Luke Summerfield Awards.

I have to say I'm really happy that Summerfield picked up a couple of awards he deserved the credit for a great performance through out the season if it wasn't for Mckeown possible leaving he might have won the main prize.

I was very pleased to see him go from fans villain who at the start of the season i wanted him to leave on mutual termination, must have to tip my hat to Summerfield on a very solid hard working 2nd season.

Definitely the most improved player compared to his first season with us. He's been one of our most consistent this season when he was one of the least last season.

Not technically good enough I’m afraid much improved but if he’s your main man in midfield next year expect more of the same. The lower end of the table is were he’s familiar with not by chance, we simply need better. Having said that unlike some he worked his socks off most games and looked really committed to the cause that I can’t fault.

If you have a decent intelligent player alongside him I can't see why he can't be part of a team at the top end of league 2. He grafts for 90 minutes and isn't that bad at distributing.

Agree, I also felt he was one of the few players to try and pass the ball and have an impact on the game, it often didn't work but at least he tried.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Not technically good enough I’m afraid much improved but if he’s your main man in midfield next year expect more of the same. The lower end of the table is were he’s familiar with not by chance, we simply need better. Having said that unlike some he worked his socks off most games and looked really committed to the cause that I can’t fault.

Strange comment. He was outstanding against Notts County who were 4th in the table when they played us and has been consistently our stand-out outfield player all season.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Strange comment. He was outstanding against Notts County who were 4th in the table when they played us and has been consistently our stand-out outfield player all season.

Hes  improved definitely but good enough to be in a promotion winning midfield I have my doubts and as for notts county is that the same notts county who chesterfield tore apart in a local derby only a couple of weeks earlier a very up and down team .

I wouldn't mind him staying.
Could get even better working with MJ

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Hes  improved definitely but good enough to be in a promotion winning midfield I have my doubts and as for notts county is that the same notts county who chesterfield tore apart in a local derby only a couple of weeks earlier a very up and down team .

You will have 20 odd players in a squad and Summerfield based on last Season is easily worthy of a place.As others have said a couple of quality player`s in that area and him holding sorted.Now getting the quality is a different matter we have struggled in CM most Seasons other than Disley/Nolan to get a quality pairing.

I've seen the comment "if he had someone alongside him" on a lot of threads. How about we sign players that don't need babysitting by another player to make up for their deficiencies? The knock on effect is we don't get the best of the other player either. We need every player to do their own jobs to get the best results we can..

Summers and Collins deserve another year in the squad, but their ultimate effectiveness as first choice starters? Not for me. If we are going to progress we'll need better and different in those positions. We conceded plenty and we didn't create much over a season and the reasons for that can't be laid totally at Slade's door and be forgotten about..

Quoted from Bigdog

I've seen the comment "if he had someone alongside him" on a lot of threads. How about we sign players that don't need babysitting by another player to make up for their deficiencies? The knock on effect is we don't get the best of the other player either. We need every player to do their own jobs to get the best results we can..

Summers and Collins deserve another year in the squad, but their ultimate effectiveness as first choice starters? Not for me. If we are going to progress we'll need better and different in those positions. We conceded plenty and we didn't create much over a season and the reasons for that can't be laid totally at Slade's door and be forgotten about..

My exact thoughts on it

We're a League 2 club. If you can find a box-to-box, athletic, ball-winning, creative, goalscoring central midfielder who screens the back 4 well then let's bring him in. Otherwise we might have to sign players with strengths that compliment each other - it's not a case of babysitting.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

We're a League 2 club. If you can find a box-to-box, athletic, ball-winning, creative, goalscoring central midfielder who screens the back 4 well then let's bring him in. Otherwise we might have to sign players with strengths that compliment each other - it's not a case of babysitting.

Mich Rose??.....just saying..

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

We're a League 2 club. If you can find a box-to-box, athletic, ball-winning, creative, goalscoring central midfielder who screens the back 4 well then let's bring him in. Otherwise we might have to sign players with strengths that compliment each other - it's not a case of babysitting.

We've already got him

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Mich Rose??.....just saying..

Really?

flipping hell it's a miracle we didn't romp to the title with our range of complete central midfielders!

I've got a feeling that now Rose seems fitter and more confident under Jolley, MJ will be more inclined to try and find a partner for him rather than a partner for Summers. For all of his efforts, Summers gives me the feeling that the whole team lacks something when he's the main man. Sometimes it's not the player himself, it's how he affects the DNA of the team..

Quoted from Bigdog

I've seen the comment "if he had someone alongside him" on a lot of threads. How about we sign players that don't need babysitting by another player to make up for their deficiencies? The knock on effect is we don't get the best of the other player either. We need every player to do their own jobs to get the best results we can..

Summers and Collins deserve another year in the squad, but their ultimate effectiveness as first choice starters? Not for me. If we are going to progress we'll need better and different in those positions. We conceded plenty and we didn't create much over a season and the reasons for that can't be laid totally at Slade's door and be forgotten about..

Surely it's about balance rather than babysitting?

Summerfield wasn't there to create, he wasn't there to unlock a defence.  His role was to break up play and redistribute, something I think he did really well all season.  It's not his fault that throughout the season he was paired with players who offered no alternative to him.

If Jolley manages to find a creative influence to put into the midfield, it will need the balance of someone who is going to cover their forward runs, cover the gaps created and make sure the extra attacking option doesn't result in the back four getting overrun.  We all like seeing full-backs going forward and as the season went on (especially with Hall-Johnson and Fox) we started to see more of it, it was Summerfield who covered them to allow that to happen.

Rose has taken all the plaudits in recent weeks and in the eyes of a lot of people has transformed into Steven Gerrard as this swashbuckling midfielder who drives from box-to-box.  He's still not a patch on Summerfield and whilst I'm thankful for his goals, I would much rather Summerfield had the extra year left on his contract than Rose.

A stick that's used to beat Summerfield a lot is that he's always part of a struggling side.  Flipping that coin around, the much heralded James McKeown has failed to achieve a top half finish in the Football League in his whole career, shall we judge him on that? No, because it's out of his control to a very large extent.  He can't control the players he plays with.

Summerfield is a very good League Two midfielder who, in my opinion, would be a perfect foil for a more creative minded attacking partner.  The fact we never saw him and Jamey Osborne as a pairing is a real shame.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Not technically good enough I’m afraid much improved but if he’s your main man in midfield next year expect more of the same. The lower end of the table is were he’s familiar with not by chance, we simply need better. Having said that unlike some he worked his socks off most games and looked really committed to the cause that I can’t fault.

Hi Marcus, why are you posting as Dapperz?

To get to the top of the league, which is the aim, you need at least one midfielder of the quality of a Luke Berry at Luton, or a Sean McConville at Accy. I suspect that Rose may now be a starter for next season, so is Summers alongside him the right player to create and score goals? His stats this season and last suggest otherwise, although he may fare better in a better side.

Summerfield has been excellent, I’ll be very disappointed if he’s not with us next season.

Quoted from Bigdog

I've seen the comment "if he had someone alongside him" on a lot of threads. How about we sign players that don't need babysitting by another player to make up for their deficiencies? The knock on effect is we don't get the best of the other player either. We need every player to do their own jobs to get the best results we can..

Summers and Collins deserve another year in the squad, but their ultimate effectiveness as first choice starters? Not for me. If we are going to progress we'll need better and different in those positions. We conceded plenty and we didn't create much over a season and the reasons for that can't be laid totally at Slade's door and be forgotten about..

Football has always been about partnerships for me. Central defenders that compliment one another, full backs and wide midfielders and strikers work better in a partnership.
Having sad that Summerfield is certainly worth another deal. His work rate is infectious  and by and large is passing is decent despite the occasional blooper which often gets to overshadow his overall game

All depends about systems but I would think most Town fans would see LS being the best of our holding midfielders and in LG 2 terms he was on a par with most. I would have been disappointed if I where LS with my goal return for mins played but that`s not really is role in the side is it?

Quoted from Cloudy

Football has always been about partnerships for me. Central defenders that compliment one another, full backs and wide midfielders and strikers work better in a partnership.
Having sad that Summerfield is certainly worth another deal. His work rate is infectious  and by and large is passing is decent despite the occasional blooper which often gets to overshadow his overall game

Partnerships is an outmoded British concept. If you look at the best teams that have played this game - Brazil 1970, Holland's 'total football' which followed, Spain's dominance a few years ago, the title winning teams of Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City - none of them relied heavily on so-called 'partnerships' as it was the concept of the whole team interacting and interchanging with one another.

I get the feeling that Michael Jolley will want a more flexible approach from his team next season rather than rely on any outdated approach such as 'partnerships'.

Quoted from A Brace Of Tees

Partnerships is an outmoded British concept. If you look at the best teams that have played this game - Brazil 1970, Holland's 'total football' which followed, Spain's dominance a few years ago, the title winning teams of Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City - none of them relied heavily on so-called 'partnerships' as it was the concept of the whole team interacting and interchanging with one another.

I get the feeling that Michael Jolley will want a more flexible approach from his team next season rather than rely on any outdated approach such as 'partnerships'.

Couldn't have put it better myself. Winning teams have a more cohesive unit with interchangeable players rather than a mish-mash of players with compensating attributes..

For a team generally lacking in pace and athleticism last season, Summerfield's ability to get around the pitch, making challenges and generally winning the ball was a real bonus and we missed him when he was out injured. His passing was much improved from last season and he made few errors across the course of the year. Less said about his shooting the better, however! I'd certainly give him at least 1 more year and possibly 2. He's only 30 so ought to be more than physically capable of keeping up his workrate for the next couple of years. A goal or two would be nice.

With the resurgence of Rose over the past month (not to mention the discovery of his long throw which makes a big difference), it is going to be tough to drop either of them. I do wonder if they are perhaps better suited to a midfield 3, however? A lot depends on what sort of wide players we have available at the start of next season. Hard-running, hard-working wingers could make a midfield pairing workable though it would be nice to have Clifton playing as well to see how he can develop into a central midfield role. Perhaps Summerfield sitting behind a Rose/Clifton midfield pairing if we try playing 3 in the middle?

Obviously, if better players are signed, any of them would have to make way.

Quoted from A Brace Of Tees

Partnerships is an outmoded British concept. If you look at the best teams that have played this game - Brazil 1970, Holland's 'total football' which followed, Spain's dominance a few years ago, the title winning teams of Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City - none of them relied heavily on so-called 'partnerships' as it was the concept of the whole team interacting and interchanging with one another.

I get the feeling that Michael Jolley will want a more flexible approach from his team next season rather than rely on any outdated approach such as 'partnerships'.

Fine at the levels you quote but this is 4th tier English football when the skills level are not at those of Brazil, Spain, Man City etc.

Successful teams at this level are well organised, do the basics well and above all play as a team. You are not going to get players with the skill base required to win the World Cup. A sprinkling of flair yes but if you think players at this level are going to play interchangeable sexy football you are living in dreamland. IMO of course

The player alongside him is not meant to make up deficiencies more to compliment his industriousness .

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Hes  improved definitely but good enough to be in a promotion winning midfield I have my doubts and as for notts county is that the same notts county who chesterfield tore apart in a local derby only a couple of weeks earlier a very up and down team .

Say what you want about Notts County, but the fact of the matter is that they are a play off side, whether you think they're any good or not. They are where we want to be.

Just goes to show that League 2 isn't full of amazing teams and if you can get a decent run together you can be in and amongst it.

I think Summers has been the most consistent player this season - and we definitely missed him when injured. He's got energy, passion and can pick a pass. Gotta be worth another deal.

Quoted from A Brace Of Tees

Partnerships is an outmoded British concept. If you look at the best teams that have played this game - Brazil 1970, Holland's 'total football' which followed, Spain's dominance a few years ago, the title winning teams of Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City - none of them relied heavily on so-called 'partnerships' as it was the concept of the whole team interacting and interchanging with one another.

I get the feeling that Michael Jolley will want a more flexible approach from his team next season rather than rely on any outdated approach such as 'partnerships'.

Of the four English teams you've listed, all have benefited from having a player who did the dirty work or have since suffered in their absence.  The Arsenal Invincible team had Gilberto, Man Utd have had a massive upsurge in results this season since bringing in Matic, Chelsea practically transformed themselves from a mid-table side to title winners by signing Kante (prior to that Makelele was key to their title successes in the early Mourinho years), Man City this season wouldn't be the same without Fernandinho.

At this level, you're simply not going to get two midfielders who can do everything.  If you're lucky enough to get one who can do a bit of everything, you're going to want to concentrate his efforts on further upfield.  The most likely scenario is that you get a guy who can create/score but isn't as hard working or effective at the dirty side of the game, so you compliment him with someone who can do that role.  In our case and in my opinion, Summerfield would be far, far more effective than Rose.

Rose has a couple of good games and scores a couple of goals and suddenly everyone loves him. Did everyone forget that he was pretty rubbish for much of the season? It doesn't feel like long ago that the same faces praising him were calling for him to never pull on the black and white stripes again.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Not technically good enough I’m afraid much improved but if he’s your main man in midfield next year expect more of the same. The lower end of the table is were he’s familiar with not by chance, we simply need better. Having said that unlike some he worked his socks off most games and looked really committed to the cause that I can’t fault.

With you there Dapperz....while it seems harsh it is realistic....could he be utilised by Jolley in a different squad with additional quality ? Maybe,  as one thing for certain he has a fantastic engine and his in game fitness levels have been outstanding....him Rose and Woolford in the centre has given us a slightly better dynamic in the middle but we would need a better option than Woolford in there if we were to use Summerfield as a disruptor i think.

Credit to him though as from a dead man walking to multi player of the year is some turnaround.

Summerfield deserves praise.  

Jolley got the players and the team playing a lot better;  good enough to finish the season on top form and stay up.  A lot of the improvement happened when Summerfield came back in the midfield after injury. He worked his socks off, driving the team on with strong leadership and leading by example.  

Summerfield has been much improved for most of the season compared to last. Not quite a Jones the Stick transformation, but improved.

We improved at the end of the season when he came back in from injury. Well worth a new contract, brave, hard working. Lacks confidence in front of goal as 2 good headed chances went begging at the end of the season . Huge credit and I remember Lincoln at home where we were poor and he worked his guts out to compete for us. Well done Luke and will be really pleased to see you in next year utm

Well deserved awards for Summerfield last night IMO.

He got my vote for POTY because, whilst McKeown was excellent in the last 10 games, Summerfield showed consistency throughout the season for me.

Both worthy of taking home trophies so well done to them both.

Quoted from Zmariner

We improved at the end of the season when he came back in from injury. Well worth a new contract, brave, hard working. Lacks confidence in front of goal as 2 good headed chances went begging at the end of the season . Huge credit and I remember Lincoln at home where we were poor and he worked his guts out to compete for us. Well done Luke and will be really pleased to see you in next year utm

I heard at the POY awards that he has been offered a reduced contract.

Quoted from Zmariner

We improved at the end of the season when he came back in from injury. Well worth a new contract, brave, hard working. Lacks confidence in front of goal as 2 good headed chances went begging at the end of the season . Huge credit and I remember Lincoln at home where we were poor and he worked his guts out to compete for us. Well done Luke and will be really pleased to see you in next year utm

This,    ten others with the same attitude and some skill would see us in Europe

Well done Luke, but for understandably sentiment, would have been POY

Summerfield's work rate is phenomenal he has been a bit unlucky with shots saved etc but he still can deliver a cracking corner or free kick if he had a John Nolan type player alongside him who knows certainly Woolford seems to play better in midfield. Summerfield was starting to play well with Dembele looking to feed the ball to him. Unfortunately, Dembele's form/confidence dipped quite a bit but could be something to build on if they both stay.

Quoted from Kris2

Rose has a couple of good games and scores a couple of goals and suddenly everyone loves him. Did everyone forget that he was pretty rubbish for much of the season? It doesn't feel like long ago that the same faces praising him were calling for him to never pull on the black and white stripes again.

That has been the case with many not just Rose. Suddenly Hooper is a star who is incredibly talented but just looked shite because of Slade, Summerfield is the greatest and Woolford is looking good.

The only poor buggers persistently still being slagged off are Kelly and Dixon

Fickle lot aren't we

Quoted from Garth

This,    ten others with the same attitude and some skill would see us in Europe

Well done Luke, but for understandably sentiment, would have been POY

Erm, who would score our goals?

Quoted from Ipswin

That has been the case with many not just Rose. Suddenly Hooper is a star who is incredibly talented but just looked shite because of Slade, Summerfield is the greatest and Woolford is looking good.

The only poor buggers persistently still being slagged off are Kelly and Dixon

Fickle lot aren't we

You are too modest Swin, should have included yourself in that list!

Quoted from Ipswin

That has been the case with many not just Rose. Suddenly Hooper is a star who is incredibly talented but just looked shite because of Slade, Summerfield is the greatest and Woolford is looking good.

The only poor buggers persistently still being slagged off are Kelly and Dixon

Fickle lot aren't we

And JF!

He was our best player by a distance . He did the hard graft last year but let himself down with sloppy distribution , something he's corrected this year . It's no fluke that our terrible run coincided with when he was carrying/out through injury . Rose has looked twice the player this last month since MJ arrived but previous to this was unfit and carried through games by Luke.