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1mickylyons
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When you read the report on Hurst's transfer involvements it just highlights the differences in the amounts of money available [ millions that Bristol City can fork out ] compared to money that is being made available to Town. Scunthorpe rejecting £400K for Townsend on gates no more than ours. Is there something I am missing


Eveything else aside I would imagine Scunny are raking in 2-3 times the tv revenue of Town at least? Last season Scunny were on live at least 3 times not sure what payment that gets but bound to be substantial?
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Also, I don't think we've won a single cup game since we got back in the league, which won't have helped the budget at all.


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Hope we get him in a cup run this season


It would be worth it for the inevitable goal celebration from the Town fans. 👂
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For anyone interested in reading about Hurst, there's a very open and interesting interview with him in the East Anglia Times >

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/paul-hurst-the-big-interview-1-5631473

Great read I thought.

However, his take on wanting players to hate losing more than they love winning was very interesting. Wonder if that leads to his cautious nature and that of his teams here which often saw us appear to settle for a point & not take many calculated risks to push on for a win?
Might point to why we often went on decent "unbeaten" runs but never any good "winning" runs. Where we'd be unbeaten in 7 but 4 of them were draws and such like.

Not intended as a criticism of PH. It's something that arguably works for him as he's progressed his career relatively quickly. But you could always question what could he have done better (as any professional would ask of themselves).

And his "hate losing more than you love winning" mantra is probably great for firefighting jobs like when he went into Shrewsbury when they were in s relegation battle. But maybe if you're at the top end of the league that needs to evolve into a "winning" mentality rather than a "not losing" mentality. Just my opinion. And I might be reading too much into it. Sports psychologists might have more insight than me.


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That article is a great read. I see your point Tommy about his hate losing mantra but this is a guy with a 50% win rate as manager. The great Alan Buckley had a 38% win rate and an unblemished reform with no relegations.

He always had us fighting for a play off place (1st full season aside) and his win rate (combined with Rob Scott) was 47.5%. We drew 3 games more than we lost over his time here. His record at Shrewsbury was similar and that achieved a play off place, which Ipswich fans would snap your hand off for right now.

Your argument is one that will always be there to be debated because going for a win is going to prove unsuccessful sometimes too and result in being hit on the break. I guess it is finding that balance and is the difference between automatic promotion and mid table.

Would you rather see your team lose 4-3 going for the win or draw 1-1?
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He's just said what everyone worked out for themselves while he was here. He's a percentage manager, who is happy to get to the play offs and gamble from there. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't. He's not yet won outright promotion from a league and he may never achieve that, but he certainly knows how to organise teams, and how to further his career in the process. Not sure the fans will tolerate his style, the higher he climbs.
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He’s progressed to an IPad.....


you can take the boy out of grimsby......but you can't take grimsby out of his soul, his blood, his semen!  
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Let's be honest Hurst served a tough apprenticeship here but he did ok and it has served him well.
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Let's be honest Hurst served a tough apprenticeship here but he did ok and it has served him well.


Think that`s a very fair and apt assessment.
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When he was here I remember him saying that as a player he always got the most satisfaction out of those 1-0 smash 'n'  grab style wins where it was backs to the wall for most of the game.  I think a lot of that came through as a manager too.

When all is said and done, he's managing in the Championship now and we've spent the last two years wondering what could have been with various players/managers.  I hope he does well at Ipswich.  He may be a grump but his mantra about hard work is a great one to have.
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