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Cod Cheeks
May 7, 2018, 8:53pm
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Could this statement be a watershed moment?

JF realises he can't run the club like a fish factory
He doesn't surround himself with cronies and yes men
He understands the value of great support
Success can only happen when everyone pulls in the same direction
He backs MJ financially and early in the summer

We learn more from mistakes and losses so we ALL should be much wiser and stronger for next season.

I for one, am optimistic  for 18/19 and missing it already

And as for the altercation, I think most of us would have cracked well before now!
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No. Did you read it and see his FGR moment? Both suggest no lessons have been learned.
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If we're talking about our non-Chairman, this should be brief.


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
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No. Did you read it and see his FGR moment? Both suggest no lessons have been learned.


Yes, I read it and like most statements, you can pick out the positives or the negatives. That's down to us.

As much as I have hated this season albeit the last 6 weeks, I want to draw inspiration from anywhere I can.

The fact he just won't walk away and leave us at the edge of an ibis is a bonus for me.

Where are the takers?
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It's not a binary thing. Some lessons have been learned but not as many as could have been. We all learn from our experiences  


'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.  
~ Alfred Lord Tennyson

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The fact he just won't walk away and leave us at the edge of an ibis is a bonus for me.

Where are the takers?


This is one of the reasons he still feels he can cling to his power, by making enough people believe we need him.  We don't, it's that simple.  The only reason the club is in the position it is at present is because it is run in a shoddy manner.

Fenty hasn't needed to put any money into the club for a few years now, has managed to take money out of the club (which I don't object to as he put it in to start with) and we've still comfortably kept our heads above water....despite how badly run we are.  Imagine if we were smart enough to set appropriate budgets, stick to them and then try and maximise any profits with long-term thinking rather than just burying our heads in the sand and hoping?

For a successful businessman I find it worrying that Fenty can't grasp and indeed install some very basic principles to running the football club.

1) Work out a very conservative budget for the year based on ticket and merchandise sales, don't include cup runs or any other 'footballing fortune'.  Factor in any additional costs such as ground upkeep (numbers that will be readily available through previous years finances).  Even top slice a percentage off that budget if you want to be even more conservative.  
2) Stick to that budget.  Do not deviate from it.  
3) Use any profits appropriately as you see fit, put a percentage in the bank as a rainy day fund and reinvest the rest on either the development of the youth set-up, players from a lower level who have the potential to improve and be sold on for a significant profit or as a boost to next years budget/transfer kitty.
4) Repeat year-on-year.


Instead we appear to have:

1) Set a budget that appears to be very low, despite generating one of the top-10 highest gates in the league.
2) Show a lack of long-term thinking by signing players the wrong side of 30 who offer no sell-on value.
3) Panic and either chuck money (above the budget) at loan players who may/may not be of any benefit to the now over-inflated squad and/or sack the manager which then results in having to agree a settlement.
4) Repeat year-on-year.

Am I supposed to be grateful that Fenty is continuing to hold the fort?

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Yes, I read it and like most statements, you can pick out the positives or the negatives. That's down to us.

As much as I have hated this season albeit the last 6 weeks, I want to draw inspiration from anywhere I can.

The fact he just won't walk away and leave us at the edge of an ibis is a bonus for me.

Where are the takers?


There are no takers because he wants his loans back, which he has incurred due to his rank bad management. You cannot expect to get your money back for 15 or so years of failure, and quite rightly nobody will approach him because of the loans. His oft repeated mantra of "benign loans" only means whilst he has full and total control.

Our only hope is that we get footballing fortune, make a profit and he uses that to pay himself off.
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Yes, I read it and like most statements, you can pick out the positives or the negatives. That's down to us.

As much as I have hated this season albeit the last 6 weeks, I want to draw inspiration from anywhere I can.

The fact he just won't walk away and leave us at the edge of an ibis is a bonus for me.

Where are the takers?


People would be interested in taking the club on if it was offered without the loans. People have been interested in the past and have seen that people with money cannot work with the current board.  

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People would be interested in taking the club on if it was offered without the loans. People have been interested in the past and have seen that people with money cannot work with the current board.  



Who are "people " and if they're out there, why aren't they coming forward and saying as much?
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Who are "people " and if they're out there, why aren't they coming forward and saying as much?


Yeah, it’s not as if any businessman would invest 1 million before walking away. So I guess what we need is a lottery winner to invest.

Oh, hang on ........

And if anyone is prepared to buy my house for not only the market value, but also pay for all the bills I’ve paid since  being in it coz I want that back as well, I’ll give them JF’s e-mail address. 😄


The wife was going away for a girly weekend.
I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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