Chris Long

Looks like town are highly interested in Chris Long recently released by Burnley.

Alothough interest in a number of league one clubs proving it to be a hard process is signing the player according to radio Humberside.

Is the striker that we are all wanting who can score the goals this season?

The icing on the cake upfront?

He would certainly rekt teams in league 2

If Chris Long signed would make us Play off candidates would score goals at this level.

Quoted from fiveallive

If Chris Long signed would make us Play off candidates would score goals at this level.

Are you sure?

Has anyone asked Lincoln Vital if he's any good?

Am still really unsure about Long, 19 goals in 90 just does not seem good enough, as that works out at just under a goal every five games. While these goals have come at a higher level, I am somewhat doubtful of how much more prolific he would actually be if he dropped down to League Two. Having said that, he is still young and I will be more than happy to be proven wrong.

Or would we prefer John Akinde if we could convince him and come up with a deal?
Unlikely

Amond, Bogle, Connell. None of these where big goal machines before they joined us.

Quoted from scrumble

Amond, Bogle, Connell. None of these where big goal machines before they joined us.

Is it worth the gamble though? For every Bogle, there is a Scott Vernon, every Amond, there is a Pat Hoban.

Every signing's a gamble, to a degree. IF MJ thinks he's worth signing, that's good enough for me.

As for Bogle, wasn't he top scorer in the league below us when we signed him?

Quoted from Abdul19

Every signing's a gamble, to a degree. IF MJ thinks he's worth signing, that's good enough for me.

As for Bogle, wasn't he top scorer in the league below us when we signed him?

yeah, Bogle had 62 in 111 at Solihull. So I am not quite sure what scrumble's definition of a goal machine is...

Quoted from Hannilowe

Am still really unsure about Long, 19 goals in 90 just does not seem good enough, as that works out at just under a goal every five games. While these goals have come at a higher level, I am somewhat doubtful of how much more prolific he would actually be if he dropped down to League Two. Having said that, he is still young and I will be more than happy to be proven wrong.

Not sure what you expect but scoring 4 in 10 games for Brentford in the Championship and 9 in 38 (?) in a side struggling at the bottom of League 1 isnt bad.Last season i dont think we had a striker who had 9 shots!!

No idea if we are even in for him but if he came I for one would be far more positive than you thats for sure!

The thing is would all his passes be Long balls.     UTM

Quoted from Cloudy

Not sure what you expect but scoring 4 in 10 games for Brentford in the Championship and 9 in 38 (?) in a side struggling at the bottom of League 1 isnt bad.Last season i dont think we had a striker who had 9 shots!!

No idea if we are even in for him but if he came I for one would be far more positive than you thats for sure!

Thing is, you are ignoring his less prolific seasons, such as 4 in 18 at Fleetwood, and 1 in 10 at Bolton, both of which were at League One level. There is no point quoting a couple of good seasons, and then concluding he is a good player. Like I said earlier, I hope I am proven wrong, and I trust Jolley, but I just do not think that he is the right man.

Quoted from Hannilowe

Thing is, you are ignoring his less prolific seasons, such as 4 in 18 at Fleetwood, and 1 in 10 at Bolton, both of which were at League One level. There is no point quoting a couple of good seasons, and then concluding he is a good player. Like I said earlier, I hope I am proven wrong, and I trust Jolley, but I just do not think that he is the right man.

Northampton was last season and iirc, Brentford a couple of seasons before as a kid!
He is 23 FFS!!!
STILL learning te game!

Quoted from Hannilowe

Thing is, you are ignoring his less prolific seasons, such as 4 in 18 at Fleetwood, and 1 in 10 at Bolton, both of which were at League One level. There is no point quoting a couple of good seasons, and then concluding he is a good player. Like I said earlier, I hope I am proven wrong, and I trust Jolley, but I just do not think that he is the right man.

1 goal in 3 starts at Bolton.

4 goals in 2 starts at Brentford

9 goals in 30 starts at struggling Northampton.

Some people will never be happy!

Out of a total of 48 shots last season, only 52% of them were on target (that's 25 shots), of that 25, he scored nine. So even last season, he had a conversion rate of 18.8% of total shots, and 36% of shots on target. I get what you are trying to say in terms of his age, but it is unlikely that he will turn into this star striker everyone is talking about if he is still finding his way in the game! There is just as much chance of Louis Robles, Ahkeem Rose or Jordan Cook doing the same!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/northampton-town/top-scorers

Quoted from Hannilowe

Thing is, you are ignoring his less prolific seasons, such as 4 in 18 at Fleetwood, and 1 in 10 at Bolton, both of which were at League One level. There is no point quoting a couple of good seasons, and then concluding he is a good player. Like I said earlier, I hope I am proven wrong, and I trust Jolley, but I just do not think that he is the right man.

7 sub appearances at Bolton in those 10, and unlikely to get in ahead of Madine and Le Fondre in a promotion-winning side. How often do strikers score in 10 minutes here, or 20 there? Not very.

Like Homer Simpson said, facts can be used to prove anything that’s even remotely true. What’s for certain though is he scored more last season in a relegated side, in a division above, than any of our strikers and in fact most of them combined.

Exactly. At least find out how many appearances are starts before you write someone off.

Quoted from sam gy

Exactly. At least find out how many appearances are starts before you write someone off.

.. unless he signs for someone else!

This would be an Awesome signing for us!! You don’t get to Play England U16,17,18,19 & 20s for being OK!!

A proven goal scorer, we can’t afford and they are in high demand. I honestly don’t think we’ll struggle for goals this year. I think the whole Team will be chipping in!!

I can’t remember a period of optimism quite like this.

Trust in MJ!! If it wasn’t for him, we would be playing Solihull at Home first game!! He knows what he’s doing!!

Even when you take starts into account, his record is hardly dazzling. Throughout his career, he has made 55 starts, which means he has a rate of roughly a goal every 3 games. This is average at best. Also, its interesting that my above post about his conversion rate has gone ignored. At Northampton last season, he had a conversion rate of 18.8%. If Slade had signed someone with that conversion rate, most of you would be calling for his head immediately!

Quoted from Hannilowe

Even when you take starts into account, his record is hardly dazzling. Throughout his career, he has made 55 starts, which means he has a rate of roughly a goal every 3 games. This is average at best. Also, its interesting that my above post about his conversion rate has gone ignored. At Northampton last season, he had a conversion rate of 18.8%. If Slade had signed someone with that conversion rate, most of you would be calling for his head immediately!

Are you an accountant?!

Has he upset you in a former life Hannilowe ,because your like a dog with a bone(stato) he's highly regarded and being chased by a few clubs, his record isn't amazing but as others have stated Amond, Conlon amongst others didn't either but turned out ok,If he signs and I hope he does take a few deep breaths and chill because you never know he may be awesome.UTM

1 goal in 3 is not average... but it is all about opinions...

Quoted from Hannilowe

Even when you take starts into account, his record is hardly dazzling. Throughout his career, he has made 55 starts, which means he has a rate of roughly a goal every 3 games. This is average at best. Also, its interesting that my above post about his conversion rate has gone ignored. At Northampton last season, he had a conversion rate of 18.8%. If Slade had signed someone with that conversion rate, most of you would be calling for his head immediately!

This is a weirdly reductive way of measuring the worth of a striker. Firstly, we don't know exactly in what conditions he was playing in those games. Was he a regular starter? Was he mainly coming off the bench? Was he first choice? Who did he have around him that would help his game (and the team's)? How was the team he was playing for performing in those games?

I just don't think you can look at goals-to-game as the sole arbiter of whether a striker is any cop. There are assists to take account of, too, plus his work for the team. We've had plenty of brilliant strikers over the years whose goals-to-game wasn't all that, but we still loved them for their overall game.

One example. I took a look at Danny Ings' record at Burnley. Good enough to earn him a move to Liverpool. Considered prolific at Turf Moor. He scored 38 goals in 122 games. He was a great player for them.

I don't know anything about Chris Long, but then I doubt whether anyone else arguing on here does either. We have to trust that the manager knows what he's doing.

Have I missed an announcement of his signing otherwise there appears a long debate on the merits of a striker whose name was mentioned on that hot bed of sport Radio Humberside!!!!

Quoted from Hannilowe

Even when you take starts into account, his record is hardly dazzling. Throughout his career, he has made 55 starts, which means he has a rate of roughly a goal every 3 games. This is average at best. Also, its interesting that my above post about his conversion rate has gone ignored. At Northampton last season, he had a conversion rate of 18.8%. If Slade had signed someone with that conversion rate, most of you would be calling for his head immediately!

Someone else mentioned the 'Championship Manager' approach of 1 in 2 or else your no good. I'd say that 1 in 3 at a higher level is a fantastic return. I recall we played 68 games in one of our Wembley years (98?), so someone getting 22/23 goals if they played regularly would not be acceptable? Madness in my opinion.

And more importantly than that, does anyone really think that a player who is young, and has a goals ratio of lets say 1/2 would be available to ANY team below his current level? If they moved at all, it would be up. If we want young players from above us who are likely to continue to improve, our only option would be to cherry pick players who have either underperformed, or found the above level just a little too much for them at this stage.

Quoted from Hannilowe

Even when you take starts into account, his record is hardly dazzling. Throughout his career, he has made 55 starts, which means he has a rate of roughly a goal every 3 games. This is average at best. Also, its interesting that my above post about his conversion rate has gone ignored. At Northampton last season, he had a conversion rate of 18.8%.If Slade had signed someone with that conversion rate, most of you would be calling for his head immediately!

Hi Russ.

Quoted from Hannilowe

Even when you take starts into account, his record is hardly dazzling. Throughout his career, he has made 55 starts, which means he has a rate of roughly a goal every 3 games. This is average at best. Also, its interesting that my above post about his conversion rate has gone ignored. At Northampton last season, he had a conversion rate of 18.8%. If Slade had signed someone with that conversion rate, most of you would be calling for his head immediately!

I'd far rather we sign a 23 year old with that conversion rate (all scored at a higher level) than a Scott Vernon who was on the way down.

Like I have said previously I don't have any idea if Long is the striker we are in for but expect a decision either way by Friday at the very latest.

From the stats quoted by our friend I think he would be a cracking signing

Quoted from Teesknees

Are you an accountant?!

Shut  Up !!!!!!!!

Quoted from Hannilowe

At Northampton last season, he had a conversion rate of 18.8%. If Slade had signed someone with that conversion rate, most of you would be calling for his head immediately!

There was a striker in the Premier League last season who had a conversion rate of 16.3%

He's currently the World Cup's top scorer!

Quoted from Hannilowe

Out of a total of 48 shots last season, only 52% of them were on target (that's 25 shots), of that 25, he scored nine. So even last season, he had a conversion rate of 18.8% of total shots, and 36% of shots on target. I get what you are trying to say in terms of his age, but it is unlikely that he will turn into this star striker everyone is talking about if he is still finding his way in the game! There is just as much chance of Louis Robles, Ahkeem Rose or Jordan Cook doing the same!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/northampton-town/top-scorers

I'd say 100% of your comments are she*te.
Your conversation rate of absolute bolo*8x per post is also 100%, of that and based on your age I'd say the probability is 87.4% that you are Russell Slade.

How about we wait to see if he signs first ?!

If we should sign Chris Long,we have him and Big Chris, all we need is Chris Short and Little Chris and we have the whole set.  

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Have I missed an announcement of his signing otherwise there appears a long debate on the merits of a striker whose name was mentioned on that hot bed of sport Radio Humberside!!!!

to be fair it was a tweet from Matt Dean ....so its as good as a done deal  

One goal in every 3 starts? I'd settle for a striker scoring 16 League goals next season after what we experienced last year.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I'd far rather we sign a 23 year old with that conversion rate (all scored at a higher level) than a Scott Vernon who was on the way down.

To be technically fair, Chris Long would also be on his way down if he came to us.

Quoted from Hannilowe

Even when you take starts into account, his record is hardly dazzling. Throughout his career, he has made 55 starts, which means he has a rate of roughly a goal every 3 games. This is average at best. Also, its interesting that my above post about his conversion rate has gone ignored. At Northampton last season, he had a conversion rate of 18.8%. If Slade had signed someone with that conversion rate, most of you would be calling for his head immediately!

but have they been stop start appearances?  Sometimes if you don't get a run of games it can be difficult to build up momentum, especially if you don't hit the ground running and score.  Like already mentioned previously, goalscorers are in high demand and those out of contract may wait longer to decide because they are good enough to get a club, and those under contract will require a fee, which we probably haven't got, despite the Dembele sale.  There is always the loan market I guess.

Personally I think MJ has used some of the Dembele money to increase the wage budget, I very much doubt Welsh is on 1k a week.

How Long must this go on?

Will he sign a short term contract or Long?

This is quite a long thread for somebody who has not even signed yet and may not even sign!

oops I have just made it 1 post longer

With all the interest it could be a Long process

I'm just longing for it to end frankly

Incidentally where are the Burnley U23s I was so hoping for, perhaps they'll be arriving on loan

Someone on twitter (ExAgent) seems to think we won't be signing him.