Omar Bogle

Saw on twitter that Omar Bogle might be going to a league 2 club on loan. I dont know how reliable the twitter page is, but he appears to have called a lot of signings right. Could be us.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ExAgent1

Hope so....that would be a statement of intent.

Would make sense if he came back bums on seats etc, but its just a pipe dream---------isn`t it?

Lincoln believed to be in the running. I’d be surprised if he came back to league 2. Rumour was Posh had to pay £7k of his weekly wage last season when on loan there.

I'm not Twitter literate but if those 'who to follow' things are any guide, he's off to Lincoln. Imagine the gloating that'll follow that.  

No chance

Capable but equally frustrating.

Not sure if he would fit in with Jolley workrate ethos?

Having not played consistently for over a year I wouldn't be breaking the bank tbh.

Who can afford £5/6/7k per week in League 2? If anyone does it destroys team spirit over night

Think I would rather focus on building a real team but concede we desperately need a striker or two

Quoted from oldun

No chance

Not so sure heard that rumour more than once over here in Lincoln and they are not short of cash. Don’t believe they are yet in a position where they can pay kind of wages Posh are said to have done but certainly could pay more than us.

Going for a haircut soon so will see what fanatical Imps fan Tom has to say re this rumour.

Well they’ve taken Poshs captain off them last year wouldn’t rule anything out. Would break my heart to see him in a Lincoln shirt purely on the basis of that final alone he’s always got a place in our hearts. Best player I’ve seen in the past 7/8 years at town.

Think I would be hugely gutted if the hero of Wembley went to lincoln

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Think I would be hugely gutted if the hero of Wembley went to lincoln

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Couldn't give a shite either way. Will never understand this obsession people have with old players. He was only at town for 18 months ffs.

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Couldn't give a shite either way. Will never understand this obsession people have with old players. He was only at town for 18 months ffs.

And he was the player that was the difference in the final about us being a league team and not a conference team.

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Couldn't give a shite either way. Will never understand this obsession people have with old players. He was only at town for 18 months ffs.

True, but he had the best song we've had for a player in years

If he goes to Lincoln we will never ever hear the end of it, he certainly won't come here. It'll be Mansfield probably

He’s had a disappointing 18 months since leaving us but there will be takers higher than League Two willing to take a punt on him.

I love the idea of Omar returning but there are so many reasons why it won’t / can’t happen - money being just one of them. Think this one needs putting to bed.

Lincoln have never bothered me. But they are starting to annoy me with their new found supporters who are full of excrement and seem to have a 12 month memory in relation to history and stature of the respective clubs. Lincoln have never done anything, I applauded them when the reached the FA Cup quarter finals mind.

But what passes for 'football' there and has done as long as I can ever remember is a danger to low and mid flying birds, I couldn't pay to watch that, I tried to last season under Coco but even with my season ticket paid for, I stayed away for a few games. The Cowley's are just hoof ball merchants and an insult to football.

Anyway, after that ramble, I would be pleased of they signed Bogle on loan. His wages will be in the five figure weekly wage bracket, even a 40 percent contribution would hit them in the financial goolies in no time at all.

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Lincoln have never bothered me. But they are starting to annoy me with their new found supporters who are full of excrement and seem to have a 12 month memory in relation to history and stature of the respective clubs. Lincoln have never done anything, I applauded them when the reached the FA Cup quarter finals mind.

But what passes for 'football' there and has done as long as I can ever remember is a danger to low and mid flying birds, I couldn't pay to watch that, I tried to last season under Coco but even with my season ticket paid for, I stayed away for a few games. The Cowley's are just hoof ball merchants and an insult to football.

Anyway, after that ramble, I would be pleased of they signed Bogle on loan. His wages will be in the five figure weekly wage bracket, even a 40 percent contribution would hit them in the financial goolies in no time at all.

I think we’re becoming a little obsessed with Lincoln on here in truth. He will find a top-end League One club as an absolute minimum in my opinion. As you say, his weekly wage is likely to be in the five-figure bracket and I honestly don’t think there is a club in our division right now capable of paying a proportion that would come close to making it worth Cardiff’s while to let him go.

The lad left us 18 months ago. Since then he has played 33 games for 3 different clubs with a goal tally in single figures. Something is not right is it? Bogle is a talented player and he should have been able to adapt to different managers and their ways better than that. He has been unlucky with injuries maybe but that doesn’t explain why he hasn’t progressed. If he wants to get back in the running for a Prem place he needs to kickstart his career with regular games and a lot of goals. Here? I think he needs too much work and coddling and Jolley probably has better things to do. It would also mean putting too many eggs in one budget basket.  Bogle would do better in L1 and I’m not sure he is the sort of player to take over from the Lincoln Man-Mountain is he?

Quoted from Poojah

I think we’re becoming a little obsessed with Lincoln on here in truth. He will find a top-end League One club as an absolute minimum in my opinion. As you say, his weekly wage is likely to be in the five-figure bracket and I honestly don’t think there is a club in our division right now capable of paying a proportion that would come close to making it worth Cardiff’s while to let him go.

I think you need to look at Lincoln Vital to see obsession. They're obviously mentioned on here in a thread about a Lincoln player joining us, while the divs on Vital apparently can't stomach an Imp joining 'bitter arch-rivals' Grimsby, forgetting that this happens a lot in reverse, including the excellent Batch, Cummings and other transfers of the past. One div recalls the upset when Glenn Cockerill swapped his Lincoln shirt for a Town one, even though it never happened.

Another fan is gutted to think that the Lincoln player who scored their (only) famous goal at Wembley will be wearing a Town shirt, ignoring the fact that Arnold (scorer of a particularly famous Wembley goal) then joined them months later.

It's so clueless, awfully biased and detached from reality that their Vital forum could almost be a very clever parody of a typical shity-football-forum in the misinformed digital age.

I still don't get why he's called the two goal Wembley hero, he only scored one. The other goal was an own goal all day long.

Bogle has upset Warnock .... doomed he

Is

Nope, cannot see Bogle coming to SB, as mentioned, far more likely to a Mansfield or maybe a FGR if they sell Doidge.

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I think you need to look at Lincoln Vital to see obsession. They're obviously mentioned on here in a thread about a Lincoln player joining us, while the divs on Vital apparently can't stomach an Imp joining 'bitter arch-rivals' Grimsby, forgetting that this happens a lot in reverse, including the excellent Batch, Cummings and other transfers of the past. One div recalls the upset when Glenn Cockerill swapped his Lincoln shirt for a Town one, even though it never happened.

Another fan is gutted to think that the Lincoln player who scored their (only) famous goal at Wembley will be wearing a Town shirt, ignoring the fact that Arnold (scorer of a particularly famous Wembley goal) then joined them months later.

It's so clueless, awfully biased and detached from reality that their Vital forum could almost be a very clever parody of a typical shity-football-forum in the misinformed digital age.

Oh, the irony of this statement !!

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Couldn't give a shite either way. Will never understand this obsession people have with old players. He was only at town for 18 months ffs.

I agree Skaface. We bought him, he made his mark and put himself in the " market place ", we moved him on and made a nice tidy sum on him, end of.

Quoted from rancido

Oh, the irony of this statement !!

Oh bollox. Some people have a really hard time with 'irony', I simply point out that fair a discussion on a Lincoln player who is now a Town player leads to endless bitter sometimes idiotic comments on their forum and give some examples so you can compare the two.  

Irony

Warnock described Omar as "a project" so unless he really has upset him can't see any way he's coming back to league two, let alone us. Given that most of them are on holiday it all sounds like weird and if he goes anywhere my guess would be lower championship.

Seems unlikely at best. But it would certainly put a stop to the gloating about Whitehouse from some in our quarter.

Is bogle really that good ? He’s not managed to do anything in the championship and I didn’t see him making much of an impact in L1 with Peterborough. We did a great bit of business imo .
Wouldn’t really be excited to have him back and fooking urine.ed off paying £7 grand a week

I think he blotted his copy book with Warnock early on when he got sent off against Bristol City in the 'local' derby

Just don't see a place for him at Cardiff or in the Championship for that matter. Div 1 at best, not at BP thank you!

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Couldn't give a shite either way. Will never understand this obsession people have with old players. He was only at town for 18 months ffs.

Yes,but his transfer money enabled us to make great signings later in the reign of Slade and Wilkinson

He is worth £2 grand a week for his goals,

BUT

That would mean Cardiff paying him the other £5 grand,

It will not happen.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

The lad left us 18 months ago. Since then he has played 33 games for 3 different clubs with a goal tally in single figures. Something is not right is it? Bogle is a talented player and he should have been able to adapt to different managers and their ways better than that. He has been unlucky with injuries maybe but that doesn’t explain why he hasn’t progressed. If he wants to get back in the running for a Prem place he needs to kickstart his career with regular games and a lot of goals. Here? I think he needs too much work and coddling and Jolley probably has better things to do. It would also mean putting too many eggs in one budget basket.  Bogle would do better in L1 and I’m not sure he is the sort of player to take over from the Lincoln Man-Mountain is he?

100%

Quoted from RoboCod

Oh bollox. Some people have a really hard time with 'irony', I simply point out that fair a discussion on a Lincoln player who is now a Town player leads to endless bitter sometimes idiotic comments on their forum and give some examples so you can compare the two.  

Irony

But you mentioned the fact that Lincoln fans are obsessed with us and then admit you go on their site. That is irony.

IRONY: (fig) - a result precisely opposite in effect from what might have been  expected from it's cause.

And there was no need for the " bollox "!!!

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Oh bollox. Some people have a really hard time with 'irony', I simply point out that fair a discussion on a Lincoln player who is now a Town player leads to endless bitter sometimes idiotic comments on their forum and give some examples so you can compare the two.  

Irony

From someone who now lives in Lincoln, sensibly LC v GY chat is hard to come by. I’ve got a couple of mates who are season ticket holders and are real sensible straight talkers but most are biased and obsessed. As I’ve seen us play in higher divisions I’ve stated a few times to them that honestly I dislike Scunny and Hull and that Lincoln don’t really bother me that much. In fact the first time we played Lincoln in my adult life outside of pre-season friendlies and a 2001 Cup tie was in 2004 . It’s a bizzare rivalry, despite them techically being our modern day rival there is a lot of hate from them that just isn’t resiprocated by us. I don’t think we really cared at all seeing Kingsley Black, Martin Gritton, Peter Bore, Liam Hearn or Nathan Arnold in red and white but on the flip side Scott Kerr was the anti christ for joining us a couple of years after leaving them. I wouldn’t say it’s a one sided rivalry but the level of obsession isn’t there.

I'm glad they made it out of the conference as it adds a couple of spicy local derbies to the fixture list.

Better to have them than Boreham Wood, Braintree, Eastleigh of plenty of others we could name.

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I'm glad they made it out of the conference as it adds a couple of spicy local derbies to the fixture list.

Better to have them than Boreham Wood, Braintree, Eastleigh of plenty of others we could name.

Fair point but I get the impression from down the road that Lincoln will be playing Real Madrid in the Champions League Final shortly.

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From someone who now lives in Lincoln, sensibly LC v GY chat is hard to come by. I’ve got a couple of mates who are season ticket holders and are real sensible straight talkers but most are biased and obsessed. As I’ve seen us play in higher divisions I’ve stated a few times to them that honestly I dislike Scunny and Hull and that Lincoln don’t really bother me that much. In fact the first time we played Lincoln outside of pre-season friendlies and a 2001 Cup tie was in 2004. It’s a bizzare rivalry, despite them techically being our modern day rival there is a lot of hate from them that just isn’t resiprocated by us. I don’t think we really cared at all seeing Kingsley Black, Martin Gritton, Peter Bore, Liam Hearn or Nathan Arnold in red and white but on the flip side Scott Kerr was the anti christ for joining us a couple of years after leaving them. I wouldn’t say it’s a one sided rivalry but the level of obsession isn’t there.

I think it's mainly a sense of superiority from the GTFC side. Lincoln were way below us for a long time so going there was seen as a step down and no big threat to any of us. Most GTFC fans see us as what we were a long time ago still so older rivalries in higher leagues mean more like Hull for example, when was the last time we played them in a league game? But most Town fans still hate Hull as it has always been traditionally. The way people talk about Lincoln is still talking down like "oh little old Lincoln is doing well these days, ho hum" so can see how we'd be less bothered about certain things. The Lincoln side look at us as their closest league rivals for a long time now since we've been the derby day and in the same league for a while. They think joining Grimsby is a betrayal because they place value in that rivalry. We refuse to see them as rivals because we think they are beneath us and not big enough a club to be considered a rival because of the past.

To be honest I welcome the challenge by Lincoln.... God knows its long overdue!

But in the grand scheme of things I don't give two shits what they do, how many games or trophies they win, who they sign, the amount of season tickets they've sold or the current circumference of Matt Rhead trousers compared to Danny Cowley's ego!

We're in the midst of a bright new era at GTFC under Michael Jolley and my sole focus is on Town and Town only.

#UTFM

Was there ever much animosity with Hull? I’m sure there used to be barneys but that was just what happened back 40-50 years ago. Other Yorkshire teams was a bit different.

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Was there ever much animosity with Hull? I’m sure there used to be barneys but that was just what happened back 40-50 years ago. Other Yorkshire teams was a bit different.

I still look upon Hull City as our main and most important local rivals. Lesser clubs Scunthorpe and (especially) Lincoln just don't count for me

Was there much animosity Swin?

Used to be a small crowd of Hull lads who would join up with GY lads mid 80s, used to be a bit of bother when playing Hull, never like Scunny though imo.

Quoted from coddy60

Used to be a small crowd of Hull lads who would join up with GY lads mid 80s, used to be a bit of bother when playing Hull, never like Scunny though imo.

I'm still friends with one of their lads to this day and you're right we did have a bit of a love in with them for a short while

Lincoln are by far our oldest rivals as we've been playing them regularly since they were formed. A bit of a grudge match in the early years, apparently, but we've not played them a great deal over the past decades and I have to admit, I have always chuckled a bit more when Scunny or Hull lose games with more of a shrug when Lincoln do.

Always good to be in the same division as your local rivals I think as much better to be able to have the chance to beat them and Lord it over for the season than watch them struggle in a different division!

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I'm still friends with one of their lads to this day and you're right we did have a bit of a love in with them for a short while

Yeah was working with one of them a short while ago, Dean Collins, a rigger, if you remember him?

Being born in the mid 80’s and growing up in. The 90’s, I barely knew Lincoln City existed, nevermind that there was a rivalry. I guess the whole Humberside rather than Lincolnshire thing played a part in that too.

Like, for instance, our most successful ever manager in Alan Buckley went to manage them...did anyone bat an eye lid??

I was never bothered about Lincoln until very recently ,it was always the scunts, I moved to Newark 5yrs ago and for the 1st 3yrs only met 2 gimps and they were good lads who talked sense about football,  now fast forward 2 yrs and they are everywhere like rats, they've swapped there Man utd and Liverpool shirts for a couple of seasons,  watched Green street and have convinced themselves that St Danny of gimpsville will lead them to world domination. They have no sense off history(how could they as football only started for them in Jan 2016).Does make me chuckle when listening to there flannel and then they pay for there drinks using a Man utd wallet(true story),I think I used the term 2 club wan%er to end the debate.GTID

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Was there much animosity Swin?

No not really it was much less pronounced

Much less than there is with Lincoln today but then if you wanted to communicate with a Tigers fan in those days you had to a) write to him or b) smack him in the mouth when we played them

Plus of course there was rivalry through the fishing industry to add to the footy

It’s all about the era you were born in. If you were born in the 50’s or 60’s then Hull are considered our bitter rivals . After that it moves on to Scunny or Lincoln , it’s hard to shake off your original feelings. It’s Hull for me , full stop.

In my time the rivalry was with Hull City.
Soccer in Hull was second to rugby, consequently the Tigers went up and down in the leagues, not achieving the top spot until the money arrived.
But they did have an outstanding team in the sixties due to Wagstaff and Chilton.
In those days the beauty of playing Hull City away, was that special supporter's trains left Cleethorpes direct for Boothferry Park.
I remember going on the ferry to an away game where a rather large football supporter was sporting a Grimsby Town rosette on one lapel and a Hull City rosette on the other.
I always want all 3 of the Lincolnshire clubs to be in the Football League.
Come on Boston, make it 4 again.

Getting off the train at Boothferry park station on a Hull v Town matchday was a very exciting different feeling for a young lad, great atmosphere builder

Thought this was a Bogle thread, enjoyed reading the last 2 pages about past and present rivalry.

The difference for us with Hull compared to other places is simply that so many fishing families in Grimsby were intermarried with Hull families so violent rivalry was not common in the 50s or 60s unless you were a total idiot. Going to the football over there was quite often a family outing over the ferry with an afternoon’s shopping at Hammonds for the distaff branch. Until the Wagstaff/Chilton days the Hessle Road area that was the main fishing family area was rugby league. That effect has gone now of course with new generations.

Scunthorpe were non-league until 1950 so were not real rivals until after they swapped divisions with us in 1958 with the Barry Thomas era. Lincoln were always sort of on and off but only when Town has been in the lower divisions because Lincoln has not been at Championship or Div. 2 level since 1961 and has been relegated to non-league more times than any other club. So maybe a bit of a chip on the shoulder there?

It was always Hull,Scunny ,Lincoln in that order and though we and the Imps have been joined at the hip for over a decade nothings really changed it`s just a close away day.

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It was always Hull,Scunny ,Lincoln in that order and though we and the Imps have been joined at the hip for over a decade nothings really changed it`s just a close away day.

Might be that way for some your older lot, but come on Hull are nothing more than a potentially big cup game now (For both of us). Scunthorpe have also been separated from you for a while too.

I think we have played Hull twice at their new ground - Their old ground was a hovel, but we would still view it as a derby should we play them again.

Whilst some might disregard our rivalry, I was at the away game in 89, and that was a very lively affair and certainly the definition of bitter rivals. Especially when that pest scored the winner for you. I can't imagine many Hull fans - Certainly younger ones would view you as a rival anymore, the same as us.

Some of the stuff on here and other threads smacks of elitism, you increasingly sound like Liverpool fans, things move on, clubs, rivalries, I hope your supporters buy in to Jolley and keep us playing each other , hopefully in League 1, because at the moment despite your constant belief in Jolley, Season ticket sales your end don't sound like the fans are quite with him yet.

It's difficult to class Hull as rivals when we've only played 6 league games against them in the last 50 years.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

The difference for us with Hull compared to other places is simply that so many fishing families in Grimsby were intermarried with Hull families so violent rivalry was not common in the 50s or 60s unless you were a total idiot. Going to the football over there was quite often a family outing over the ferry with an afternoon’s shopping at Hammonds for the distaff branch. Until the Wagstaff/Chilton days the Hessle Road area that was the main fishing family area was rugby league. That effect has gone now of course with new generations.

Scunthorpe were non-league until 1950 so were not real rivals until after they swapped divisions with us in 1958 with the Barry Thomas era. Lincoln were always sort of on and off but only when Town has been in the lower divisions because Lincoln has not been at Championship or Div. 2 level since 1961 and has been relegated to non-league more times than any other club. So maybe a bit of a chip on the shoulder there?

Great post. I started watching Town in 1968 and cannot remember playing Hull ever until that great 79/80 season. Growing up our main rivals were Scunny (who we always seemed to beat) and Lincoln (who we never seemed to beat.)

Quoted from StaffsMariner

It's difficult to class Hull as rivals when we've only played 6 league games against them in the last 50 years.

Quoted from StaffsMariner

It's difficult to class Hull as rivals when we've only played 6 league games against them in the last 50 years.

Rival - .be or seem to be equal or comparable to, a person or thing competing with another for the same objective or for superiority in the same field of activity.

I regard Hull City as rivals, Lincoln and Scunthorpe being so inferior do not qualify.

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hopefully in League 1, because at the moment despite your constant belief in Jolley, Season ticket sales your end don't sound like the fans are quite with him yet.

Thats because we have pretty much had a generation of failure and relegation, aside from escaping non league, which believe me, non one over 30 considers that anything other than embarrassing for being there in the first place.

Add to the on field dross we have had to put up with we have also seen a huge decline off field with the boards attitude towards the average fan.

You guys have jumped very quickly on the success you have had and reaped it to the max, fair play on that , we however were told we were spoilt, told our money raising efforts were the worst thing to have happened and prices raised as we were back in the league ( despite our 100k gift to help with the promotion effort) etc etc.

3000 is around the figure we will shift eventually i would think, myself i will probably renew only because the on the day prices are set to go up and that is about as innovative as our marketing dept gets.....sell them they will come....no great initiatives, nothing to tempt new blood in, little to retain/ reward existing ST holders.

I imagine at your place there is a mix of returning supporters who had maybe drifted away for a couple of seasons and a whole new wave of people coming, including the young...who with a couple of exciting/successful seasons will become your future.... on the back of our promotion to the football league,  by the time we had announced ST prices will rise and put them on sale we had already announced the release of 3/4 of the squad including most of the fans favourites.

Isn't it strange that we get Lincoln fans coming on here nowadays? Didn't venture over here before January 2017 and certainly weren't interested in our season ticket sales when they were pulling in around 2000 home fans a game.

Quoted from mariner91

Isn't it strange that we get Lincoln fans coming on here nowadays? Didn't venture over here before January 2017 and certainly weren't interested in our season ticket sales when they were pulling in around 2000 home fans a game.

Do you not see the irony in your post, There has been numerous, and I mean a lot of threads on here about Lincoln. I quite like a few posters on here as they talk sense, but mentioning 2k fans is exactly the same as mentioning we now have 6k season ticket holders, and literally don't have enough seats. On a few of the message boards I look at there is plenty of gloating from Grimsby about their history and a bright new dawn under a fella who has managed 10 games.

It sounds like he is a breath of fresh for you and he seems to be doing things the right way, but if your fans don't buy in, he won't have the budget to work with.

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Thats because we have pretty much had a generation of failure and relegation, aside from escaping non league, which believe me, non one over 30 considers that anything other than embarrassing for being there in the first place.

Add to the on field dross we have had to put up with we have also seen a huge decline off field with the boards attitude towards the average fan.

You guys have jumped very quickly on the success you have had and reaped it to the max, fair play on that , we however were told we were spoilt, told our money raising efforts were the worst thing to have happened and prices raised as we were back in the league ( despite our 100k gift to help with the promotion effort) etc etc.

3000 is around the figure we will shift eventually i would think, myself i will probably renew only because the on the day prices are set to go up and that is about as innovative as our marketing dept gets.....sell them they will come....no great initiatives, nothing to tempt new blood in, little to retain/ reward existing ST holders.

I imagine at your place there is a mix of returning supporters who had maybe drifted away for a couple of seasons and a whole new wave of people coming, including the young...who with a couple of exciting/successful seasons will become your future.... on the back of our promotion to the football league,  by the time we had announced ST prices will rise and put them on sale we had already announced the release of 3/4 of the squad including most of the fans favourites.

I won't ague with that - I think a lot have returned, and certainly the family initiatives have been a huge driving force. Plus we have a very forward thinking chairman and chief executive, and they won't allow us to stagnate. We have also used the University very wisely, Lincoln is a different place now and the football club are catching up with it - It is probably the most successful period in our history.

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Isn't it strange that we get Lincoln fans coming on here nowadays? Didn't venture over here before January 2017 and certainly weren't interested in our season ticket sales when they were pulling in around 2000 home fans a game.

“I come on here when I get bored at work”


Online for 97 days in total. Where do you work to get bored enough to spend that long on a rivals forum?

Quoted from LH

“I come on here when I get bored at work”


Online for 97 days in total. Where do you work to get bored enough to spend that long on a rivals forum?

Your season ticket office.

Quoted from nealeardleyscrossing

Your season ticket office.

that was good that !

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Do you not see the irony in your post, There has been numerous, and I mean a lot of threads on here about Lincoln. I quite like a few posters on here as they talk sense, but mentioning 2k fans is exactly the same as mentioning we now have 6k season ticket holders, and literally don't have enough seats. On a few of the message boards I look at there is plenty of gloating from Grimsby about their history and a bright new dawn under a fella who has managed 10 games.

It sounds like he is a breath of fresh for you and he seems to be doing things the right way, but if your fans don't buy in, he won't have the budget to work with.

How is it ironic?  My point was that until recently you weren't interested in coming on here, your interest changed somewhat since you've had a successful period which is not entirely coincidental. I've never posted on a Lincoln forum because I'm not sad enough to do that, even at times when we've been far more successful than you e.g the last 50 years. Yes your club is extremely well managed now and kudos for that, I'm sure we're genuinely all very jealous and would love to have your board over ours. But you'd have a lot more credibility on here if you'd been posting throughout your bad years rather than, seemingly, just jumping on the bandwagon.

I'm sure you'll argue that you were one of the 400 who turned up at BP on NYD a few years back but in reality the vast majority of your fans deserted your club when you were shit and have only come back since there has been any success. Even then it took a cup run and a "giant killing" against Oldham before you had a home attendance over 4,000. Barely half the number of season tickets you now have could be arsed to turn up in the home end for the game at Sincil Bank in 2015, the last time we played there in the National League which is pretty pathetic really. Therefore, as far as I'm concerned, they're no better than people from Lincoln or Grimsby who support Premier League clubs.

I don't mind genuine Lincoln fans who stuck by the club through thick and thin gloating, that's football and they deserve the success after putting up with so many years of being utterly terrible. But the rest of them and their superior attitude towards us at the minute is completely laughable. Like I said the vast majority wouldn't have even turned up to watch us play each other at SB three seasons ago when we're supposedly "rivals" yet after two good years Lincoln are a huge club compared to us apparently. And let's be honest, if you're paying players £3K a week and only scrape into the play offs and then get spanked in them, is that really that successful? Saint Danny being the greatest the manager that ever lived can surely do better than that? In reality, both clubs are similar in size. Historically we've had quite a bit more success but not because of the size of the club, because we punched above our weight for many years which we are justifiably proud of. Whether we'll punch above our weight again or ever improve the infrastructure enough to take advantage of the potential fanbase we have remains to be seen. Under the current board, I'd say it's doubtful sadly.

And as far as I can see there's been two threads on here about Lincoln in the last week, this one and the one where we literally signed a player from you so that's hardly surprising is it?

Quoted from nealeardleyscrossing

It is probably the most successful period in our history.

If finishing 7th in the 4th tier is the most sucessful period in your history then i really do take my hat off to you sir.

I think a lot of Lincoln fans just have to remember that we are in the same league as each other. And we finished 11 places apart in the same league. The way some have been carrying on after we've signed Whitehouse is laughable.

Quoted from mariner91

How is it ironic?  My point was that until recently you weren't interested in coming on here, your interest changed somewhat since you've had a successful period which is not entirely coincidental. I've never posted on a Lincoln forum because I'm not sad enough to do that, even at times when we've been far more successful than you e.g the last 50 years. Yes your club is extremely well managed now and kudos for that, I'm sure we're genuinely all very jealous and would love to have your board over ours. But you'd have a lot more credibility on here if you'd been posting throughout your bad years rather than, seemingly, just jumping on the bandwagon.

I'm sure you'll argue that you were one of the 400 who turned up at BP on NYD a few years back but in reality the vast majority of your fans deserted your club when you were shit and have only come back since there has been any success. Even then it took a cup run and a "giant killing" against Oldham before you had a home attendance over 4,000. Barely half the number of season tickets you now have could be arsed to turn up in the home end for the game at Sincil Bank in 2015, the last time we played there in the National League which is pretty pathetic really. Therefore, as far as I'm concerned, they're no better than people from Lincoln or Grimsby who support Premier League clubs.

I don't mind genuine Lincoln fans who stuck by the club through thick and thin gloating, that's football and they deserve the success after putting up with so many years of being utterly terrible. But the rest of them and their superior attitude towards us at the minute is completely laughable. Like I said the vast majority wouldn't have even turned up to watch us play each other at SB three seasons ago when we're supposedly "rivals" yet after two good years Lincoln are a huge club compared to us apparently. And let's be honest, if you're paying players £3K a week and only scrape into the play offs and then get spanked in them, is that really that successful? Saint Danny being the greatest the manager that ever lived can surely do better than that? In reality, both clubs are similar in size. Historically we've had quite a bit more success but not because of the size of the club, because we punched above our weight for many years which we are justifiably proud of. Whether we'll punch above our weight again or ever improve the infrastructure enough to take advantage of the potential fanbase we have remains to be seen. Under the current board, I'd say it's doubtful sadly.

And as far as I can see there's been two threads on here about Lincoln in the last week, this one and the one where we literally signed a player from you so that's hardly surprising is it?

I don't think I have suggested once that we are a huge club, but you know what we are trying to be. I am not for 1 minute suggesting we will do a Burton Albion, Bournemouth, but I remember playing Bournemouth at their place, and then at Cardiff, so who knows. But having a very good new chairman will help. I would be interested to know, what is the most season tickets you have ever sold in say the last 20 years?

I think we have a small chance of moving forward at least to establishing ourselves as league 1 club, but time will tell. As for paying 3k for players, we had the smallest squad in the FL , that is a  fact. so if we chose quality of quantity so what - Do you get that?  So if you had 30 players at 1k a week and we had 20 payers at 1.5k - That was what we did,, it backfired, as we had injuries, it then meant playing squad players such as Elliot, Long etc which weakened us and we limped in to the Play offs after being 3 and 4th for some time. We deservedly lost to Exeter, who ironically we beat 3 weeks prior, and should have won the 1st leg bar the post and their very good keeper.

I expect us to be a bit stronger this year as I think we have more cash - not from loans, etc but from Season ticket sales.

Quoted from sam gy

If finishing 7th in the 4th tier is the most sucessful period in your history then i really do take my hat off to you sir.

I think a lot of Lincoln fans just have to remember that we are in the same league as each other. And we finished 11 places apart in the same league. The way some have been carrying on after we've signed Whitehouse is laughable.

Look I remember, by successful I mean - New training Academy (Never had 1), most season tickets , ever, new ground in the pipeline, and lots of other bits etc, not necessarily the team.

We've had this conversation before.

It all depends on when you first started going regularly. I saw my first game in 1972 but it wasn't until the late 70's/early 80's that I started going regularly.

For me our rivals were the 2 Sheffield clubs, Barnsley and to a lesser extent Leeds, when we were both in the same division for a few seasons.

I always looked upon Lincoln as an annoying little brother really and I actually went to watch them a couple of times when they were in non-league the first time. This was mainly to see my boyhood heroes Nigel Batch and Bobby Cumming really but I can say that if we didn't have a football team in Grimsby then I'd probably support Lincoln, even though Hull and Scunny are closer.

Never, ever saw a rivalry with Lincoln or Scunny until recently and we've hardly ever played Hull in my lifetime so there's no real rivalry been able to build up there really.

Quoted from nealeardleyscrossing

Your season ticket office.

Very quick to be fair. Good banter.

Quoted from nealeardleyscrossing

Look I remember, by successful I mean - New training Academy (Never had 1), most season tickets , ever, new ground in the pipeline, and lots of other bits etc, not necessarily the team.

Yep its all looking rosey being a GIMP.  However just need to sort out your football cos the last time i went i had neck ache. 😂

Quoted from Meza

Yep its all looking rosey being a GIMP.  However just need to sort out your football cos the last time i went i had neck ache. 😂

I think you're right and DC has already started addressing this I think with our two recruits so far.- Both are footballers. I think fans are split on Rhead - I personally think he was what we needed in the NL, and he was good for us. But some of his antics and his behaviour on the pitch is not what I want to see. I think DC has found it hard to recruit the striker he would like and I think this frustrates him (We have missed out on quite a few)

Most of our budget will go on forwards this summer - Green is fine , but we need someone with him. This won't in my opinion be Rhead.
However, If I were a NL manager I would be on the blower trying to get Rhead in my team.

I'm not sure that many Non-League clubs have that kind of budget for pies.

Quoted from Les Brechin

We've had this conversation before.

It all depends on when you first started going regularly. I saw my first game in 1972 but it wasn't until the late 70's/early 80's that I started going regularly.

For me our rivals were the 2 Sheffield clubs, Barnsley and to a lesser extent Leeds, when we were both in the same division for a few seasons.

I always looked upon Lincoln as an annoying little brother really and I actually went to watch them a couple of times when they were in non-league the first time. This was mainly to see my boyhood heroes Nigel Batch and Bobby Cumming really but I can say that if we didn't have a football team in Grimsby then I'd probably support Lincoln, even though Hull and Scunny are closer.

Never, ever saw a rivalry with Lincoln or Scunny until recently and we've hardly ever played Hull in my lifetime so there's no real rivalry been able to build up there really.

Hit the nail on the head mate, I was born in the mid 80’s so all
I remember was First Division football bar 97/98 in until we went down in 2003 which was my last year at school. It was all Sheffield Wednesday and Barnsley for me but the old man would rattle on about Scunny and Hull. Although at that time both of them (and Lincoln) were two leagues below us. I even went to a hanful of Lincoln games between 99/00 and 03/04 including their Div 3 play off final defeat against Bournemouth in Cardiff. Living in Gainsborough, it was like going on Trinity for me, just another opportunity to watch football. When went down in 2004 to League Two it was a chance to play Scunny again so that was our main focus, but also all of a sudden Lincoln had bumped us up to main rivals and were “Codhead this, Codhead that”, I think they were like Notts County or Mansfield to us, local but not local enough to be a real rival. I’d be naive to say they aren’t a rival now but as I touched on before they aren’t viewed as our number 1 or maybe even number 2 by us. I actually don’t mind them that much, but I’ve been corrected by them a few times saying “ yes you do you hate us as much as we hate you”

No idea who else they view as rivals ? Mansfield, Peterborough, Notts County ? No idea

Quoted from barralad

Great post. I started watching Town in 1968 and cannot remember playing Hull ever until that great 79/80 season. Growing up our main rivals were Scunny (who we always seemed to beat) and Lincoln (who we never seemed to beat.)

One of my fairly early games in the Boys Paddock was August 1958 and we beat Lincoln 4-2. Strange fixture reversal, the return game was only a week or so later and was 4-4 at Lincoln, Rafferty scored all 4 which is why it is etched on the memory.   Then we played them in the promotion season of 1961/2 and won 4-1 at home Cliff Portwood hat trick and the only penalty I can remember Scott missing, and drew away I think.

But there was no aggro then, in fact even though we were so close there were very few away supporters.

Quoted from nealeardleyscrossing

Your season ticket office.

Can remember beating them 4-2 the year they got promoted think it was 1966 towards end of season.

Quoted from mariner91

Isn't it strange that we get Lincoln fans coming on here nowadays? Didn't venture over here before January 2017 and certainly weren't interested in our season ticket sales when they were pulling in around 2000 home fans a game.

Been a ST holder at SB for about the last 15 years so I think I have seen my fair share of dross. Six seasons not finishing above halfway in the NL, I don't think many clubs in our position would get much better gates than 2000 home fans tbh.

As I said before I was on the Fishy in the time we were relegated to that division. I haven't just sprang up becaus we have had a modicum of success for once, I was here when the excrement was really hitting the fan.

Do you want a medal?

The Lincoln fans on this thread make some good points. When they're talking about the positives down the A46 it's grown into much much more than "getting behind Cowley." When Cowley leaves eventually, they'll be insulated to a certain degree. whereas what have we got over here other than Project Jolley? Absolutely nothing. We need so much more going on in the background. Let's not forget that our board have totally run out of ideas for the medium and long term and this needs addressing. Riding along short term on the Jolley bandwagon is nowhere near good enough as the custodians of GTFC. The board need to be looking to build something much more sustainable and if they don't know how to do it, they need to look at bringing bodies in who can offer much more than they do. Long term planning cannot be put on hold because we may have got a decent manager and a bit of hope. Jolley isn't going to be here forever. When he leaves.. then what?

I can see LCFC and GTFC being very different clubs in stature in ten years time and sadly we'll be the ones looking enviously down the A46..

Quoted from Bigdog

The Lincoln fans on this thread make some good points. When they're talking about the positives down the A46 it's grown into much much more than "getting behind Cowley." When Cowley leaves eventually, they'll be insulated to a certain degree. whereas what have we got over here other than Project Jolley? Absolutely nothing. We need so much more going on in the background. Let's not forget that our board have totally run out of ideas for the medium and long term and this needs addressing. Riding along short term on the Jolley bandwagon is nowhere near good enough as the custodians of GTFC. The board need to be looking to build something much more sustainable and if they don't know how to do it, they need to look at bringing bodies in who can offer much more than they do. Long term planning cannot be put on hold because we may have got a decent manager and a bit of hope. Jolley isn't going to be here forever. When he leaves.. then what?

I can see LCFC and GTFC being very different clubs in stature in ten years time and sadly we'll be the ones looking enviously down the A46..

Agreed - Lincoln could be like Norwich are in Norfolk or Ipswich in Suffolk ie a fanbase not just in the urban area of the club but in the whole county, and we would just have a fanbase in the urban area of Gy and Clee with its ageing shrinking population. Unless we get a new stadium and the PR department of GTFC gets out and promotes the club from Barton to Rasen to Mablethorpe that is, then we might compete...

Quoted from nealeardleyscrossing

I think you're right and DC has already started addressing this I think with our two recruits so far.- Both are footballers. I think fans are split on Rhead - I personally think he was what we needed in the NL, and he was good for us. But some of his antics and his behaviour on the pitch is not what I want to see. I think DC has found it hard to recruit the striker he would like and I think this frustrates him (We have missed out on quite a few)

Most of our budget will go on forwards this summer - Green is fine , but we need someone with him. This won't in my opinion be Rhead.
However, If I were a NL manager I would be on the blower trying to get Rhead in my team.

If I was a WWF agent I would be trying to get Rhead to change sports!!

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

One of my fairly early games in the Boys Paddock was August 1958 and we beat Lincoln 4-2. Strange fixture reversal, the return game was only a week or so later and was 4-4 at Lincoln, Rafferty scored all 4 which is why it is etched on the memory.   Then we played them in the promotion season of 1961/2 and won 4-1 at home Cliff Portwood hat trick and the only penalty I can remember Scott missing, and drew away I think.

But there was no aggro then, in fact even though we were so close there were very few away supporters.

Pretty much business as usual then. Bar last season.  

Lincoln fans through history:
2017-....: Off to Grimsby? Yeah, we're gonna smash the Cods.
2011-2016: Going to Grimsby? Nah, too much dogshit.
1906-1976: Going to Grimsby? Nah, smells of fish?
1846-1906: Going to Grimsby? Nah, gaffer won't let me have the day off.
1066-1846: Going to Grimsby? Nah, waiting for the railways to arrive.
786-1066: Going to Grimsby? Nah, too many Vikings.

Scunny in for bogle . Told today  

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

One of my fairly early games in the Boys Paddock was August 1958 and we beat Lincoln 4-2. Strange fixture reversal, the return game was only a week or so later and was 4-4 at Lincoln, Rafferty scored all 4 which is why it is etched on the memory.   Then we played them in the promotion season of 1961/2 and won 4-1 at home Cliff Portwood hat trick and the only penalty I can remember Scott missing, and drew away I think.

But there was no aggro then, in fact even though we were so close there were very few away supporters.

That was the day I was born. My Dad was gutted that he missed the game!

What date ron, my mrs was born that month

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

One of my fairly early games in the Boys Paddock was August 1958 and we beat Lincoln 4-2. Strange fixture reversal, the return game was only a week or so later and was 4-4 at Lincoln, Rafferty scored all 4 which is why it is etched on the memory.   Then we played them in the promotion season of 1961/2 and won 4-1 at home Cliff Portwood hat trick and the only penalty I can remember Scott missing, and drew away I think.

But there was no aggro then, in fact even though we were so close there were very few away supporters.

I remember these days well.  I was 12 years old and used to go with my Dad as we live In Barton upon Humber.  I remember Jimmy Fell on the left wing, Johnny Scott on the right wing, and of course the great Ron Rafferty up front.  For some reason, my Dad hated Mike Cullen, and gave him stick the whole match!  Happy days home and away with my Dad, who sadly was killed in a works accident  when I was 18.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Pretty much business as usual then. Bar last season.  

Lincoln fans through history:
2017-....: Off to Grimsby? Yeah, we're gonna smash the Cods.
2011-2016: Going to Grimsby? Nah, too much dogshit.
1906-1976: Going to Grimsby? Nah, smells of fish?
1846-1906: Going to Grimsby? Nah, gaffer won't let me have the day off.
1066-1846: Going to Grimsby? Nah, waiting for the railways to arrive.
786-1066: Going to Grimsby? Nah, too many Vikings.

One of the best ever posts I’ve ever seen on the fishy

Quoted from 123614

I remember these days well.  I was 12 years old and used to go with my Dad as we live In Barton upon Humber.  I remember Jimmy Fell on the left wing, Johnny Scott on the right wing, and of course the great Ron Rafferty up front.  For some reason, my Dad hated Mike Cullen, and gave him stick the whole match!  Happy days home and away with my Dad, who sadly was killed in a works accident  when I was 18.

Cullen used to get lots of stick from various sections of the crowd in those days. He was only a Scotland international  at a time when they were a decent side.

I remember Cullen kicking a blokes ankles from the back and when he retaliated fell on the floor shouting for the ref. He was always up the ref's bottom similar to Rooney,but still a great player