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Want to believe and I'm starting to believe but I'm just going to be quietly optimistic. I remember being in this exact same position what, 8 years ago and thinking Newell would get us promoted after keeping us up and look how that ended.
Do think Jolley could be the best managerial choice yet and looking at Swindon, a much better choice than Phil Brown. He just seems to show the professionalism, class and knowledge that we've lacked, even during the Hurst years (I know some idiot put up the Hurst out banners after Braintree but who the intercourse taunts the fans after a Wembley final win!). And that's coming from a Hurst fan so hopefully, onwards and upwards!
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I just hope that the fans don’t put too much expectation on his shoulders, I’m already hearing of play offs and promotion being mentioned for next season and whilst I’m all for being ambitious, I just hope those same fans don’t get on his back if things don’t start as well as they expect.
He’s got a proper rebuild job on his hands this summer, he’s already mentioned that he needs to assess the season as a whole and not just the last month or so, which suggests to me that there’s going to be a high player turnover during the next few months. We could see a completely new lineup in August.
Whatever happens this summer, I’d like to see Jolley given time by the fans as well as the board. If we end up mid table this time next year then we should take it as progress and go again the following season. Let’s have a 2 or 3 year plan of promotion rather than expecting to soon.
Trust him, support him, show patience and maybe things may come good!
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I just hope that the fans don’t put too much expectation on his shoulders, I’m already hearing of play offs and promotion being mentioned for next season and whilst I’m all for being ambitious, I just hope those same fans don’t get on his back if things don’t start as well as they expect.
He’s got a proper rebuild job on his hands this summer, he’s already mentioned that he needs to assess the season as a whole and not just the last month or so, which suggests to me that there’s going to be a high player turnover during the next few months. We could see a completely new lineup in August.
Whatever happens this summer, I’d like to see Jolley given time by the fans as well as the board. If we end up mid table this time next year then we should take it as progress and go again the following season. Let’s have a 2 or 3 year plan of promotion rather than expecting to soon.
Trust him, support him, show patience and maybe things may come good!
UTM
Of course Jolley should have the fans' support, but we are talking about Division Four here. If spent and managed wisely, the club has a big enough income to warrant a push for at least the play offs. The top seven are involved in promotion to League One, that's a third of the whole division. And as for a large squad turnover in the summer, League Two is a division full of clubs running on one year contracts for players, nearly all of them will have a high turnover during the transfer window. The last thing GTFC needs at the minute is a trail of excuses as to why we can't compete at the right end of the bottom division in the Football League and fans accepting a mid-table finish is progress. Anyone seroiusly think the sides that are in the play offs this season are that good anyway?
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Watching that again has brought tears to my eyes! What a class act he is.
The scenes where he was mobbed after the final whistle were extraordinary. Never seen anything like it. There is more love and respect for this man than Hurst got in five years. Because he gets it. He understands what this club means to the fans.
The future is bright. Get him signed up on a long contract now!
Shall we start another operation promotion to give him extra funding?
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If presenting us with Michael Jolley turns out to be Fenty's last act for this club, then he can leave on a high.
Whether it was a masterstroke or just good fortune doesn't really matter - at least he didn't pander to those clamouring for an 'experienced' manager...such as Phil Brown for example, who has presided over Swindon being 20th in the current form table, whereas Jolley's Grimsby are 4th.
I think that says it all and finally puts that silly argument to bed.
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If presenting us with Michael Jolley turns out to be Fenty's last act for this club, then he can leave on a high.
Whether it was a masterstroke or just good fortune doesn't really matter - at least he didn't pander to those clamouring for an 'experienced' manager...such as Phil Brown for example, who has presided over Swindon being 20th in the current form table, whereas Jolley's Grimsby are 4th.
I think that says it all and finally puts that silly argument to bed.
Wasn't Brown offered the job though?
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Wasn't Brown offered the job though?
Based on what evidence?
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I don't think we have to keep banging this Fenty out drum, for one THERE IS NOBODY WHO'S COMING IN TO TAKE HIS PLACE TO THEN WHERE STUCK WITH FENTY.
I understand fan frustration especially with the PR in the club has been toxic this season, but Fenty his keeping his head down for the moment.
Lets just take stock on the fact where safe and playing League 2 next season.
Move on and upwards with Jolley and hopfully we can get some signings in early, Slade left it way to late last summer.
John wants out and there are people with sufficient clout formulating an approach. It will be interesting to see wether John is serious about stepping down?
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I don't think we have to keep banging this Fenty out drum, for one THERE IS NOBODY WHO'S COMING IN TO TAKE HIS PLACE TO THEN WHERE STUCK WITH FENTY.
I understand fan frustration especially with the PR in the club has been toxic this season, but Fenty his keeping his head down for the moment.
Lets just take stock on the fact where safe and playing League 2 next season.
Move on and upwards with Jolley and hopfully we can get some signings in early, Slade left it way to late last summer.
We have to be pragmatic about these things. A lot, probably the majority want a new start, a new era and a new man at the top so it cannot be ignored. I am sure none of us have got anything against John Fenty personally, I guess only a handful of us know him, but we are demanding change and change we should get. We (the fans) are the lifeblood of the club, Fenty is merely the present owner. We have been patient, extraordinarily patient, and we now have a golden chance to move into a new more successful era. The pragmatism comes in the form of what Fenty does about it. I don't suppose any of us are too worried about who owns the club, including Fenty if it meant a root and branch overall of how the club operates; its relationship with the fans, improvements to the stadium, success on the field so if Fenty feels he can provide those things then he should address the fans and tell us so. Personally I think a fresh start with new owners would be the best option, because I don't think (judging on the 15 years so far) that he has it in him. I don't think your post goes anywhere near enough to put right the wrongs of the last 15 years.Michael Jolley cannot do it all on his own (although jokingly I wonder if he might become the first chairman/manager/PR manager in the league!) but for him to succeed we need new investment, improvements on and off the pitch and finally a real attempt to bring GTFC kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Who does it I don't really care, but we cannot sit back and hope Jolley can produce miracles - the club needs to get right behind him with everything he needs, increased playing budgets, improvements to BP, better PR, better facilities for players. If Fenty and his team can do it then great. If they can't or wont it is not an option for him to sit back and hope things improve as the fans demand more, much more. If you are right and there is no one, anywhere ever that will come forward with a fresh prospectus for GTFC and the finance to go with it, then why shouldn't the current board grasp the nettle, get some paid professionals in to run the club and together Jolley and the fans make us a force to be reckoned with? What has he got to lose? Good people repay their salaries many times over and if their brief is to get more bums on seats and secure extra investment from wherever it may be it would be money well spent. A lot of season ticket holders like myself will be keeping their hands firmly in their pockets until we see quality players signing and not last minute signings to save a few weeks wages, and a willingness to start to tackle the long standing problems and visible proof that they are doing something about them.
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