooper deserves that. He's looked up for it so far.

GOAL TOWN (1-0)
Woolford strikes the crossbar from the FK, and there is Hooper on hand to tap home into the empty net!

(the goal I mean)

1-0 Town

Free kick didn’t see who took it, off the cross bar, JJ taps in the rebound

2-0 Clifton

Only just found it. Commentary here, gone off for half-time but should be back >> http://mixlr.com/gainstrinityfc/

Ross Hannah up front for Gainsborough?

Hannah on the bench apparently but I didn’t see him warming up before the game and he doesn’t look to be out there now at HT.

Ross Hannah was out there pre-match

Got his head shaved so maybe you’d not recognise him compared to his Town days

Paul Groves is at the game today

Our defence and keeper untroubled really, a couple of fairly routine saves to make but we've looked solid and very much on top. Woolford had a good half as did Rose, although the latter lost his rag towards half time after being caught by one of their players after a great piece of play on his (Rose's) part and was lucky it's only a friendly. Hooper and Vernam energetic up front. Good stuff.

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Ross Hannah was out there pre-match

Got his head shaved so maybe you’d not recognise him compared to his Town days

You’re right - I stand corrected he’s the slap head haha

Quoted from promotion plaice

Sounds like the wind is having an effect on the game.

Don’t think the wind has been that bad.....although in the stand maybe it’s not so noticeable

It would have been a lot worse playing in yesterday’s 30+ temperatures...they’d have been exhausted after a few minutes

3-0 Hessenthaler

Surprised the ref has allowed their keeper to play in a red shirt when we are playing in red

4-0 Robles

Enjoyable afternoon!! But chilly compared to what we have had

We played some good stuff today but we were rarely troubled. We were very patient and kept our shape very well. Rose and Vernam were the pick of the bunch. Vernam ran his socks off and was unlucky not to be on the score sheet. Impressed with Clifton today and Woolford had a good game. Trinity weren’t much of a challenge quite surprisingly seeing as they held a strong Peterborough side for 85 mins in mid week. Ross Hannah played about 35 mins for Trinity and was all but anonymous. Still not sure where our goals are gonna come from which is a funny thing to say after a 4-0 win. Robles got 10 mins and poked the ball home from close range after a mix up in the box, he also had an effort that went wide but I’ve not sussed him out yet.

I was unfortunate not to go today due to work but sounded good. I know we dont have a 20+goal Scorer. But we do seem to have a few that will pop up with 4 or 5 over the season. If we go back to promotion season when podge dried up so to speak we had very little in reserve. I would rather see 7 or 8 players that will score 4 or 5 over the season which would give a 28 to 40 goals. If we had one player that scored 20 and then got injured or went off form we would have nothing. Even so sooner or later other teams get wise to an out and out goal scorer and make it difficult for them to get on the score sheet.

People keep going on about the 20+ goalscorer. Now I don't mean to pile pressure on Hoops but I sure hope he's the man to do it. He's scored a few in preseason which can only add to his end of season flurry of goals. If he keeps up this form, who knows.

I'm hopeful and content with the team so far.

Quoted from MarinerBen

People keep going on about the 20+ goalscorer. Now I don't mean to pile pressure on Hoops but I sure hope he's the man to do it. He's scored a few in preseason which can only add to his end of season flurry of goals. If he keeps up this form, who knows.

I'm hopeful and content with the team so far.

Got to agree about Hooper. Since Mr Jolley arrived it's clear that he has been working on him and he looks a different player, full of confidence. He looks like he is enjoying himself under MJ and is now finding the net more often as a result.

A good workout for most of the squad and the pattern of play works well enough. We stall a little on the left sometimes but hopefully Fox will grow more into his role.  Ideally, Wright, Robles and Ahkeem would have had more game time but MJ made sure the game was won first.

MJ has certainly put Hooper and Rose through a mangle and squeezed out talent we didn’t know either had at one point. I didn’t rate neither of them until Slade went. Hooper has looked like a new player and seems to want the ball more. I’m not gonna say whether he can or can’t hit the goals in as he’s never been prolific. 29 goals in 6 years but if he starts this season how the last one ended then who knows?

Quoted from Croxton

A good workout for most of the squad and the pattern of play works well enough. We stall a little on the left sometimes but hopefully Fox will grow more into his role.  Ideally, Wright, Robles and Ahkeem would have had more game time but MJ made sure the game was won first.

I definitely got the feeling that this is likely going to be the team to start next week. I think MJ approached the game to give that first 11 a good run out and likely you say the changes didn’t come until the game was wrapped up. There was none of the wholesale changes at the break and another glut in the second half to get everyone minutes. Sam Russell didn’t see the field at all and A. Rose only got a couple of minutes and Wright only seconds.

Quite pleased with the way the afternoon panned out

We played some neat and tidy football and scored the goals needed to win a game

We were full of running - Vernam in particular - and kept on trying to play the ball through, rather than just hitting and hoping

I know next week it’ll be a completely different scenario but if we keep this kind of game up, I’ve a feeling it’ll bring us some good times in the months ahead

UTM

I think that this coming season we will play good attractive football that we be a joy to watch.

Just need that magic ingredient, luck, to challenge for promotion.

UTM

All seems very promising a complete contrast to this time last year.

Quite enjoyed my first look at the 'new team/formation. Echo what most people have said on here but would would give an additional shout out to Woolford who, albeit a friendly, was very good today.

Also I realised today that it's the first time I have watched Town for a long time without a knot in my stomach. Long may that continue.

I think it was the play leading up to the 4th goal, extremely patient and we'll worked. Noticed that when we crossed there was a player long to pick up any crosses that went astray and retain possession.

A completely different feel this pre season and im enjoying it , i like the way we look like we going to play this season too with passing football and width to stretch teams, welsh is quality you can see he sees the pass on all the time and i think this guy will be the main man for us this season..

Imo we need a wing back as fox doesnt look comfortable as say hall johnson and even harry clifton as today clifton looked very comfortable there and always looked a threat going forward were as fox seemed happy to stay back and jolley was constantly telling him to push up the pitch..

This 352 formation you need wing backs who can get up and down and im not sure fox can do that but i suppose its new to him but would really like to see a wing back and a striker to still come in but i like to see the changes and look forward to saturday ...

Quoted from jonnyboy82

A completely different feel this pre season and im enjoying it , i like the way we look like we going to play this season too with passing football and width to stretch teams, welsh is quality you can see he sees the pass on all the time and i think this guy will be the main man for us this season..

Imo we need a wing back as fox doesnt look comfortable as say hall johnson and even harry clifton as today clifton looked very comfortable there and always looked a threat going forward were as fox seemed happy to stay back and jolley was constantly telling him to push up the pitch..

This 352 formation you need wing backs who can get up and down and im not sure fox can do that but i suppose its new to him but would really like to see a wing back and a striker to still come in but i like to see the changes and look forward to saturday ...

From the TV interview, MJ is still working with Burnley on a deal for Ali Koiki for left wing back.

Thats good to hear..

I thought the pitch ruined it a bit. We were much the better side and showed some nice play even in the conditions. First time I’ve seen us this preseason and I am not sure we have the quality in the squad to achieve the success people are expecting. We have lots of young players and players who lack experience.
I’m excited to see how they get on but I’d like to see a few more quality additions especially in attacking positions. I think we have to be patient if it doesn’t start off well.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

From the TV interview, MJ is still working with Burnley on a deal for Ali Koiki for left wing back.

Every BBC interview brings up the subject of Ali Koiki, each presenting the same response from MJ and it is getting rather tedious now.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Every BBC interview brings up the subject of Ali Koiki, each presenting the same response from MJ and it is getting rather tedious now.

Agreed, don’t you think it seems a bit weird Burnley were willing to allow him to play a trial game but 3 weeks later we’ve not able to sign him on loan. Makes you wonder what Burnley are thinking about him ?

Quoted from headingly_mariner

I thought the pitch ruined it a bit[/b]. We were much the better side and showed some nice play even in the conditions. First time I’ve seen us this preseason and I am not sure we have the quality in the squad to achieve the success people are expecting. We have lots of young players and players who lack experience.
I’m excited to see how they get on but I’d like to see a few more quality additions especially in attacking positions. I think we have to be patient if it doesn’t start off well.

Not sure why you thought the pitch ruined it a bit, we were only saying that it looked in great condition and the groundsmen had done a good job.

Looks like we are quietly going about our business of playing good football to feet and sharing the goals around, I`ve seen most of the preseason games and its a huge improvement on last seasons Sladeball.

I like the look of the new signings and the way that they are gelling into a team, we now have more youthful energy and look to be very fit, we are going to do well this season I`m sure

Having seen the very dry pitches at Clee and Barton it was a relief to see what a fine job the groundstaff had done. The thick grass did slow the ball a bit though.

Highlights on iFollow (Freeview) >> https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2018/july/freeview--gainsborough-highlights/

Quoted from Gainsbro_Mariner

Agreed, don’t you think it seems a bit weird Burnley were willing to allow him to play a trial game but 3 weeks later we’ve not able to sign him on loan. Makes you wonder what Burnley are thinking about him ?

I don't find that bit weird. They probably want to get him through their pre-season schedule to have a look and identify where they see him developing. It might be that there are a few potential moves for him and they are weighing up the best one. He is the only trialist MJ hasn't ruled out so I think he will sign this week or before the loan window shuts at the end of August.

I just think after about 5 attempts, we should be asking a different question when it is clear what the answer will be.

I think the holdup with signing Koiki is that Jolley has limited budget left and is still on the market for a striker. If we sign one before the deadline and have change to spare for Koiki then we can sign him. I think the hold up is us and not Burnley

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I don't find that bit weird. They probably want to get him through their pre-season schedule to have a look and identify where they see him developing. It might be that there are a few potential moves for him and they are weighing up the best one. He is the only trialist MJ hasn't ruled out so I think he will sign this week or before the loan window shuts at the end of August.

I just think after about 5 attempts, we should be asking a different question when it is clear what the answer will be.

That's also fits in with MJ's response on the topic last week when he said 'when the time is right i'll go back to Burnley and ask the question'.... Or words to that effect.

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Quoted from headingly_mariner

I thought the pitch ruined it a bit. We were much the better side and showed some nice play even in the conditions. First time I’ve seen us this preseason and I am not sure we have the quality in the squad to achieve the success people are expecting. We have lots of young players and players who lack experience.
I’m excited to see how they get on but I’d like to see a few more quality additions especially in attacking positions. I think we have to be patient if it doesn’t start off well.

What success are people expecting, most voted for around midtable in a recent poll on here. Is that beyond our capabilities in your view?

Posting as a Town ex pat, who now lives in Gainsborough and as a shout out to the Town fan who I had the pleasure to stand next to, behind the goal during the first half (told you I would ). Grimsby played some nice football and were easily the best side in this game, rarely troubled by a Trinity side rebuilt since last seasons relegation from the National League North. What this performance is worth, is difficult to gauge, but having been to all Trinity's pre season friendlies this season, I can offer the following observations: Peterborough were a well organised outfit that played some nice football, but lacked that killer touch in front of goal. Town did better than them. Barnsley were a good team who like Town, dominated the match, but did not create as many chances as Town. Mansfield was not much of a proper game in that they brought the kids and thankfully for Town, were well beaten by Trinity. I think to summarise, lots of reasons to be cheerful for this coming season and whilst as we all know, pre season friendlies can mean nothing once the season proper starts, at least at this stage, things are looking at least a little hopeful. I wish you all the very very best of luck for this season. I hope to get over to BP at some stage this year, though have to admit the easy in and easy out of non league football does appeal to me a bit more these days. Think my problem is, that I am stuck in the perpetual nirvana that is 1998, can never top that !. UTM & God Save Livvo.

Quoted from Stew0_0

I think the holdup with signing Koiki is that Jolley has limited budget left and is still on the market for a striker. If we sign one before the deadline and have change to spare for Koiki then we can sign him. I think the hold up is us and not Burnley

Well i hope to god that aint the reason ..

We have just sold dembele so thats extra cash as he was not expected to leave when jolley was given his budget surely.

i hope for the life of me we aint not getting this over the line for the sake of a few hundred quid here and there, we still need a striker too so i hope MJ has the money available to do what he needs to do.

This season could be a good one but MJ needs all the help he can get within reason from the club and i hope he will get it.

I heard from the farmer's wife, who's cousin was speaking to the butcher, who's daughter works with a fishmonger that we are looking at a striker from Oxford and that Ben Davis is hoping he can get a contract.
I am not saying i know, its a rumour I heard and do not know where the source of the information. I thought I put out there.

Looking forward to the start of the season, knowing at least we will be playing football and what it brings. hopefully exciting times
ahead

UTM

Quoted from Gainsbro_Mariner

Agreed, don’t you think it seems a bit weird Burnley were willing to allow him to play a trial game but 3 weeks later we’ve not able to sign him on loan. Makes you wonder what Burnley are thinking about him ?

Maybe MJ has to offload one before getting Koiki in? Three left wing backs is hard to justify when building a squad. Try explaining that one to JF. Three for one position when some think that having five CMs for three places is having depth. After Whitehouse's injury, I still think MJ will be looking to strengthen there. It's a long way to January and we'd be just an injury or two away from not having choices or back up in that area. MJ has gone on record saying he'd like two players for each position. 5/3 is not quite there for CM and 3/1 for left wing back is overkill especially as he has trialled RHJ there.. Maybe Koiki is versatile enough at his age to provide cover in other areas too.

Regarding another striker.. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't sign another one. If the team is more solid in defence and midfield has more possession and not only creates more chances but also better quality chances, goalscoring could look after itself no matter who plays up front. Like everyone else, I would like to see a marquee striker signing, but I don't think it would be the end of the world if we didn't sign one..

I liked Koiki's athleticism and ability to spot the movement of others and play them in. Under our wing back system, wide players have to work so we need the cover. Woolford looked good against Trinity but he is better employed inside. His and Fox's recovery speed are a big question mark when we don't have the ball.

Quoted from Grimal

Not sure why you thought the pitch ruined it a bit, we were only saying that it looked in great condition and the groundsmen had done a good job.

Because it was way too long. Held the ball up and really slowed the game down.

Quoted from Cloudy

What success are people expecting, most voted for around midtable in a recent poll on here. Is that beyond our capabilities in your view?

Maybe I’ve misjudged it but i hear people talking about being right up there and a promotion season. That would be great but it would be a huge surprise to me.

We have a much changed and hopefully stronger defence and midfield. Our problem last season was scoring goals, can anyone look at our attacking players and honestly suggest that we are in a stronger position than when we started last season.

I’m pleased Vernam is here because he has real quality, but I am struggling to see where the goals will come from. Hopefully we will get 2 or 3 quality additions in before the window.

We barely stayed up last season and don’t seem to have strengthened our key weakness from last year.

We barely stayed up last season and don’t seem to have strengthened our key weakness from last year.

We have strengthened our key weakness hopefully. Jolly replacing he who I refuse to say the name of

Quoted from The Yard Dog

I heard from the farmer's wife, who's cousin was speaking to the butcher, who's daughter works with a fishmonger that we are looking at a striker from Oxford and that Ben Davis is hoping he can get a contract.
I am not saying i know, its a rumour I heard and do not know where the source of the information. I thought I put out there.

Looking forward to the start of the season, knowing at least we will be playing football and what it brings. hopefully exciting times
ahead

UTM

Looking at oxfords squad last year wes thomas would seem the obvious name as he was released in may. The other 2 possibilities would be Gino van Kessler or agon mehmeti

Quoted from Shipwrecked In Gainsborough

Posting as a Town ex pat, who now lives in Gainsborough and as a shout out to the Town fan who I had the pleasure to stand next to, behind the goal during the first half (told you I would ). Grimsby played some nice football and were easily the best side in this game, rarely troubled by a Trinity side rebuilt since last seasons relegation from the National League North. What this performance is worth, is difficult to gauge, but having been to all Trinity's pre season friendlies this season, I can offer the following observations: Peterborough were a well organised outfit that played some nice football, but lacked that killer touch in front of goal. Town did better than them. Barnsley were a good team who like Town, dominated the match, but did not create as many chances as Town. Mansfield was not much of a proper game in that they brought the kids and thankfully for Town, were well beaten by Trinity. I think to summarise, lots of reasons to be cheerful for this coming season and whilst as we all know, pre season friendlies can mean nothing once the season proper starts, at least at this stage, things are looking at least a little hopeful. I wish you all the very very best of luck for this season. I hope to get over to BP at some stage this year, though have to admit the easy in and easy out of non league football does appeal to me a bit more these days. Think my problem is, that I am stuck in the perpetual nirvana that is 1998, can never top that !. UTM & God Save Livvo.

Good to make your acquaintance yesterday Shipwrecked!

It was good to have a chat about the Town of today and from back in the day. Funny that we were reminiscing about ‘98 and Livvo and then one of the legends from that era, Paul Groves,  walks by at half time

It was a good afternoon all round....weather, result, ambience and company. Your assessment of the events now being an “outsider” were spot on

Let’s hope it’s going to be a successful season for GTFC in both cases!

How many town yesterday went ?

Announcer said total crowd was 779 I think? Seemed like 70% Mariners. Expected a few more Trinity fans.

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Good to make your acquaintance yesterday Shipwrecked!

It was good to have a chat about the Town of today and from back in the day. Funny that we were reminiscing about ‘98 and Livvo and then one of the legends from that era, Paul Groves,  walks by at half time

It was a good afternoon all round....weather, result, ambience and company. Your assessment of the events now being an “outsider” were spot on

Let’s hope it’s going to be a successful season for GTFC in both cases!

Ahh...excelent, sometimes people do remember, a genuine person which to me has always made being a Town fan special. Trinity supporters have a bit of the Town about them too, never expect too much, but fiercly proud when they over achieve. It was a pleasure to meet you. As a final footnote, there is a guy who takes some quite good photos of the action, does it for free, which is no great suprise at Trinity's level, but they are worth a look. I post the link below for those interested. Once again, the very best of luck, i will be watching!. Andy
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rudders9999/albums/72157699183529634
P.S. If you look carefully, you will find one of the photos that shows both of us behind the goal !.

Attendance on Trinity website given as 711. Codalmighty says 1397 with 157 away. Queue for chips at half time tells me it was closer to Cod's estimate!

Quoted from Croxton

Attendance on Trinity website given as 711. Codalmighty says 1397 with 157 away. Queue for chips at half time tells me it was closer to Cod's estimate!

Can't see 157, but 50% of the attendance were Grimsby and I would say it would have been 450 making it somewhere around the 900 mark

Quoted from Croxton

Attendance on Trinity website given as 711. Codalmighty says 1397 with 157 away. Queue for chips at half time tells me it was closer to Cod's estimate!

Very spooky.

That's EXACTLY the same as the attendance for our home game v Donny last Tuesday.  

Some have seen Koiki play once and think he's this incredible player.

I don't understand the hype over someone who hasn't played a professional game before?

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Some have seen Koiki play once and think he's this incredible player.

I don't understand the hype over someone who hasn't played a professional game before?

I haven't seen Koiki play yet, but i knew after 1 game that Conor Townsend was too good for non league and would play higher. I knew after 1 game that Charles Vernam would be a player worth pursuing. Perhaps the fans who have seen Koiki play recognised the same traits?

Quoted from ginnywings

I haven't seen Koiki play yet, but i knew after 1 game that Conor Townsend was too good for non league and would play higher. I knew after 1 game that Charles Vernam would be a player worth pursuing. Perhaps the fans who have seen Koiki play recognised the same traits?

I knew after one game that Anthony Church was an abomination of a footballer!

I knew after one game that Graham Hockless was a Joe Cole-lite who was going to fire us first time back into the second tier.

Quoted from ginnywings

I haven't seen Koiki play yet, but i knew after 1 game that Conor Townsend was too good for non league and would play higher. I knew after 1 game that Charles Vernam would be a player worth pursuing. Perhaps the fans who have seen Koiki play recognised the same traits?

Serge Makofo once had a good game

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Serge Makofo once had a good game

Yes, sharades with family at Christmas  

Ridiculously harsh on Church. He was a capable enough grafter who did well at a lower level but just wasn't quite quick or good enough for the 5th tier. Certainly not an 'abomination' in any way, shape or form.

Quoted from Maringer

Ridiculously harsh on Church. He was a capable enough grafter who did well at a lower level but just wasn't quite quick or good enough for the 5th tier. Certainly not an 'abomination' in any way, shape or form.

I agree, I have seen far worse play for Town.

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Serge Makofo once had a good game

Bath City away one season when he scored twice!

Every dog has its day, as the saying goes!

The other one I recall was Ademeno who was a big disappointment given his billing. Injuries aside, I'm pretty sure that the only goals he scored for us were hopelessly mishit shots which somehow found their way into the net!

Church covered an awful lot of ground in a match,under Slade's regime this would have made him star player.Thought we got rid too soon as he was getting better towards end.

Les Brechin     
July 30, 2018,

Quoted from Croxton
Attendance on Trinity website given as 711. Codalmighty says 1397 with 157 away. Queue for chips at half time tells me it was closer to Cod's estimate!


Very spooky.

That's EXACTLY the same as the attendance for our home game v Donny last Tuesday.  


Thanks les!  My bad, as the young uns say.  Apologies to Codalmighty.. Self imposed ban now till after FG.

Quoted from Shipwrecked In Gainsborough

Ahh...excelent, sometimes people do remember, a genuine person which to me has always made being a Town fan special. Trinity supporters have a bit of the Town about them too, never expect too much, but fiercly proud when they over achieve. It was a pleasure to meet you. As a final footnote, there is a guy who takes some quite good photos of the action, does it for free, which is no great suprise at Trinity's level, but they are worth a look. I post the link below for those interested. Once again, the very best of luck, i will be watching!. Andy
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rudders9999/albums/72157699183529634
P.S. If you look carefully, you will find one of the photos that shows both of us behind the goal !.

A few good shots there SiG  

It's a good job your man had his wide angled lens on hand to fit in the back row behind the goal  

I was telling one of my Tiger workmates this morning about the Trinity set up.... I was expecting something like what North Ferriby have but what you have there in Gainsborough is a credit to everyone associated with the club.

I thoroughly enjoyed the afternoon and hopefully you'll have a lot more enjoyable games to witness yourself in the coming season..

Quoted from Maringer

Ridiculously harsh on Church. He was a capable enough grafter who did well at a lower level but just wasn't quite quick or good enough for the 5th tier. Certainly not an 'abomination' in any way, shape or form.

Surely a players ability is subjective? That's just my opinion of the few times I saw Church play live. Who's to say that's wrong?

I respect your opinion however.