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WOZOFGRIMSBY
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Shrewsbury set to put 500 'safe rail seats'

So, what's that all about? And how come we can't?

https://www.shropshirestar.com.....omery-waters-meadow/


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Guessing it's because we have to have an all seater stadium, whereas they don't (yet)?  


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Yeah because the law was written so that any club at the time the legislation was passed who were playing at PL or Champ level had to convert to all seater. A badly written law that ignored that football is a meritocracy that can change drastically in the space of two years.
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Am I right in thinking that Stockport wouldn't be allowed to have standing in the Conference North? Bonkers.


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Surely our ground can’t be considered ‘all-seater’ with those god-awful open, empty corners?! Rail seats should be allowed in all 3 of those.
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I'd love to see the new ground built on a similar mold to BP, just without the posts and not made out of wood, but with a corner and a side connected, one big double tiered stand down the other side etc and I'd like to see the equivalent of the Ponny end being an all safe standing area, be great to get all the atmosphere created at one end of the ground rather than small, very weak smatterings all over the place.


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Surely our ground can’t be considered ‘all-seater’ with those god-awful open, empty corners?! Rail seats should be allowed in all 3 of those.


We wouldn’t even be able to have a rail seating area in a new, purpose-built stafoum as the law applies to the clubs (not grounds) who were in the top two divisions at the time.

I may be right in thinking that we could go out of business and come back as a different legal entity whilst still playing at BP (a la Rangers or Hereford), and then we would be allowed rail seating.

It’s insane, but the government don’t care a jot.
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This is due to be debated in parliament soon, the safe standing petition having reached 100,000 signatures.

If you care about this, please do email your MP to ask them to support trials and pilot schemes, not so it can be judged as success or failure, but so everyone can work out how it can be best made to work.

There are supporters and detractors on both sides.  Tracey Crouch, the Sports Minister, is the major block at the moment.  If you're emailing a Tory MP, maybe stress the freedom-of-choice aspect and point out that the Welsh Conservatives have already put support for safe standing in their manifesto.  If you have a Labour MP, suggest it as another way to outflank "out of touch Tories".
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Oh here we go lol. "I want things to be like when I was a thug in the 60's, I want people to surge forward in massive crowds and crush people when a goal is scored so it's more dangerous.....I don't want to stand though I want to sit with my flask and watch it to reminisce over my youth."

It's okay you can use your decades old insults on me and tell me to give my head a wobble  . Who even says that anymore?


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Oh here we go lol. "I want things to be like when I was a thug in the 60's, I want people to surge forward in massive crowds and crush people when a goal is scored so it's more dangerous.....I don't want to stand though I want to sit with my flask and watch it to reminisce over my youth."


I would be absolutely 100% against that and am very pleased that the only proposals being looked at are for rail seating, where each supporter gets their own barrier, their own numbered space and there is excellent provision for disabled supporters.  No-one wants to go back to crowd surges, and we hope that proper pilot schemes can provide a basis to develop safe rail seating/standing for everyone who wants to have the choice.  In my own opinion, all clubs should also be mandated to offer seats to away fans as I think it's unacceptable to sell only standing tickets to away fans and deny supporters the choice of sitting.
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