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GrimRob
April 29, 2018, 9:58pm

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In all the years I have been doing the Fishy (nearly 20 now) I can't remember a manager who the fans collectively were more behind. Buckley was reviled by sections of the supporters, as was Hurst and Slade in his first spell. In the years before that when it was harder to gauge opinion maybe Buckley in the early years and perhaps Laws in the first few months, but that's about it. I am not old enough to remember Lawrie Macc.

Having said that by Xmas sections of the Fishy might have turned against him!


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In all the years I have been doing the Fishy (nearly 20 now) I can't remember a manager who the fans collectively were more behind. Buckley was reviled by sections of the supporters, as was Hurst and Slade in his first spell. In the years before that when it was harder to gauge opinion maybe Buckley in the early years and perhaps Laws in the first few months, but that's about it. I am not old enough to remember Lawrie Macc.

Having said that by Xmas sections of the Fishy might have turned against him!


I think we are behind them all at the start! Mike Newell is the obvious one for me - the reception he got at Scunthorpe when he was appointed,  in some minor cup game was astonishing really.

Lawrie Mac came in when we were in a shocking position - the bottom end of the 4th division the season before he came, and the club and the town were crying out for a messiah. This could have a similar feel to it - Jolley knows that the fans need to be on side, he knows we have underachieved for years and is a good bet to turn around.  
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To put what this team has done under Jolley into context, we have accrued 14 points from nine games, just over 1.5 points per game. If that is sustained over a full season, that makes 72 points to the nearest whole number and puts you right in contention for the playoffs in most years. I don't want to get too excited about next season, as we've fallen flat on our faces too many times for that, but it's hard not to when you look at it like that.
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It’s actually 12 from 9.


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And anyway, 1.5 points per game over 46 games is 69 points surely?
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Well i doubt he could do any worse than the last manager, so the only way is up, even if that means comfortable mid table and some notable wins along the way. I have a sneaky feeling though, that this guy is extremely ambitious and driven and knows how to handle players mentality. There isn't much in this league between the teams. The ones who apply themselves correctly and with purpose rise to the top. Accrington aside, who have been the best side in the league all season, the rest haven't impressed me much at all. None of them looked as good as Donny or Portsmouth did last season. Even Luton, who scored a ton of goals didn't look that threatening when they won here. If we had this exact same squad next season, i bet Jolley would get them up nearer the top end.
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Well i doubt he could do any worse than the last manager, so the only way is up, even if that means comfortable mid table and some notable wins along the way. I have a sneaky feeling though, that this guy is extremely ambitious and driven and knows how to handle players mentality. There isn't much in this league between the teams. The ones who apply themselves correctly and with purpose rise to the top. Accrington aside, who have been the best side in the league all season, the rest haven't impressed me much at all. None of them looked as good as Donny or Portsmouth did last season. Even Luton, who scored a ton of goals didn't look that threatening when they won here. If we had this exact same squad next season, i bet Jolley would get them up nearer the top end.


Got to say that we did look very good on Saturday. Better than a side going for automatic promotion.

So, two months ago I couldn't wait for a mass summer clear out of players, I now wouldn't mind several of them staying,

I do think we need a decent striker and a midfield general though, and some of our aging defenders will need replacing. But I think it will be easier to bring in a few new faces to build on what we have rather than undertake a full scale replacement of the entire playing staff.  
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I was thinking the same thing today Pete. I would love to know if MJ has won you over now Swin or are you still not convinced?


I am still far from convinced in fact the ridiculous surge of hero worship currently directed at him simply for avoiding relegation (which Slade might have achieved anyway - we will never know) does nothing to persuade me and how the players had the bare faced cheek  after the crap they dished up during the season to go on a lap of honour carrying their kids like they had actually won summat I'll never know

However we did avoid relegation under Jolley and as promised I have feasted on humble pie as promised since Saturday, He was the man to take us to safety and I was wrong but it will take more than scraping a few points together courtesy mainly of three penalties at the bottom-end of the season for me to elevate him to Godlike status and start licking his bottom like many on here



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I am still far from convinced in fact the ridiculous surge of hero worship currently directed at him simply for avoiding relegation (which Slade might have achieved anyway - we will never know) does nothing to persuade me and how the players had the bare faced cheek  after the crap they dished up during the season to go on a lap of honour carrying their kids like they had actually won summat I'll never know

However we did avoid relegation under Jolley and as promised I have feasted on humble pie as promised since Saturday, He was the man to take us to safety and I was wrong but it will take more than scraping a few points together courtesy mainly of three penalties at the bottom-end of the season for me to elevate him to Godlike status and start licking his bottom like many on here



Nice one Swin - that didn't hurt but I think that Humble Pie is giving you a bit of indigestion  
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I am still far from convinced in fact the ridiculous surge of hero worship currently directed at him simply for avoiding relegation (which Slade might have achieved anyway - we will never know) does nothing to persuade me and how the players had the bare faced cheek  after the crap they dished up during the season to go on a lap of honour carrying their kids like they had actually won summat I'll never know

However we did avoid relegation under Jolley and as promised I have feasted on humble pie as promised since Saturday, He was the man to take us to safety and I was wrong but it will take more than scraping a few points together courtesy mainly of three penalties at the bottom-end of the season for me to elevate him to Godlike status and start licking his bottom like many on here



To be honest I wasn't sure we had made the right decision in appointing a certain Mr. Jolley. I thought the situation might need a Martin Allen type to galvanise our under achieving players by giving them a rocket up the a***e.

However, now that we are safe, it is undeniable that he has the wow factor which will be great for next season and beyond.

As long as the club support him properly the future on the field should be much brighter.
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