Wot? No season ticket sales thread?

Quoted from bax

They’ll just force you out if you challenge the status quo 😉

Who forces someone off the board?

Could it be that not everyone holds the same views and, as with any democratic body, the majority will hold sway?

If such a direction is against your personal views you can either make the best of it and chip away or resign and walk away. That is individual choice depending on circumstances although in my experience throwing your toys out of the pram and alluding to vague injustices makes one look rather silly

UTM

Quoted from Cloudy

Who forces someone off the board?

Could it be that not everyone holds the same views and, as with any democratic body, the majority will hold sway?

If such a direction is against your personal views you can either make the best of it and chip away or resign and walk away. That is individual choice depending on circumstances although in my experience throwing your toys out of the pram and alluding to vague injustices makes one look rather silly

UTM

More than happy to share the emails from the Trust board member to the club board saying he didn’t agree with the fans survey or the direction of the Trust so he could save his seat on the board if you’d prefer?

I’m not interested in ‘vague injustices’ - the fans suffer when they’re not represented as they should be. And they’re not being under the current setup of the Trust. Just my opinion having witnessed it first hand.

Quoted from bax

More than happy to share the emails from the Trust board member to the club board saying he didn’t agree with the fans survey or the direction of the Trust so he could save his seat on the board if you’d prefer?

I’m not interested in ‘vague injustices’ - the fans suffer when they’re not represented as they should be. And they’re not being under the current setup of the Trust. Just my opinion having witnessed it first hand.

Sorry bax but this being the case surely all the more reason you should hang in and effect change the survey as I recall was at the request of the members?

if people are working behind your back to discredit something the fans think you are doing to benefit them, I don’t want to be a part of that. I didn’t want to be involved in a sham survey

Who said ‘when you lose trust...’?

Quoted from bax

if people are working behind your back to discredit something the fans think you are doing to benefit them, I don’t want to be a part of that. I didn’t want to be involved in a sham survey

Who said ‘when you lose trust...’?

All fine but that was months ago and as I posted previously if you aren't happy walk away and let that be the end of it.

Move on but I don't think it would benefit anyone to post once a month about perceived injustices and wrong doings.
Either have it out and forget about it otherwise wash both sides dirty washing in public which imo doesn't do anyone or any group any favours.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

To be clear by regime I mean Fenty et al. Promotion under Jolley - to 3.5k in the first season maybe 4k absolute tops and then he gets poached...

And in IMHO GTFC are a bigger club than Rotherham United for example, but until those that run the club run it like it is the 140th anniversary and not 1978 we are stuck in the cycle of relative decline.

Explain why you think GTFC are a bigger club than Rotherham? How can you quantify that one club is bigger than another? Do you judge it by fanbase? I don't know what the population of Rotherham is but I would imagine it is larger than NE Lincs plus it has a more densly populated hinterland with large conurbatios like Wickersley and Maltby close by. Historical success , especially going back decades, doesn't necessarily make one club bigger than another either. Consistency at a higher level in the " football pyramid " is certainly one yardstick that could be used to measure it by Regardless of any of this I just don't get this often repeated expression on this site that " we are a bigger club than so and so and look where they are ".

On the subject of ST sales it would be interesting to see what they were during our successful periods in the 60's , 70's or 80's or when AB took us to the second tier of English football?

I’ll judge the current trust set up by looking at their view on the Stevenage away game.
It’s not so long ago they were vastly behind a boycott.  Let’s see if that is still the case.

Quoted from rancido

Explain why you think GTFC are a bigger club than Rotherham? How can you quantify that one club is bigger than another? Do you judge it by fanbase? I don't know what the population of Rotherham is but I would imagine it is larger than NE Lincs plus it has a more densly populated hinterland with large conurbatios like Wickersley and Maltby close by. Historical success , especially going back decades, doesn't necessarily make one club bigger than another either. Consistency at a higher level in the " football pyramid " is certainly one yardstick that could be used to measure it by Regardless of any of this I just don't get this often repeated expression on this site that " we are a bigger club than so and so and look where they are ".

On the subject of ST sales it would be interesting to see what they were during our successful periods in the 60's , 70's or 80's or when AB took us to the second tier of English football?

Your tests above plus ability to attract players and managers? Maybe we aren't any more and never will be again, but Rotherham at Millmoor and Donny at Belle Vue(as another example) did not match  GTFC on any test you care to mention when the club was 100 years old - historical success, consistency at a higher level in the pyramid, ability to attract fans, players and managers. GTFC have failed to deliver the infrastructure required to keep up with these and many other clubs and that has contributed to the relative failure on the pitch...

The problem with looking at attendances over the years is that during our most successful times of the 70's/80's and early 90's crowds everywhere were at a low mainly due to it not being as popular pre Sky TV and widespread football violence so it's hard to judge. Hull City in one season struggled to attract 2000 home supporters and Doncaster even less.

Quoted from Cloudy

All fine but that was months ago and as I posted previously if you aren't happy walk away and let that be the end of it.

Move on but I don't think it would benefit anyone to post once a month about perceived injustices and wrong doings.
Either have it out and forget about it otherwise wash both sides dirty washing in public which imo doesn't do anyone or any group any favours.

You’re getting an insight from someone who worked closely
with those that run the Club and the Trust. He’s already told us that someone on the club’s board wrote communications for the Trust. He’s telling us that sections of the Trust board don’t want to act on the results of the survey.

These are the things we need to know and expose the mismanagement of the club. How can it change if these things aren’t brought to light?