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He's off then wonder what Doig has got to say, or not.  


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That's how football works isn't it. Couldn't blame him for taking the next step up. Make the move up while your stock's high 'cos if they struggle to midtable next season he might not get opportunities like this again.


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Can't stand Ipswich Town - I have lived here 40 years this year and have only been inside Portman Road 4 times - 3 to see Town and once with the Willem II fans for a friendly, but I wouldn't wish Hurst on them.

If he does come (and its more possible now Mowbray has definitely ruled himself out) I might see him in the street and I can cup my ear at the little excrement so maybe not all bad


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Shrewsbury best hope Chris Doig isn't on media duty this weekend. If he is, they best hope he is unaware Ipswich are looking for a new manager.
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Ten year's time he'll be linked with the England job at this rate


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Hurst wouldn't talk to another club behind the back of his current employers, surely.  
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Can't stand Ipswich Town - I have lived here 40 years this year and have only been inside Portman Road 4 times - 3 to see Town and once with the Willem II fans for a friendly, but I wouldn't wish Hurst on them.

If he does come (and its more possible now Mowbray has definitely ruled himself out) I might see him in the street and I can cup my ear at the little excrement so maybe not all bad


I bet Ipswich are relieved as they are now firmly categorised with the rest of society  


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Has surprised me he has done so well


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Quoted from Ipswin
Can't stand Ipswich Town - I have lived here 40 years this year and have only been inside Portman Road 4 times - 3 to see Town and once with the Willem II fans for a friendly, but I wouldn't wish Hurst on them.

If he does come (and its more possible now Mowbray has definitely ruled himself out) I might see him in the street and I can cup my ear at the little excrement so maybe not all bad


As I'm sure they are eternally grateful that you grace their parish with your presence Swin. Maybe you ought to move to somewhere that would appreciate you....like Syria.
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As I'm sure they are eternally grateful that you grace their parish with your presence Swin. Maybe you ought to move to somewhere that would appreciate you....like Syria.


Swin in Syria: Call this a war! flipping shambles. It's been going 7 years and you still haven't beaten this bunch of lunatics. Even that little twit Hurst would have won by now. Now I know I said with the Russians help the government would never retake the Damascus suburbs, and they've gone and done it granted, I was wrong, but who's to say Assad wouldn't have done it on his own?


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Good luck to him, he's performed a minor miracle at Shrewsbury. Nobody owes anybody anything in modern football, if the Shrews lost their first three games next season they'd be calling for his head.
Make hay while the sun shines or something like that!!
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Swin in Syria: Call this a war! flipping shambles. It's been going 7 years and you still haven't beaten this bunch of lunatics. Even that little twit Hurst would have won by now. Now I know I said with the Russians help the government would never retake the Damascus suburbs, and they've gone and done it granted, I was wrong, but who's to say Assad wouldn't have done it on his own?


Swin could easily start a War he would make a fantastic addition to our diplomatic core
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Good luck to him, he's performed a minor miracle at Shrewsbury. Nobody owes anybody anything in modern football, if the Shrews lost their first three games next season they'd be calling for his head.
Make hay while the sun shines or something like that!!


If they lose in the playoffs there may be  calls for his head anyway. Plenty of Shrews fans think they could have got an automatic place if he had carried on with the style they showed earlier in the season when they were top of the league, but he did his usual,  aimed low and the results petered out.

Ipswich would probably be a good club for him in one way, they are very tolerant of bland football and lack of success and keep their managers a long time as a rule.

I think he will go to Ipswich (or somewhere) regardless of the playoffs because he has to move, the only way for him at Shrewsbury now is down and he is very good at marketing himself as a manager who does not fail.



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he is very good at marketing himself as a manager who does not fail.



Well yes, by not failing.
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If they lose in the playoffs there may be  calls for his head anyway. Plenty of Shrews fans think they could have got an automatic place if he had carried on with the style they showed earlier in the season when they were top of the league, but he did his usual,  aimed low and the results petered out.

Ipswich would probably be a good club for him in one way, they are very tolerant of bland football and lack of success and keep their managers a long time as a rule.

I think he will go to Ipswich (or somewhere) regardless of the playoffs because he has to move, the only way for him at Shrewsbury now is down and he is very good at marketing himself as a manager who does not fail.



I can see they would be disappointed but highly doubt given a Wembley failing (he was good at them) already and a chance at going up they would want him out?
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Swin could easily start a War he would make a fantastic addition to our diplomatic core


I'd soon end the illegitimate Press the button and wipe out every fornicator Assad supporters, the Russians, the Yanks, ISIS, the Assad opposition

Oh and its 'corp' not 'core' BTW



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perhaps Hurst has learnt from Slade lose in the playoffs/final,   so your old club is not in the same division as your new one.  
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Think a lack of depth probably caught up with Shrewsbury in the end but he's still done a remarkable job and somebody will be having him soon. Given their position when he took over it seems staggering that any Shrewsbury fans are even close to moaning
Still think the Cowley boys will be rocking up at Portman Road in early June. They're local, ambitious and I would imagine their stock is as high as any other managers in leagues one or two
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I think the problem with Hurst, as far as fans are concerned, is that he is a bit dour and one dimensional, and so are his teams. Chairmen like him because he's a safe pair of hands and will have teams winning more than they lose. The fans will like it at first because of these same reasons, but eventually, the novelty starts to wear off and he never surprises. In snooker parlance (topical eh!), he's a Peter Ebdon, when the fans crave a Ronnie O'Sullivan.
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Well yes, by not failing.


True, no relegations. As a manager on his own he has had just the one success and that was more by good luck than judgement in many eyes. We shall see what happens this time. Perhaps he has learned.



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I think the problem with Hurst, as far as fans are concerned, is that he is a bit dour and one dimensional, and so are his teams.


That was the problem with McCarthy as far as the fans were concerned leading to some of the smallest attendances ever and normally easy going middle of the road Suffolk boys calling for him to go.

I doubt the Cowleys will come but it may depend on the playoffs, if they take Lincoln up then they would surely be tempted to stay.

Personally I think Chris Coleman is the best available now Mowbray has said no



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That was the problem with McCarthy as far as the fans were concerned leading to some of the smallest attendances ever and normally easy going middle of the road Suffolk boys calling for him to go.

I doubt the Cowleys will come but it may depend on the playoffs, if they take Lincoln up then they would surely be tempted to stay.


Personally I think Chris Coleman is the best available now Mowbray has said no



Lincoln aren't assured the play off's yet are they ?


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True, no relegations. As a manager on his own he has had just the one success and that was more by good luck than judgement in many eyes. We shall see what happens this time. Perhaps he has learned.



When you look at his win rate though, it really is exceptional (albeit with teams lower down the leagues).

Paul Hursts worst is better than Russel Slades best.


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Lincoln aren't assured the play off's yet are they ?


No, that's why I said it depends on the playoffs.



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When you look at his win rate though, it really is exceptional (albeit with teams lower down the leagues).

Paul Hursts worst is better than Russel Slades best.


Daft as it seems, if he had been more successful his win rate would certainly be lower. It took him so many seasons in the Conference with a side that ought to have been promoted at least 2 seasons earlier so was bound to win a lot more than he lost. It gives him credit in the bank. It isn’t about the league the club is in, it’s about the position of the club in that league, budget and so on. Slade never has managed a club in the top 5 sort of position Town were in under Hurst..


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As a manager on his own he has had just the one success
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I think saving the Shrews from relegation last year was a major success, as is securing third place this season. Surely it's all relative to resources and expectation?
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Think a lack of depth probably caught up with Shrewsbury in the end but he's still done a remarkable job and somebody will be having him soon. Given their position when he took over it seems staggering that any Shrewsbury fans are even close to moaning
Still think the Cowley boys will be rocking up at Portman Road in early June. They're local, ambitious and I would imagine their stock is as high as any other managers in leagues one or two

Yep, agree with you on the Shrews squad lacking depth. Seems mad that the Salop fans are criticising Hurst for not getting them an auto spot when you look at their squad/starting line-up. What I find interesting is that we were often lambasted by other Non-league fans for not being 100% enthused with Hurst for failing to go beyond his remit and getting us the Confenrence title...and now it's happening at Shrewsbury. I've always thought that Hurst's time at Shrewsbury will be best judged on what happens when the chips are down and the honeymoon period with the fans ends. Has he learnt to accept even an iota of responsibility or is it still the players'/fans'/ref's fault and definitely NOT Paul Hurst's?  He's done tremendously well to stave off the end of this honeymoon period until the very end of the season to the point that I think he will end up taking another job and we probably won't actually see any kind of breakdown between him and the Shrews fans. His answers regarding the Ipswich job won't fill Salop with any confidence, but I could actually see him going to Barnsley as well. I think the Portuguese guy they got in is only there until the end of the season.

Unfortunately, I can't see the Cowleys going anywhere this summer. They signed new deals at Lincoln this week, I think? Also just moved to Lincoln apparently and they're getting a new £1.5M training facility.
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The Cowleys have just extended their contracts until 2022 and are moving their families into new houses up here in July. The kids are going to school here so I doubt they will be doing all that to upsticks to Ipswich or anywhere else in the forseable future.
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The Cowleys have just extended their contracts until 2022 and are moving their families into new houses up here in July. The kids are going to school here so I doubt they will be doing all that to upsticks to Ipswich or anywhere else in the forseable future.


To be honest contracts mean sod all these days. It just gives the current club more bargaining power for compensation if a bigger club comes calling.


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I was always on the fence while Hurst was here,

Then when I decided he would never get us up he did, :

Like him or not he has done a great job turning Shrewsbury into a winning side,

If he goes to Ipswich he will be given time to build a side which he does do well,

Whether the fans will take to him is another thing.

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Quoted from buckstown
As a manager on his own he has had just the one success
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I think saving the Shrews from relegation last year was a major success, as is securing third place this season. Surely it's all relative to resources and expectation?


Definitely relative but in football management terms a success is a trophy and/or a promotion. Saving the Shrews was not a problem, it was a win/win. Do it and he’s a hero, fail and it was the fault of the previous manager.

I agree with Pete about Ipswich to a degree. They could give him time to build but on the other hand maybe they are fed up of the Steady Eddie Yorkie approach now after McCarthy.


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How shrews fans can even contemplate criticising Hurst is a mystery. Saved them from relegation, and gets them to the top end of the table.  And I though we were spoilt
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To be honest contracts mean sod all these days. It just gives the current club more bargaining power for compensation if a bigger club comes calling.


Of course, not saying they will be here another 4 years but it's going to cost anyone mega money in compensation if they go before.
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I'd soon end the illegitimate Press the button and wipe out every fornicator Assad supporters, the Russians, the Yanks, ISIS, the Assad opposition

Oh and its 'corp' not 'core' BTW



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Definitely relative but in football management terms a success is a trophy and/or a promotion. Saving the Shrews was not a problem, it was a win/win. Do it and he’s a hero, fail and it was the fault of the previous manager.

I agree with Pete about Ipswich to a degree. They could give him time to build but on the other hand maybe they are fed up of the Steady Eddie Yorkie approach now after McCarthy.


But he did save them and he's then taken them to third in League 1 behind two recent Premier League teams with far bigger budgets. I get you don't like him and I get that some found him dour and the football could be pretty pragmatic and safe. However, to claim he's not succeeding at Shrewsbury is just ridiculous. Michael Jolley has succeeded at Town in the last few weeks but he's not got a trophy or a promotion. Has Sean Dyche not been successful at Burnley this season?

I'm not convinced Shrewsbury fans wanting him sacked isn't a figment of your imagination but if it isn't then they're flipping idiots.
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Of course, not saying they will be here another 4 years but it's going to cost anyone mega money in compensation if they go before.


There is no chance of the Cowley’s going to Ipswich, they would not be popular as Ipswich fans like to see the ball played on the ground, not hoofed up to the fat tw@t.


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Ex Ipswich player and manager George Burley has applied there is a huge back  page spread in the local rag today how he desperately wants to come back and how he would have Terry Butcher as his No 2.

The fans will want it don't know about the owner tho'. Burley has been out of football since he was sacked by Apollon Limassol after two games in 2012

Same page has an article about Hurst and his 'I cant promise I'll be here next season' statement


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Ex Ipswich player and manager George Burley has applied there is a huge back  page spread in the local rag today how he desperately wants to come back and how he would have Terry Butcher as his No 2.

The fans will want it don't know about the owner tho'. Burley has been out of football since he was sacked by Apollon Limassol after two games in 2012

Same page has an article about Hurst and his 'I cant promise I'll be here next season' statement


A bit like Alan Buckley coming back for the 4th time Swin  


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But he did save them and he's then taken them to third in League 1 behind two recent Premier League teams with far bigger budgets. I get you don't like him and I get that some found him dour and the football could be pretty pragmatic and safe. However, to claim he's not succeeding at Shrewsbury is just ridiculous. Michael Jolley has succeeded at Town in the last few weeks but he's not got a trophy or a promotion. Has Sean Dyche not been successful at Burnley this season?

I'm not convinced Shrewsbury fans wanting him sacked isn't a figment of your imagination but if it isn't then they're flipping idiots.


Don’t be daft Rodders, it is no figment. You know as well as I do how fickle fans are. Those who thought he was the messiah before Christmas when they were league toppers are just as likely to turn on him if they lose in the playoffs. That’s football. The critical posts are on the Shrewsbury forum if you care to read them. Would not take much to change opinions especially if he says the wrong thing about staying or going. It is not a case of liking or disliking him. The eulogising over Jolley may  be deserved today, he could be said to have saved us, but in January a bad run and some dodgy signings would change the Fishy posts overnight.

As for Dyche - he got Burnley an auto promotion place so of course he is a success there in anyone’s book.


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Don’t be daft Rodders, it is no figment. You know as well as I do how fickle fans are. Those who thought he was the messiah before Christmas when they were league toppers are just as likely to turn on him if they lose in the playoffs. That’s football. The critical posts are on the Shrewsbury forum if you care to read them. Would not take much to change opinions especially if he says the wrong thing about staying or going. It is not a case of liking or disliking him. The eulogising over Jolley may  be deserved today, he could be said to have saved us, but in January a bad run and some dodgy signings would change the Fishy posts overnight.

As for Dyche - he got Burnley an auto promotion place so of course he is a success there in anyone’s book.


I've just been on their forum and they're all worried about losing him. Talk of when did they last have such a universally popular manger:

http://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/97068/more-interest-hurst
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A bit like Alan Buckley coming back for the 4th time Swin  


Bloody hell Pete I wouldn't wish that even on the Tractor Boys !



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The St Mirren bloke is now favourite although Hurst is still in the frame apparently


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Say Shrewsbury don't go up, and next season they're 13th in November... I reckon a few Shrews fans will be wanting change.

Yet had you given them 13th this season after scraping survival the season before, they'd have bitten your hand off.

Football is all about momentum, and where you've come from/going to.

Finishing 3rd in League 1 will have adjusted most of their fans' expectations and so the pressure will be on to repeat it - or go one better - next season, to prove it's no fluke.

Deep down Hurst may feel like it's best if he leaves while his stock is high. Mind you, he kept delivering at Grimsby season after season, getting us in contention for play-offs & promotion while under immense pressure to do so.

I think his next move will be very interesting. After all the nice stuff he said about them when he left us, it'd be a bit odd to then dump that for something else. I didn't have him down as someone who jumps ship easily.


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Double page spread today in the local rag - lots of references to Grimsby and a photo of Toto.

Reckon it depends on whether Shrews go up or not. If they don't I can see him jumping ship (again) but another article says the St Mirren bloke is actively talking to Ipswich

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town-five-point-plan-and-shrewsbury-boss-paul-hurst-1-5517483


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The way they describe McCarthy and his defensive style, where 'every point is a prisoner', could be describing Hurst to a tee. If the fans are not happy with the style they have now, i can't see it changing much under Hurst.
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Hasn't Hurst followed up every promotion he has had with a new job the following season?


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The way they describe McCarthy and his defensive style, where 'every point is a prisoner', could be describing Hurst to a tee. If the fans are not happy with the style they have now, i can't see it changing much under Hurst.


The fans wanted the bloke from Venlo but who they want now I don't know, doubt they would think much Hurst's style tho'

Great photo of Toto in the mask



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The fans wanted the bloke from Venlo but who they want now I don't know, doubt they would think much Hurst's style tho'

Great photo of Toto in the mask



I see what you tried to do there Swin.


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Wherever Hurst is next season nothing will be published until after Shrewsbury have played their playoff slalom, all parties involved will have agreed to keep things quiet.
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Hurst voted as the League 1 Manager of the year from Sky Sports News this morning !
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Hasn't Hurst followed up every promotion he has had with a new job the following season?


The following season is always harder. You have to prove it wasn’t a fluke.  Ask Ranieri.


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They are now looking at Simon Grayson apparently


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