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I’m a little concerned with events off the field at the moment. There were rumours of a potential consortium to take over at the end of the season, rumours that JF was on his way, all of which would be announced at the end of this current season. Another couple of rumours would suggest that JF wants too much money to walk and another saying he’s going nowhere!!
I have to say that my biggest concern is that there is a repeat of MJ not having the same vision and support as the board (like in his Swedish job) and moving on. I do still think there is a measure of uncertainty, though despite all this, I hope I’m wrong and Michael Jolley is the man at the helm next season.
I also hope that he is given a decent amount to build a team in League Two.
GTFC board - Please don’t f#^* this one up!!
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Of COURSE HE WILL.
You would have to be a monumental idiot not to appreciate what he has achieved here.
Remember this is the same team Slade could not do a thing right with.
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Why would he be planning for next season if he wasn’t going to be 🤔, the club gambled on this one and its the best gamble they will ever do to be honest, I can’t see the wanted to upset the supporter again, I bet they lost loads of money when Slade was here, Now we have upcoming with the quality he has with his tactics and everything else, lets hope his recuitment is just as good and who knows what could happen going to be massive improvement from this season, exciting times ahead for us!
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He's done well but he has never had the task of building a team before. He's still hugely unproven and too raw to be poached by other teams. He'd be mad to leave, no matter how badly he starts next season he's going to be given a.few months at very least. He's earned a pay rise though
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He left his last job because the board would not support him and his plans. Let's hope the same thing doesn't happen here.
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I hope J.F. realises the enormous debt he owes Jolley,he pulled his backside out of the fire .Had we gone down the Fenty name would be reviled forever in posterity. If Fenty is going to stay on ,then for God sake listen to Jolley and back him accordingly .
But then again this is John Fenty.
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MJ has a great opportunity to build a squad here. I don't even think it'll take loads of money. Hopefully, we'll learn that having an over-sized squad and a big wage bill isn't a pre-requisite for promotion or a good challenge, so I'm not going to be calling for JSF to get his chequebook out.
I'd rather see a few quality additions where MJ has people he really wants, retain those who've earned it and see if Max Wright can step up as Clifton has done.
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I dont think theres a consortium otherwise I'd have heard about it by now. Someone else did say there is something going behind the scenes. Im sure it will all come out in the end.
MJ aint going anywhere.....but i wish we have something similar to what Lincoln did with the cowleys. Its time we started to look after our club by means of compensation.
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Whatever your thoughts on JF, he does generally back managers with their requests. He just backs the wrong managers most of the time. Bignot and Slade must have wasted a fortune, but now we have the opportunity to clear the decks and do what we should have done 2 years ago. MJ will know exactly how much he has to work with, and will trim the squad accordingly.If he gets us playing like we have been recently, then crowds will definitely rise, and there will be more scope to add to the quality level. A long awaited good cup run would be nice too.
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Whatever your thoughts on JF, he does generally back managers with their requests. He just backs the wrong managers most of the time. Bignot and Slade must have wasted a fortune, but now we have the opportunity to clear the decks and do what we should have done 2 years ago. MJ will know exactly how much he has to work with, and will trim the squad accordingly.If he gets us playing like we have been recently, then crowds will definitely rise, and there will be more scope to add to the quality level. A long awaited good cup run would be nice too.
Agrred Ginny. Last good cup run was 89 v Wimbledon. We had one or 2 in the league cup but not the fa cup.
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Agrred Ginny. Last good cup run was 89 v Wimbledon. We had one or 2 in the league cup but not the fa cup.
97/98 wasn't bad...it just gets overlooked by other events that year! Beaten in fourth round by Leeds at Elland Rd.
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97/98 wasn't bad...it just gets overlooked by other events that year! Beaten in fourth round by Leeds at Elland Rd.
Was that when Tony Yeboah came on the scene?
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Whatever your thoughts on JF, he does generally back managers with their requests.
He has done in the past. Will he still now, seen as he openly admits he wants out, and everyone is telling him to intercourse off?
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97/98 wasn't bad...it just gets overlooked by other events that year! Beaten in fourth round by Leeds at Elland Rd.
13/14 was decent too (got through the same amount of rounds!). Beat 2 sides a division above us (including Scunthorpe) to reach round 3, where we pushed Huddersfield (3 divisions above us) all the way.
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Was that when Tony Yeboah came on the scene?
Think he'd gone by then. Hasselbaink scored though.
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Forgot about the Huddersfield game when robbins was in charge town deserved to win that.
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Whatever your thoughts on JF, he does generally back managers with their requests. He just backs the wrong managers most of the time. Bignot and Slade must have wasted a fortune, but now we have the opportunity to clear the decks and do what we should have done 2 years ago. MJ will know exactly how much he has to work with, and will trim the squad accordingly.If he gets us playing like we have been recently, then crowds will definitely rise, and there will be more scope to add to the quality level. A long awaited good cup run would be nice too.
A cup run Ginny. Blimey, I’d settle for cup win. 2 years back in the league and not one cup victory. Not even in the checkatwat trophy, even after penalties!! Let’s start at one and build from there!! UTFM
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Whatever your thoughts on JF, he does generally back managers with their requests. He just backs the wrong managers most of the time. Bignot and Slade must have wasted a fortune, but now we have the opportunity to clear the decks and do what we should have done 2 years ago. MJ will know exactly how much he has to work with, and will trim the squad accordingly.If he gets us playing like we have been recently, then crowds will definitely rise, and there will be more scope to add to the quality level. A long awaited good cup run would be nice too.
I think MJ will have something to work with but we would not be unlike many/most other league 2 clubs in that he'll have to balance the budget and trade to a degree rather than being a "kid in a sweet shop" like Bignot was in the Jan 17 window. The cup point is a really good one as historically like many clubs good runs or beating a big side has injected energy into GTFC both on and off the pitch. You see the impact this had on Lincoln last season and this season cup success brought everyone together at Rochdale for their great escape. Surely it's our turn to draw a giant in the 3rd round, get a draw at BP and then a big payday in a replay? If only...........
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Of COURSE HE WILL.
You would have to be a monumental idiot not to appreciate what he has achieved here.
Remember this is the same team Slade could not do a thing right with.
Of course we all appreciate what he has done, but I think the original poster was pointing out whether Jolley will move on because Fenty won't share his vision of the club, or back it with the right investment. If Jolley can rise above the antics of Fenty then great, but I share the worry that now that we are safe Fenty will start backtracking on some promises that would have been made when he was offered the job. Nothing would surprise me with Fenty, nothing.
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I think we will do a Newport next season, be more competitive throughout the season, and get Liverpool in the FA Cup or something.
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I don't think there's any doubt that MJ will be here next season. The bigger questions is.. If MJ is successful and another club of a stature like Shrewsbury comes in for him.. has GTFC the right environment, infrastructure and leadership to fend off their advances? Sadly the answer is no, and that answer needs addressing because any success we have will only ever be short-lived. You only have to look down the A46 to see that Lincoln are building something quite different and not relying solely on riding on the coat tails of the Cowleys. Over here, it seems like our board's big plan is to pin their hopes all on Jolley's shoulders and that will fix everything. Well, one day in the future Jolley will be gone and what will we be left with then? We cannot switch our attentions off the bigger picture because we're excited about Jolley, because in the grand scheme of things, we'll still be a club that will end up going nowhere. One good manager in ten may delay our descent to the depths and maybe punctuate it with a promotion, but eventually, if our club doesn't change, our final destination will just end up being the same..
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I certainly hope so.
I think Fenty has to move quickly to secure him on a long term contract. I think we have seen enough from the results and performances he has achieved with a squad we all though was totally useless, to indicate that he knows what he is doing.
The football against Notts County was the best I have seen for years at BP. Take a look at the highlights of the FGR game, see the flicks back heels and passing on show. It is unrecognisable from the hoofball we had to suffer from Slade.
Our most important signing of the summer would be Michael Jolley on a long contract.
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A long term contract will not be forthcoming, I asked John Fenty this question after Notts game and he stated that he doesn't see any issue with the 6 month rolling contract and would continue down this route...
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I would like to see what contact will be made from Jolley across to Burnley with them now being in Europe. Could we progress their up and comers? Likewise his Swedish connection - winter weather should be no problem but fees might be for better players from their leagues. Guessing he will know their lower leagues for rising stars to note down and pursue.
So, retained list first to look forward to, hopefully McKeown an early signing, perhaps a couple of paid up contracts or loans out, then the big rebuild !!
From talking to other fans and away family fans, there is a huge feelgood factor to work with !!
Chance with a good start and bigger crowd potential for the Chair to slowly regain his loan funds alongside player investment. Roll on August !!
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I don't think there's any doubt that MJ will be here next season. The bigger questions is.. If MJ is successful and another club of a stature like Shrewsbury comes in for him.. has GTFC the right environment, infrastructure and leadership to fend off their advances? Sadly the answer is no, and that answer needs addressing because any success we have will only ever be short-lived. You only have to look down the A46 to see that Lincoln are building something quite different and not relying solely on riding on the coat tails of the Cowleys. Over here, it seems like our board's big plan is to pin their hopes all on Jolley's shoulders and that will fix everything. Well, one day in the future Jolley will be gone and what will we be left with then? We cannot switch our attentions off the bigger picture because we're excited about Jolley, because in the grand scheme of things, we'll still be a club that will end up going nowhere. One good manager in ten may delay our descent to the depths and maybe punctuate it with a promotion, but eventually, if our club doesn't change, our final destination will just end up being the same..
They seem to be investing their windfall wisely, not just on players, but also securing the management team and they are planning to build a new training facility too. We just seem unable to progress things off the field.
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I don't think there's any doubt that MJ will be here next season. The bigger questions is.. If MJ is successful and another club of a stature like Shrewsbury comes in for him.. has GTFC the right environment, infrastructure and leadership to fend off their advances? Sadly the answer is no, and that answer needs addressing because any success we have will only ever be short-lived. You only have to look down the A46 to see that Lincoln are building something quite different and not relying solely on riding on the coat tails of the Cowleys. Over here, it seems like our board's big plan is to pin their hopes all on Jolley's shoulders and that will fix everything. Well, one day in the future Jolley will be gone and what will we be left with then? We cannot switch our attentions off the bigger picture because we're excited about Jolley, because in the grand scheme of things, we'll still be a club that will end up going nowhere. One good manager in ten may delay our descent to the depths and maybe punctuate it with a promotion, but eventually, if our club doesn't change, our final destination will just end up being the same..
It's always going to be like that though. The Cowleys will leave Lincoln for a bigger club done day, as will Jolley if he does well here. The board have made some poor appointments, some good ones and some potentially good ones that didn't work out. Hopefully they have learned the lessons from the poor ones (which generally have been people who worked here before, or were already here in some capacity). Avoid them and we're always going to get some good seasons.
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MJ will leave us but it will not before he gets us promoted,
He is an honest and open man who is pleased to be given this chance and to be here,
Don't forget he was and is the fans choice and he wants to do well for us and the board,
Fenty is his own worse enemy and always will be but up to Saturday he has kept from sprouting his usual rubbish and has been very quiet and invisible.
So John for the sake of everybody concerned go back into your shell and KEEP OFF THE PITCH !!
If fans are given banning orders for going onto the pitch then you should get one yourself seeing as FGR requested that nobody enters the field of play after the final whistle.
We should just be talking about how Michael has turned this club round not talking about Fenty again so lets all enjoy the summer watch England go out the world cup on pens and come back refreshed waiting to see what new team MJ has put together,
Onwards and upwards, up the mariners !!!!!!!
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It's always going to be like that though. The Cowleys will leave Lincoln for a bigger club done day, as will Jolley if he does well here.
The board have made some poor appointments, some good ones and some potentially good ones that didn't work out. Hopefully they have learned the lessons from the poor ones (which generally have been people who worked here before, or were already here in some capacity). Avoid them and we're always going to get some good seasons.
My point was nothing to do with good or bad managerial appointments Rob.. GTFC is one of the few clubs left that looks exactly as it did thirty years ago. If that doesn't change, our demise will be assured at some time in the future, just delayed by the odd decent managerial appointment. I'm as excited as anyone to see what Jolley can do next season, but if in ten years GTFC looks the same as it does now or thirty years back, whatever success Jolley has will be irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. If our fans take their eyes off the bigger picture because Jolley looks an exciting appointment, they will be as culpable as the board who do not seem to have any plan at all as to how the club is going to progress off the pitch.. Lincoln will have a new training complex by the start of the new season and a few other bits of infrastructure in place. We've done nothing and we can't just sit back as a club and say that we can't do anything because we haven't had an FA Cup run. We can't sit on our laurels and hope Jolley can paper over the massive cracks.. There's two elements of the club still in play. Onfield seems like it's going in a positive direction, but off field we are still stuck in the previous century. It shouldn't be a case of onfield's going well, let's forget about the other..
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It's going to be a long summer break constantly having to read comments like this.
There is no talk of a takeover except on this board. One poster posts it and it becomes fact. Then it becomes a stick to bash Fenty with.
Living within our means is called penny pinching on here. We don't have millions to spend so we don't spend it. Lincoln admitt that their new training facilities have been paid for by their cup runs. Had they not had them it wouldn't have been built. They made a tidy sum from the trophy that we boycotted.
As for player recruitment the board agree a playing budget and give it to the manager. He is the one that decides how it is spent, NOT the board. Every manager we've had under Fenty has gone on record to say that JF has backed them with money if they've asked for it. Jolley knows the financial situation and accepts it.
Roll on the new season when we can talk about football games again!
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I am sure I read that MJ left Eskilstuna because the board wanted to bring someone in above him in charge of signing players - a Director of Football in effect and that was his difference of opinion.
Fenty will never do that and I believe managers have a lot of responsibility at this club; something MJ strikes me as wanting.
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MJ will thrive in the transfer market, regardless of what he's given to work with, he's a clever chap, he's got an econ degree from Cambridge and worked in trading. Money management and understanding exactly what shelling a big proportion of your budget on one unproven player, or a group of so/so players. Jolley will, unlike the likes of Slade understand the mathematics behind sensible budget management which is certainly a good step in the right direction...
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